He Bit!! And I never thought he would

real talk.

 

I understand what your saying completely,but in my opinion it would take a hell of a lot to make a good dog turn or snap and growl at someone.They should have a good enough temperment to take what ever and still not turn.And in my opinion ( which is worth as much as you're paying for it) a dog that shows its teeth and its hair stands up on its back is worse than one that snaps in certain situations.Its like the dogs is threatening a person.If I had a great dog and grew up with him and he slept at the foot of my bed and was my bestfriend,and he bit someone or growled at me,I'd put him in the ground.I'm here to help this breed and continue doing what has made them so great.I'm also trying to help people help themselves and not fuel the BSL and make this breed look worse.This dog is a perfect example of why they are banning these dogs everywhere.Whether its partialy the owners fault or not a better dog wouldn't have snapped.


Respectfuly,
Zac

 

Okeedokee- since this dog has been invited to act like a two year old human, you have to readjust your thinking completely. On this site it's a simple solution normally (and as it should be IMO) when a dog exhibits this kind of behavior- but as a pet owner you have complicated things via spoiling the doo doo out of him, so now you have to analyze what you have created. Now it's more complicated (unfortunately)- for both you and the dog.

You have absolutely no idea what this dog does or does not get along with until he is at least 2, even then you can never be 100% positive as it goes against the breed to play nicey nicey with other animals...it never ceases to amaze me when I read one of those damn stories about a juvenile petbull who just went postal on the neighbors' poodle and the owners say "He's never done that before!". Of course he hasn't...he was just a friggin puppy!

At any rate-some petbulls seem to be at a disadvantage now because of wishy washy handling and spoiling and lack of owner knowledge, the result being unstable animals who bite boyfriends, etc. These dogs work and obey best- even the pets (especially the pets?).

Don't complicate this dog anymore- demand respect, treat 'em like his mama would. If that doesn't work (in short order with the help of someone who really knows this breed), then a one way ticket to the vet is the only option.

 

Nice language you been dropping on the board here Rockstar. I hope all the admins take notice of the direction you wish the language to turn to.

Malachi, send the dog to Rockstar. Rockstar seems to be the only one qualified to handle your man biter properly. The rest of the people have no experience with dogs whatsoever, so get a crate and ship it. They have never seen a man biter before. They have never known anyone that has owned a dangerous dog before. The rest of us are too macho and ignorant to give their opinion properly on the subject because the lack of our experience. YAY!!!! Rockstar wins!!

Ferk out

 

With all due respect, Rockstar made some excellent posts in this thread.....as did others....
The bottom line here is that the OP posted a problem. A serious problem. It's up to the OP if he/she wants to take the advice given or not.....

I do want to tell the OP one more thing, though. Either you make drastic changes now, or your dog will end up in the newspapers, and it will be your fault.

 

lmao...this maybe be so true,,, and yet it may not ,,, it was funny one way or the other

 

You realy dont need a APBT to kill the neighbors poodle. Most poodles were killed by German sheepherds. Nevertheless, the difference is if an APBT kills a poodle you find it on every newspaper-cover. But they do it so seldom....

 

Well said Zac.

Ferk out

 

?! LOL...Just making up an example...perhaps I should have said rogue bunny wabbit?:p

Just making the point that whenever a petbull runs amock the owner always says "I never thought he could/would" or "He's never done that before".

Didn't mean to steal the German Shepherd's thunder. They can have the poodles.

 

Never said anything about "the rest" of you. No doubt there are people here more experienced than myself, or who can handle a dog better, or what have you. There are plenty of you here that I have respect for, regardless of experience. In fact, some of the finest people I've ever met are members of Game-dog. Ya gotta admit though, this site definitely has more than its share of jucking ferks.

err...Rock out:rolleyes:


I do apologize for my language though. I'll try to set a better example.

 

Malachi, please take it seriously that you have caused this, and will continue to cause more if you do not educate yourself big time and change how you interact with this dog.
Also, please take it seriously that you have a dangerous dog, and take the proper precautions to make sure that your dangerous dog is kept safe. Strangers in the street and pet stores are NOT guinea pigs to 'test' your dog out on. Your dog needs socialization yes, but make damn sure you learn proper safe ways to do this.
IMO, I beleive the dog should be culled. Not to say the dog cannot be saved, he's a puppy with an attitute problem created by an unknowledgable owner. There are just too many 'pit bulls' out there needing homes to be trying to save every one with problems. I had a dog put down about 8 months ago for human aggression, very very sad decision, but it had to be made. With this being said, I think we all know you will not do this, so PLEASE contact a behaviourist who knows what they are doing, check references and follow what they say.
Nomatter how strict you apply NILF, that alone is not going to fix your dog. You need to read a LOT more than a one page internet article. There are many good books out there, and I would suggest you start learning about pack structute, because this is the root of your problem. Cesar Millan's book does a good job explaining pack structure, you don't need to agree with his tv show methods to gain knowledge from his book.
In addition to NILF, I would also suggest your dog going on a strict crating schedule, all fun comes from you. When your boyfriend is home, he takes care of the dog. When you or him are not directly supervising your dog, he is in his crate. I would leave a 6 or 10 foot cotton line on him at all times while he is out of the crate, so if your dog tries the same stunt again, you can get control without getting bit. You really do need to get serious, this is NOT something to shrug off as it WILL get worse if you keep the same attitude you have been showing towards this issue.
Please, be responsible, mature and keep an open mind. You very well could cause the next bsl problem, so please think of the future of our breed and the safety of your dog. Would you rather be proactive and get serious and do something about this NOW or wait until disaster strikes, someone is hurt and your dog is ordered to be destroyed? Please, think about this.

