True Gamedogs (Video)

You got to love it lol. Them dogs are just a breed of there own.

 

I agree with the thought that these type of dogs should be their own breed, but I don't think it'll ever happen. People that want these kind of dogd will never want to lose the "pit bull" name because "pit bulls" are associated with being "cool" or "tough".

Idiots. I'm sick of seeing these dogs. Some of them are so deformed and unhealthy and all those people can think is that they want a million more like it so they can make a quick buck. They don't care about health or temperment or quality or anthing like that. Thugs and gangsters have found a new and LEGAL way of making money as opposed to selling drugs. This crap SERIOUSLY makes me want to hurt people. SERIOUSLY.

 

If i'm not mistaken this bbq was held at Jackson Ranch just north of me in or by Sacramento. it's an annual event and they come from all over CA. I'ts to bad to all the A.D.B.A clubs in Ca aren't having shows or aren't as active as they used to be and all these UKC branches or these type of clubs are popping up everywhere.

 

Wow, now that's game! More spikes than a Norwegian Black Metal band. Loved the heavy duty chains and the guy wearing the spiked collar the most.

Going through some of the other videos on there and I came across this one. More than likely it has been posted on here already, I don't know. But if you haven't seen it, then it's worth taking a look at. It could make you feel better after watching it!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9nnF1AeY6A&search=pit%20bull%20

 

I hadn't seen that one yet. Thanks GSD! We needed that! I wonder what the breeders of those hippos will think after seeing that one?

 

This is my OPINION. I like all apbt but how do you know they were bred to other breeds because of the way they look, the only way is to look at the paperwork and see if breeder were actually cross breeding to different breeds and hanging papers. And yes there were some breeders that did actually bred to mastiff or BD to get the bigger size which I think it truely wrong. What alot of these breeders did when short and bully style pits were coming up were breeding the biggest of the litters together or shortest together to get what we have today called selective breeding. Yes they probably can't run or hog hunt and shit like that but that's ppl's taste in this breed. Some are saying if my game dog was around them he would go crazy them mabye just maybe it's these game line dogs that are mostly at fault for BSL. I do think that selling these pups for a crazy price is just stupid since there not titled. People just go with the flow of things and since bullier is better as they make it seem in society today ppl just buy them to be on top of the game. Alot of these dogs are tru pits as much as some ppl don't want to face it. I just think we should support the breed positively whether being mixed or not because the BSL don't care if it's pure or not, to them as long as it looks like a pit it"s bad. Again this is my opinion so don't come at me harrassing me lol.

Jose

 

I got a laugh out of MAKING it.

You hit the nail on the head as far as spikes go. I could've sworn I saw the same collars before. . . When I saw Dimmu Borgir at Ozzfest '04 :cool:

 

So, eh, what do YOU think a true APBT is? Huh? Huh? How come everytime I ask for a history lesson on the Gottiline dogs, all I get is a bunch of "It's no of yo business", or "if you were truly interested you'd already know!".

If it was merely selective breeding that made these hogs, how come they showed up almost overnight? I don't remember seeing these dogs 10 years ago. TRUE selective breeding takes time, not your neighbors English Bulldog.

 

well well well another thread bashing these dogs, when is this ever going to stop. I love game dogs and I am not okay with these dogs over populating this world but there is nothing we can do about it. How is this thread in any way shape or form educating people that dont know about this breed. There has been to many threads on this topic and this is gettin old. Yes there are to many of these dogs around and that is bad but instead of bashing them all you have do is explain that they are not up to the true standards of the APBT and leave it at that.

 

Hey, I'm lookin' for some edumacation. I have the history of Razor's Edge dogs from the creator himself. NO ONE will (Or can? ) supply me with information on the formation of the Gotti line. Jasper is the prime canidate for it, he says he's been studying them for about 2 years. He should at least be able to supply me with some basic info.

 

I understand that and trust me I would love to hear about how these dogs relate to the Pit bulls of the past and what they are all about but know body has came and explained because of all the bashing they get when they come on this site. Beleive me by looking at them you can make assumptions and give your opinions but we dont know for sure so if we calm down for a minute we might be able to get info from them and find out what they did to get them like that.

