Some of the best guard dog????

ok i posted a thread earlier but didnt get the responses i was expecting, but anyways i was wondering what top three guard dogs are???? i just want a dog to guard my 2.5 aceres of property, i meen if someone jumps my fence while im asleep, i want the dog to rip the guy a new asshole befor i have to wrry about grabbing my gun, what kind of dog do u guys suggest i look into, i am a family man and would realy apprciate some mature answers thx............ btw its legal for a dog to rip an intruder in half where i live , as bad as it sounds..... thx

Fila????
Cuacasian Ovrchka ???

sry bout the spelling

 

Dogge de Bordeaux, Presa Canario, and Cane Corso's make excellant gurad dogs.


My bro has two Presa's that are exactly the way you want your guard dog to be. They are wonderful with the family but will rip you a new one if they don't know you!

 

right on, but from my other post, people were saying u have to train them to do that, and even then there bark is better than there bite, is basicaly what they were saying,

 

If you want a dog that has natural guarding instincts , you could try a Fila , but i hope you dont have friends or guest, cause most real filas will tear em ***hole aswell lol.........................

 

I would think that the dog doesnt neccesarily need to be trained to guard or attack or anything.As long as the dog is intimdating looking and will bark,that should be enpough to keep people out.I know I sure wouldnt jump in a closed fence with a presa.Chow Chows are extremly protective,but they require a strong hand and someone very experienced with dogs.Also I personnaly dont trust them with kids so if you dont have any ,and your up to the challenge it might be worth looking into.I have also heard that any kind of herding/sheep dogs tend to do well in guarding property.

 

Yes presas make good guard dogs. But I think you mistook the information presented to you in the previous post. You're not guaranteed a guard dog even if it's a guarding breed from the best lines, best parents, etc. If you want to be 100% sure the dog will do it's job it takes training. You can't take a lab out into the woods and expect it to retrieve a duck without tearing it apart without training. You can't expect a Pointer to hold a point without taking chase without training. Any dog or human athlete/worker needs training in order to be 100% successful. You want a guard dog that isn't going to just go attacking everybody, everything that's not family...that's not a guard dog, it's a threat to society and ultimately fuels the BSL fire. I suggest looking for reputable breeders of the various guard breeds in your area, any personal protection trainers (again reputable), etc and talk to them about breeds and training.

I see people with what they call guard dogs all of the time, signs posted, dogs barking like mad, but I can walk right up to the damn things and they back off and/or become big wiggle bums. Anybody with any dog sense and ideas on dominance can walk up to an untrained guard dog and completely take over.

 

Some breeds of dogs are naturally protective of their owners & their territory. While no 'official' training is needed in order to bring about these instincts ( just like DA in the pit bull) I still think it neccessary in order to have control of the dog in the case of visitors. You want to be able to call the dog OFF & with no training I don't see that happening easily.

 

I have a mix of Cane CorsoAPBT. She is one of the craziest and wildest bitches on the earth. She has alot of the natural guarding in her and will guard my house with no problem She has a good job at naturaly guarding the house. So I would say a Cane Corso would be an awsome choice in my book!


Tony

 

LOL,wiggle bum.Sorry I know this is kind of off subject but yesterday I'm out front washing my car and I have Bruiser my foster dog chained out there with me.Well these high school kids come down the street hollerin and making a ton of noise as they are prone to do.They get right near the end of my driveway and Bruiser goes crazy barking and pulling on his chain like he's ready to eat someoneI know he just wanted some love but these kids are convinced he's going to kill them .They wouldnt even walk past my house on the other side of the street.I told them its o.k.,he doesnt want to hurt you,I even told them they could come up and pet him and see .They wouldnt do it.About this time ,the little kid next door(he's about four)comes busting out the front door,runs across the yard and ,walks right up to bruiser and put his arms around bruisers neck.Of course bruiser smothers him with big wet dog kisses.So finnaly one of the girls comes up and starts petting bruiser.Eventually they all came over to meet him,and see that his bark really is worse than his bite.I think Bruiser would definetly fall into thr "wiggle-bum"catagorie.

 

Very true..BUT when faced with a dangerous situation, even the most violent seeming dogs (with natural protection instincts), will back off and never put a tooth in the intruders arse. This is another possibility when looking for a guard dog. Also, trying to "train" a guard dog on your own is asking for trouble IMO

 

This I TOTALLY agree with. you can screw up a dog dog with bad training<!-- / message --><!-- sig -->

 

i will stick with american bulldog..a twelve gauge does wonders also..and i hate to say it but the little hairy rat dogs..are the ones that love to bite people..oh i forgot a wolve hybred will be a good gaurd dog..