 

Yes you are absolute right. Its always dumb if two dogs fight and one owner said: He has never done that before.To fight is absolutely normal and natural. All dogs feel sooner or later desire to fight completely no matter to which race they belong . From the race is merely dependent how much skill and perseverance are in the battle . There are of course exceptions as for example cold Pitdogs, however, actually one must always calculate that every dog sooner or later will fight. This also counts for APBTs ... and the problem is they are the most effective fighters . Seriously if somebody does not understand why dogs feel the wish to fight he shouldnt buy a dog .... also no APBT.

 

now i am going to give my 2 cents on everything concerning rockstar.you asked is he a dogman well from what i have read from him and heard from others yes he his.there is no doubt in my mind that this man knows dogs.now do we see eye to eye on everything hell no but i will be the first to say that he does know quite a bit about the breed.we have had a very heated discussion when it comes to man biters but he knows my stance and i know his he is a little more forgiving than i am but if i would be comfortable with letting any person give a man biter a second chance it would be this fella.now i have allready made my statement about what i think should be done with this dog so i am not going to go into that any more.but one thing i am going to add is if your going to try and discredit or talk down to this man your just going to look like a idiot because yes in my opinion he is a dogman and if you listen up and quit with the smart remarks you just might learn a thing or two from him.<LABEL for=rb_iconid_12></LABEL>
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Originally Posted by zacdaddy77
If I had a great dog and grew up with him and he slept at the foot of my bed and was my bestfriend,and he bit someone or growled at me,I'd put him in the ground.

zac and ferk if either of you had a dog that WAS your best friend and you let him sleep at the foot of your bed, you have just humanized the dog as much as the original poster has. BTW what do you mean by a "good" dog? Is a good dog a dog that only answers to one master, or one that bows to all humans? One that will act in a protective manner or one that is human passive no matter what? One that is overflowing with drive or one that is mellow? I contend the "goodness" of the dog is how an individual trains it for what ever purpose the human desires...your goodness may be my evil.

You are either the Pack Leader or your not, friendship has nothing to do with it, the dog sees you as a fair leader or not, canines don't make FRIENDS, they follow or they lead.

Perhaps you should reevaluate your own words before advocating such a final solution for a situation you know very little about (the OP).

As for Rockstar, probably the best thing for that dog would be a re-hab with the Rock.......and if you don't know this you are new and ill informed so I will look past your arrogance. If you really want to learn something useful about these dogs, make sure you read ALL of Rockstars posts...I would even save some, they can do nothing but help the two of you.

 

Malachi - I am saddened to hear about your story & I know you do not want to put your dog down, but please do give it some serious consideration. I know many here know this story, but I shall share it again for your sake. perhaps you can learn from it.

When my husband & I were new in the breed we got 2 littermate pitties, a boy & a girl. The boy was my dog & the girl was his. Anyway, at the age of 4 mos the girl pup, Pasha, tried to bite my husband after he made her do something she didn't want to do (sound familiar?).

I told him right then she needed to be culled, but he refused, saying that was his baby & we could get a handle on her w/ training. (again, sound familiar?)

Well, months turned into weeks & weeks into years. Both Pasha & her brother lived in the house, were obedience trained, lived under the NILIF method & were generally well kept pets. And we had little problem out of her. She'd give my husband little challenges from time to time, but we always nipped her issues in the bud.

Or so we thought.

At the age of 2, Pasha was asleep next to the door on her bed. I opened the door to let a dog out & she jumped up from her bed & bit the hell out of me. We thought it was a defensive snap b/c she'd been startled by the sound of me letting the dog out. But now fully awake, she drew back, looked me dead in the eye & went after me again!

Now this bitch was 65 lbs of solid muscle & had the mouth of an alligator. Thank God my husband was there, b/c had she got on me, there was no way I'd have gotten her off. Had I been alone, she could have maimed me or worse yet, killed me.

You have to realize what you have Malachi. Man-biters are bad, but bulldogs who bite family members they know are very, very dangerous indeed. You may be able to get your dog to behave better via NILIF, but he will never, ever be able to be a completely trustworthy & he may bite again at any time. Trust me, I learned the hard way.

So please consider well your choice. Someone's life may depend on it.

 

Hold on a second OldTimer. I never questioned anyone as a dogman in this entire thread.

If anything I made lite of a post that questioned everyone elses experience with dogs. The post was made by Rockstar. You show me a post where I questioned if he was a dog man and I will apologize. I man enough to ask forgiveness when I am wrong. But in the same breath Im gonna let you know that nobody is gonna run their soup coolers at me telling me what I know and dont know. I dont have nearly the experience that a fair share of people have on this forum, but I do have enough to know if an APBT bites a person it needs a dirt nap. Take a read at this post below and see who is questioning who. Dont expect me to get on the kiss the mods ass train because it aint gonna happen. The post below is aimed at everyone that said cull the dog, of which I think you were part.

Ferk out

 

waiting for an update here - is malachi off killing the dog or the boyfriend?

isn't it a little ironic for someone with the username juckingferk to be so offended by profanity? lol

rockstar is definitely a dogman, and a damn sexy one :p

 

Im not offended by profanity, I am actually a fan. But, there is a time and a place for everything. With all the posts about the future of this board I would find this not be proper place at the proper time.

Again, show me where I said Rockstar was not a dogman. Wasn't me, wasn't my post.

Ferk out

 

Well, tonight I tried to take a bone that was dangerous away from China. She let me take hold of one end ,but not let go. I't took a lot of patience and skill, but I won. I kept telling her no and drop it, It took about a minute and she let go. Never tried to bite or change her position on the floor. She knew at that point I was in charge. I hope you have a good outcomewith your dog. Linda

 

You're absolutely right. I got a little heated, and I apologized. I'm going to go back to standing in the corner now.