Name Change?

I Personally Wouldn't Care If They Wanted To Choose Their Own Name, But Would Insist On My Kennel Name Remaining In Front Ofthat Chosen Name. We Work Hard To Breed And Maintain The Best Of What We Have, Take Our Time To Prove And Title Parents, Etc.......... So Why Shouldn't The Breeder Receive Credit?

 

Well that is true we do work hard to breed and maintain the best. However who is the coustomer? It should be something that you both argree on. I spend allot of money on good dogs and I respect the kennel I get them from but I don't wan't another kennel being advertised with in my own kennel. Now there are some folks out there that are greats amoung us and many of us would welcome in our kennel and even invite them to name a dog for us. But those are quickly fading away. If you and the person agrees that is fine. For one thing you should be the type that a person would want to use your name. However there are some kennels that produce some good dogs ( not a bunch or the majority). That has something I want but their name isn't part of what I want. No one under 45-50 fits that the high standards I want in my kennel. It takes many years to make a good breed line and a good name for your self. If any one looks at the ped they will know where that pup came from with out your name being on the pups registration. I understand the hard work put into it. And maybe you are one of the greats I am talking about. I can't get that from a nick name on an I know a few of you personally. Marty probably qualifies for one I would invite him to pick the name.
Bamaboy is another for what he does for the breed. I breed and keep the best or at least the best in my oppinion and sell the rest to people who I feel deserve a good dog. Those that know me know I don't even try to make a profet. My mane goal it to strictly find a good home and I am very peticulare where my pups go. My contract is heavy. I don't really wan't your money I want your trust and friendship because I am going to show up and check on the pup You can bet on that. In my contract it states the penalty for breaking my rules. If some one wanted my name on the dog I would let them but otherwise I let them choose the name. After all they at that time let me into there personal life, criminal background check, home check, vet and reference checks. I am a hound. Some times people stop me at the criminal check and strait up tell me they are not clean. That is good because honesty holds water and I will take that in account. I do understand the work and labor put into a good line. But they are the one paying a low fee to me and letting me poke into their private world. My dogs just don't go any place I will keep them all first.

 

If you are thinking that ours go just any place, I can assure you they don't. Here is an example of what I am talking about as far as Naming:
GAPITS "insert your chosen name here",
this is how we do it and this is what is right and fair in our eyes. So as you can see the customer has the right to name it whatever they want, they are just not able to change the kennel name in front. I don't know about you but I have invested a huge amount of time and effort into my dogs and want my name carried forward to the future with what has come from our yard. This has been a standard practice for as long as I can remember, think about is this way without that being done where would lines like Boudreaux, Carver, and Hammonds ( and remember they weren't always great, they started as unknowns just like the rest of us) be if everyone that ever got a pup from one of those greats completely changed the name and never gave credit where it was due.

 

the breeder has the say on name changes. if you get a gyp and then breed her then its your turn to give that permission or not
. remember if it hadnt been for the breeder you wouldnt have what you got grip

 

I don't think any thing of the sort. I don't even speculate that. I understand what you are saying and do feel you can do what ever you want. You are saying now that you put your kennel name first and let them choose their own name from that point. That is different than not giving the person any right to name the dog at all. Which is my point I if buying a pup desire to name the dog what I want. If it is in your contract to put your kennel first then so be it what ever is in the contract once signed is law. Some of my dogs have my kennel sign on them and some have my last name as the sign. My deal is if I am going to pay for something I am going to pick the name both legal and call. If we agree on keeping your kennel name on there then that is an agreement. But if I am forking out $1200-$3500 on a pup I wan't to name it. And I don't mind putting " Of Ga Pits on it either if that is what you desire and we agree on it. I am sure you have invested much into your dogs and kennel. So have I for over 30 years. I don't expect any less from others. Hell just the name is an investment in DBA, tax codes, registrations of kennel in different clubs, state Ls. fee's, state medical Ls. fee, and so on. That doesn't even get into the expense of one dog yet and you're into thousands. Equipenent, Kennels, crates, bowls, etc. etc. then dogs, vets cost (for most), Land, cables, chains conditioning equipement and so on. Probably when all said and done over $150,000 in a kennel. And still having to make a name for yourself in a breed of dog. I ran the hound dog network for a long time. Never was I so excited about a breed like I am now. These dogs can do it all even tree a coon. Heck they will tree a bear, run a rabbit, squirell etc. Even retreive. I know only one other dog that compares in the multi tasking and it is in my Homeland of Hungary. Viscula. But it isn't near as a dura last as the pit bull. A pit bull will run something till it just falls over. No concept of stop I'm tired and hot. Not always a good thing but true. Any way What we started out with is the person didn't have the choice to name the dog period on the papers. Having the kennel name out front or rear is not the same as not having any part in it at all. I do get pushy some times on naming. There is more than one kennel incorporated under my name and I am as picky with what goes on there as I am here.