 

GSDbulldog I haven't been studying the Gotti line for 2 years but not every apbt that is bully was crossbreed why can't you face the fact. When I first bought my dog I didn't care about lines or what ppl thought was cool or not. I bought him because I like the breed, he was cute and wanted a dog. I don't know everything and I never will about APBT just like everyone else here. How about you join a bully forum so you can get your answers instead of bashing them all the time. If the truth hurts you about these bully size dogs being pitbull then that's not my problem. If it's a pitbull I'm all for it because everyone has there own taste. What's the real problem that this specific type of style is getting more attention then game so what. We should be worried about protecting our breed and teaching others that don't know about this breed to learn from experience ppl and not what the media says. When I walk my dog and ppl come up to me all that's on my mind is when they walk away they leave with a positive attitude of the breed.

Jose

 

but not every apbt that is bully was crossbreed why can't you face the fact.

No, some of them are "purebred". But look at the AmStaff- No other breeds were mixed in to create it, yet it is now considered a different breed. These "bully breeders" are essentially doing the same thing as the original AmStaff breeders- Only they don't want to distance themselves from the APBT name. Quite the opposite it seems.

If you take a look at Gotti, & then at a conformationally correct English Bulldog, then you'll see what I'm speaking off. If the founder of this line was a mutt, all of his (many) offspring are essentially mutts as well.

How about you join a bully forum so you can get your answers

I did, & got banned for ASKING the questions in the first place. The only answers I recieved were, "U'd know wtf u were talkin about if u really wanted to kno" & blah, blah, blah. It seems they were too busy peddlin' their (Ahem) "pure bred mutts" to answer my questions. If their customers don't care about the lineage of their dogs- Why should the breeders?

I do not want these dogs ("Purebred" or not) associated with the APBT. After seeing what REAL DEAL American Pit Bull Terriers are capable of doing, I'd be embarassed to put two & two together.

The APBT is a working breed, keep it that way.

I'm done with this topic. I suppose I'll never get the answers I seek.

 

My view on that Jasper is that the pit bulls have lost their way. ALot of old timers would say if the dog aint bred to be in the pit then it aint no pit bull thats why the show dog "Staffys" were made. They are pit bulls turned show dogs there for they are no longer pit bulls they are Staffs. SOme of these bullys are not even bred for show they are just bred for the big head, wide chest and that is not how it is suppose to be. What people dont understand is what pit bull trully is and thats why there are so many arguements about this.

 

not trying to stir this up again......but what line was under investigation for breeding in other breeds into their line, and what came of it. i think it was the gotti-line but might be wrong. it could have been razors edge. just curious.

 

I understand how you guys feel about the apbt only being a working dog. I wish my dog was alittle more gamey cause he gets tired to fast and he's not even that fat only 73lbs at 14 months old. I like short and wide but to a certain point not these 100lbs plus that are so short there legs look like they want to break. But the truth is we can't stop breeders from doing what they want. My main concern is that no matter what style of pit we should socialize them properly so the BSL can stay off our backs. The more I visit this site the more I'm leaning toward game lines. As for what lines were cross breeding I heard De La Cruz lines were back then and that's from what I read online awhile back.

Jose

 

I know you wanna come together but what people here are trying to get across to other people is that there arent different type of pit bulls. THere is only pit bulls not bully type or anything like that. Until we here the history on these new looking big dogs we wont consider them pit bulls. Bully bred dogs and game bred pit bulls are not the same. They have more differences then similarities. I am not bashing or trying to offend anyone I am just being real.

 

I understand I'm not getting offended in anyway but what I think we should all agree on is that the BSL is attacking alot of states and they don't care if it's pure pit or not as long as it looks like one, it's going to get a bad rap. I agree that breeders breeding for this bully style shouldn't have anything to hide if confronted about the history of the lines, to me if they get upset I would think automaticly that they are hiding something.

 

Yes thats what I think...look how friendly they are to humans AND other dogs....look at the short legs ,the overweight the heads and the necks....you know what I think? This EXPERTS cross english show bulldogs with amstaff and maybe some real stuff....rofl...C R A Z Y !!

 

how cute ...i want a little blue pig too..