 

IMO, if you're talking property guard, Cane Corso, Dogo Canario (Perro de Presa Canario), and Neapolitan Mastiff. It is not really easy to find good working dogs of any of those breeds in the states though. The easiest, I think, would be the Presa, Corso, then the Neo. I haven't seen a Corso I like here in America and I haven't seen a Neo that even looks close to a working dog here. Working Neos do still exist however.

That any of those breeds should do well. A good breeder and training is key though.

The Corsos, Presas, and Neos I've seen all were great with their kids. Not as good with just random kids but not bad. Just not super happy to see them. Female Neos are some of the best kids dogs I've ever seen. They're happy to take a beating, super loyal, and no one will mess with your kids and get away with all body parts intact.

LOL. Nothin' bad about that. It can be very entertaining.

A Fila is a whole lot of dog. They are not bred solely to guard property either. They are great animals but I don't think the best for your situation.

Hell no. lol. You don't want to get something like that until you have TONS or experience with dogs in general and more specifically flock guardians. You wouldn't want a dog like that anyway. They are bred to guard flocks not property. Old Timer gave the perfect example in his story involving his Great Pyrenees in your other thread. Most of the good flock guardians are WAY to much dog for even very experienced handlers and they need a lot of room and a consistent job. Breeds like the Kangal, Central Asian Owtcharka, Estrela Mountain Dog, Sarplaninac, Kuvasz, Komondor, Caucasian Owtcharka, Akbash, and Africa Koochee amongst many others are way to much dog for the average person. That is an accident and un unhappy dog waiting to happen.

 

Are you serious? Have you ever dealt with hybrids? I would DEFINITELY NOT recommend one of those. JMO. Not only do they tend to turn out dangerous to humans because their owners can't handle them but also completely unhappy themselves. They are not bred over hundreds of years to guard property like the guardian breeds. The ones I've seen, which has been dozens, couldn't guard at all and tended to be bad fear biters. Wolves will run. They aren't too bold. A wolf cross will most likely turn out fearful and useless as a guard dog or bold like the domesticated side with the wolf quality bad ass and that is a liability. That is a HUGE danger to your kids. Heck, that is a huge danger to you, your neighbors, other pets, your neighbor's pets, anyone that visits, people that simply walk past your property and most any other live thing it would ever happen to come in contact with. IMO, hybrids should never intentionally exist let alone be used for some sort of guarding. JMHO.

 

i have to, imo that cane corso is the best guard dog nex to rottweiller an english mastiffs. fila from what i know are great, but i think they are harder to train. the caucasian dogs, are really a handfull, but i did see some vids with them working , and thety have a terrible bite and are very territorial.. i would choose a cane corso, and i think i am going to buy one of those, cause from where i'm where. romania, they still have some working dogs, especially in protection.

 

How about dobermans, aren't they bred for guarding, and protection. Also rottweilers?

 

I can't help you there, I've never wanted a guard dog so I don't know squat about 'em. I will say BE CAREFUL out there. I have seen more than a handful of teddy bear Cane Corsos and sweet as pie Filas. So research your breeders and be very selective.

IMHO...dogs in general are a visual deterrent to most folks, and that's about it. The people who decide they want to continue to come into my home despite the fact that I have dogs that they don't know will bite or not? Well...I'm not going to hope my dogs handle the situation for me. I'll let my gun do the talking.

 

I think the most sensible guardian I've had/have is our male Dogo Argentino. When properly socialized, they seem to have a lot of sense as far as not keying up over nothing, and they've got a big enough bark that most don't want to test their bite. I should offer the disclaimer that I don't know if Jedi's attitude is typical for the breed or not, as I've only met two Dogos in real life. That said, you want to make sure whatever you get is well-socialized, because the last thing you need is him nailing somebody going to give you a hug or something.

 

I raised rotts for over 15 years, and imo, they make excellent "guard" dogs. A friend of mine that raises APBT "guards" her yard with Dobes. Both breeds have natural guarding instincts and yes, "get the job done"!

kinda partial to rotts tho! ...just my .02....
here's Kaiser, who weighed in at 130lbs:



EDIT: to add:
Remember Dave Lewis, you guys, aka Texas Pit Dogs, well he had Dobes as well=swore by them...

 

a friend of mine had a few Rhodesian Ridebacks to guard his yard of bulldogs, they tore through the barrier fence and tore his Ch apart (RIP), he had no chance

sometimes what was meant to protect your yard can backfire

purchase with caution, this wasnt a rookie dogman either, terrible sht can happen to anyone. He has since sold all his dogs, it pulled his heart out losing that dog



RIP Ch Mr. Serious

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