 

Well, I just got an email from the person I bought the pup from. I had told them yesterday that we both would lose on this deal. That I would sell the pup without papers. She emailed a breeder friend of hers about this, and then she emailed me and said they would allow me to change the name!!! Thank you Jesus! I really do like the pup and hated to sell him. As to the thing about wanting others to have the kennel name upon the dog, I guess you'll know when you have arrived when others ask you to leave your kennel name upon the dog. If JP were still alive, and got a pup from him, I would probably pay extra to have his name on the dog.
Thank you all for you input. We all have different opinions of this issue, some have the same feelings as I , some not. Those that did not, I appriciate you posting as it was helping the fumes to come down to see into the mind set of why this happened.Thnx.
I have just come from a different school. If I buy a great male and female from a known kennel, and produce the freatest pups that ever hit the plannet, I am not producing my bloodline. I am selling "whoever's" dogs. And when I would go to sell them, they would be marketed as _____ dog's. If I was a newby in the dog business, I would not make much if I marketed them as mine. However, after several generations of breeding I become cosistant with the pups I produce from my yard, eventually people who buy them will have folks ask,"where'd you get that pup?" and then people begin to come. Then the day would come that you would be asked,"can I please leave your name on the front of the dog?" because it would have more value with your name on it! Problem being, we live in a microwave society and dont want to go through the time it takes to get to that point. And if we truely are dog men and women, we will want to take the time, because the time with these animals IS the reward, not the reputation, money or prestige, but the dog. I love these dogs. They have more character than most of the people I know. I have learned so much about life from being around them and having relationship(not relations LOL) with them. People that have never had one, cannot understand this at all. And when someone I know begins to ask questions, I say,"wait till the next litter I have, and I'll give you one. Just raise it as a part of your family, and you'll see why".(and when I sell these pups, I dont sell them cheap). Several things are accomplished in doing this. We will have one more mouth out there defending them, their friends and family will be exposed to one and their mind sets will begin to change, and I will have found a great home for one of my kids that I can come and see whenever I want. Mind you, I wouldnt do that for anyone, just those whom I know would give the dog a great home, usually someone without another dog, so that the dog can have all the attention!!HA HA
I'll get off my soapbox now. I am so very happy that I can change the name of the dog now. I'll post a picture of him later on.
Jay

 

looking forward to that photo.

William

 

That lady sounds like an arrogant control freak. Forget the paper name and call it what u want. The bitch just wants to see her name on a dogs pedigree is all. She hasnt established a line or anything like that, so her name is shit.

If she is so concerned about her name, did she fix the dog before you got it? Did she make you sign a contract stating you cant breed unless she approves of the mate or breed to a dog on her yard? If she didnt, she doesnt REALLY care about her name being on junk (not saying your dog is junk).


YIS

 

Many breeders either name the dogs or ask that their kennel name be in the dog's name.

The owners than make the call names in most cases.

This is pretty common practice and honestly is stuff that should have been discussed and put in the contract you signed when you purchased the puppy.

The call name is the most important thing usually to the owner because that is what the dog is called not what it is on the paperwork


Good luck with your new puppy

 

Contract? What contract? Like I said, 10 min. after she left I was looking over the certif. and noticed this. I haven't had to deal with this before. Now, I have ,through discussing buying dogs from different kennels, had them tell me in the beginning, no name change, no breeding, spay/neuter, approved breedings only, etc, like I said, in the beggining to save both of our time. I wont pay my money for a dog that isn't truely mine! That's just me. Now, on the other side of that, I have given pups to people on conditions, GIVEN, not sold. To me, that is a big difference.
All is resoved now, well is supposed to be, will know it REALLY is when I have the papers returned in my name.
Jay

 

Well sorry to say, you sir come off as a glory hound. Why do you have to have your name on a dog, When the only actuall thing you did is pay for a pup. When you pay for a case of budwiser do yopu tell the guy at the liq. to change the name to PURPLEPIG? i didnt think so. Its not like you brewed the beer. If you so desire to have your name on a ped. then put your time in, Breed something worthy of being paid for and put your stamp on it. until then quit pissin and moanin about other's people's requierment's.

 

Okay, here he isI hope this attach thing works, I am new at this.

 

Well, sir, when I pay for something I do expect my name to be upon it. I do not buy beer anymore, but beer is not something that must be registered. When I buy a truck, the registered name is mine. Cheverolet is on the title, and when people see the truck they know it is a Chevy, but the registered name of the truck is not Chevy, it is mine as I paid for it. Chevy is not so insecure about their product that they have to have their name as the registered owner, they believe in their product, and know that when others see it, they'll know it's theirs, as their stamp is on it. If a breeder is such a good one, then they should not be so insecure that they must have their name on the registered name! Their name is on the ped as breeder, and should be on the mama and daddy. If not, they are not breeders anyway. They just bought someone elses dogs and bred them together, and they are trying to get a name for someone elses hard work!! Surely you wouldnt be one of those, would you? It would be different if the dog was given to me,then they could keep their name upon it. Is my name on the dog as the breeder? NO. Is the dog mine? YES. You are definately a trip. Glory Hound!ROFLMBO!!I am just not a control freak, and refuse to allow anyone else to control me, sept the Lord God Almighty.Now He is the one that all glory goes, not me.
Jay

 

Attila i am HIGHLY impressed with how you go about putting your dogs in homes.. Very Very excellent doing all that work to make sure the dog goes to a great home!!!

 

Do they not allow you to put a call name on the papers?

 

After they spoke to a reputable kennel, they said I could name the dog, so the issue is resoved.
Jay

 

ok, have a pic of the pup?

 

I have tried several times to insert the photo, I guess I'll change my sig pic to it.Hand on.
J

 

The new one is the chocolate?(that's what the papers say,kinda red to me)in the bottom middle. figured I show you a few of the others also!! The top right, Brendy, was a dog that had an owner that was starving and mistreating and fighting. when I got her she had about 40 ticks on her, 12 in one ear, was starving and would not lift her beautiful head to look at me. Broke my heart! Everyone here said to keep her away form the kids and that I should have shot the dog, but now when she sees me coming, she gets excited and will roll onto her back for the ole belly rub!!LOL Oh, and as far as the kids, she is in love with my three year old daughter and the feeling is mutual. She is a fantastic girl, wouldnt trade her for anything. She'll be here till she passes. All of them are unique and have traits that I find desireable, and hopefully will be able to pull together over time. What ya think about the Mod Squad? I have a few others also, but didnt have enough room. I have 10 on the yard right now. I love them!
Jay