whopper dogs the real deal

the whopper dogs that you see alot of people breeding to are there
mutts, it all started with "eddingtons wanta be a whopper" , see for
those of you who arent in weight pulling eddie eddington was a
pitbull breeder and he weight pulled his dogs , he won a but load of
trophies and stuff, anyway he was given this puppy "whopper" who was
half american bulldog and half douge de bourdoux, his father was
really "johnsons dick the brusier 2 " an american bulldog , eddington
threw adba papers on the dog and started weight pulling him , whopper
was around 120lbs , well he won everything under the sun in weight
pulling , and he was also bred a but load of times back to real
pitbulls, that is where you get the worlds strongest dog "spaldings
chevy red dog" who has one that title like 7 times or so , "chevy" is
really 1/2 pit 1/4 ab 1/4 ddbx and 106lbs, chevy is more popular than
whopper in somes eyes and has also so been bred alot, thats where you
get the "chevy line" , its like all gotti dogs are greyline dogs,
(but not all greyline dogs are gotti dogs ), the same is for this
(not all whopper dogs are chevys dogs, but all chevy dogs are whopper
dogs ), these dogs are great pullers , but there not pit bulls ,
there bandogs , so know that your paying $2000 and up for a mutt,
stay away from wanta be a whopper ,spaliding chevy red dog stuff if
you want to stay pure pitbull , bigger is not always better . it makes me sick to think people mixing other lines of dogs but they do!!!

 

good post storm

 

Good Post!

 

Well first of all is your information is it fact or is it some rumor you herd. Where do you get your information. Surely you didn,t get if from eddie eddington. Well i personally know daryl spaldings and i will ask him myself about this information.
I will post the comments that he has to say about it.

 

Look at the ****ing dog and tell me that's a purebred!!! http://drawthelinekennels.com/Whopper.jpg It doesn't take a genius to realize he's mixed with something.

 

I have to say that everyone involved with the APBT probably knows that "Whopper" is mixed,it is a simple fact. E.E. had some of the best weight pull dogs there ever were or ever will be, but 99% of his dogs from "Whopper" forward were not pure APBT. I do have to ad that the dogs "Pre-Whopper" (Wilhe, Kanshe, Otta, etc...) were pure APBT and produced some very good weight pull and working dogs. You will find some of these in modern day working peds as well as their ancestors that came before them. But those Eddington dogs were not large or out of proportion in anyway, they were true to breed standard.

 

Why don't you ask Rick Kunze about it from Invince-a-Bull knls? He knew E.E. personally. Rick was also one of the 1st ppl to buy a dog off Whopper & he will openly tell you Whopper was mixed. He said E.E. didn't hide that fact, it only became a "cover-up" type thing later.

 

did dogs with whopper blood ever get there papers pulled?

 

It's true!!! Its true!!! I was recently at the Saline Michigan Adba show and pull. The littlest dog in the pull was a dog by the name of ''Little Man"" Little man was also baddest dog at the pull & a clear crowd favorite. After the pull I found the owner and asked him what bloodline Little Man was breed down from he told me he was a pure Eddington dog. I almost messed myself ! I said to him with a bewilderd look on my face'' dont them dogs normaly run about 90 pounds larger He responded no the line is known for being small!! I said dont all the eddington dogs go back to ''Wanna be a whoper'' he said no. He went on to tell me that E Eddington had two seprate lines of dogs the xl line of whoper and a line of tru blue pitbulls. Needless to say I was Schooled.

 

its true he had two types of line, but I am not argueing that whopper is not mixed. I am just saying how do you know exactelly what line he is mixed with. You seem to be the only person to know that, that is why I am asking these questions.

I ran acrost a guy at oklahoma show who had a little 40 pound eddiengton dog That is how I know about the one line.

 

I think Eddington also kept the Wilhe Makit dog. And he was a little APBT.

 

Was Whilemake it not a Patterdale/Apbt cross? I honestly dont know the truth, I'm not too intrested in dogs bred for the pull. I seen a few Whilemakeit dogs and they were impressive, just not my type of dog. I ask, because I have been told many times before While was a patterdale cross, in much the same way as Whopper. Either way, I know for certain while has nothing to do with Whopper, besides Breeder name. LOL

 

The smaller eddington line actually comes down from Ch. Andersons Tonka, a gamebred dog. I've seen nothing to suggest that they were ever crossed with patterdales or anything else. The ones I've seen have been some of the toughest roughtest little dogs around and I would be proud to own one. Some may have a different opinion, but I think they aren't mixed.

As far as the big dogs go, the owners of them may deny they are mixed, but I think they are. But, I personlly like the dogs, even if they aren't "pure". They are good weight-pull dogs and they are good all around dogs. I get along with most of the "big-dog people" too. They are all great folks. If the ADBA threw papers on these dogs, I would miss the dogs & and the people associated with them. So, alas I am torn because I still think the dogs themselves are mixed. I would hate to loose the dogs and people in the weight-pull, but also hate to see the dogs passed off a pure. Just my personal opinion.

 

I know they are descended from Tonka, however I have *heard* multiple times that they are know mixes such as the pitterpatter dogs. This may be false info, which is why I'm asking if anyone knows for sure-because I do not.

 

I don't think Wilhe himself was mixed with Patterdale. However, people have been using Wilhe blood to mix with Pats and get Pitterpats to pull with.

 

That might of been it, thanks

 

Is it just me or does it bother the hell out of others too that the ADBA, an organization that supposedly seeks to preserve the historically accurate and standard-conformant purebred APBT seems to be registering mutts as pure??

What do you think this means for the future of the breed per ADBA standard? The stewards of the breed standard are polluting their own well! This is totally ridiculous.

As for the dogs themselves, I am a big dog fan too (presa canario being my favorite breed) as well as a game-bred bull dog fan, so I have nothing against the not-so-little monsters specifically, but the blatant pedigree falsification is just driving me nuts.

 

I always saw Eddington pull as a kid and he was a serious, all business guy and for the most part he used strictly pits. I will say though, that in the 80's he had a dog named Great Kantu or something along those lines and he was mixed also. Must go back aways. Then again people say that Bettes Bighead was mixed as well.

EDIT: The dog was known as Awesome Kantu and while I don't know that he was mixed, I've heard that he was and he looked it. He preceded Whopper by a few years. I agree with the other person posting from OKC that most of those big dogs are good dogs and the people who breed them are great people. In fact there's a lot more of a messed up crowd in the old timey game dog people around here. As for the ADBA, they probably had their hands tied because Eddington had a good rep and was important in the weigh pulling world and so of course they register his dog (they can't look at every dogs conformation) and then a year later out comes this monster that looks like he's part bear. I would also doubt that Whopper is half AB/half DDB. Probably more like Half APBT/1/4 DDB and 1/4 AB

 

So I know this thread is very very very old but just out of curiosity, what happened to Eddington? I have heard that he is now deceased, does anyone know if this is true. While Eddington's Wanna be a Whopper may have been mixed, I would like to point out that he himself never hid this fact. He actually called his Whopper dogs the Oklahoma Pull Dogs, but the ADBA wanted to cover that fact up. His whopper dogs were great dogs and I'd take a whopper dog over an ambully anyday. Also his pure stock are great dogs as well. If he is in fact deceased, may the man rest in peace.

 

everyone knew edie's whopper was not a bulldog but breed like previous stated on this thread. katy; eddie and rick discoused geting the papers on him tgether. katy knew what was going on and whooper was never supposed to be breed. but he was now that cannot be undone.and yes i heard that from the conspritors lol . dan