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Zebo dogs

Discussion in 'APBT Bloodlines' started by briarpatch, Oct 9, 2009.

  1. Mr.Revolution

    Mr.Revolution CH Dog

    i agree with most of your post but many have made it on heart alone.mouth alone etc...But yeah of course we should all strive for the best.But remember your total package will always lack something in someone elses eyes.And the total package would equate to an Ace in my eye and they aint that common
     
  2. NGK

    NGK Top Dog

    Lets not forget that "Aces" tend to come from average yards and are the main selling point of the average yard as once a breeder produces one ace the general public jumps on their bandwagon in the hopes of being the next owner of that yards "Ace".

    None of us have ever heard of an "Ace yard" although I do beleive that every breeder strives to produce one. In a perfect world all a guy would have to do is open his wallet and buy a career but this isn't a perfect world and the majority will fail regardless of their want to succeed.

    If you could own 1 Zebo in your lifetime with these dogs you would be lucky but still no better than the next guy, if you could breed 1 Zebo then I would say the bragging rights are earned.

    NGK
     
  3. Icepick

    Icepick Banned

    Well Rock n Rye, not trying to single you out on this thread since are last run-in, but I do have something to say about this "Ol saying." I used to believe in that saying too, but that usually implies taking a bitch and breeding it to the 'monsters" sire right? I know thats what most people did. However, if the "monster" is 50% the sire and 50% the dam (thats scientific fact,) how can you really tell definitively where the "Monster" got his traits? Maybe it was the mixture of the sire and the dams genetics that produced that "monster." I would breed directly to the "monster," when possible.
     
  4. olrts

    olrts Banned

    50% Personality from the Dam
    50% Constitution and genetic from the Sire

    = The Mix
     
  5. Icepick

    Icepick Banned

    here's some trivia, who came name the 7 people and/or dogs Zebo beat??? Before we go any further, I'm not bashing, starting crap, or anything about Zebo. Just trivia
     
  6. Rock n Rye

    Rock n Rye CH Dog

    Lester beat his buddy 2x, greaser, eslinger, bob finley, his nephew...
     
  7. Rock n Rye

    Rock n Rye CH Dog

    Depends some dogs show they produce no matter what bred to, and some only produce When bred to one stud or bitch.. If a male produces bred to several bitches I would believe in his ability to throw.. It's all circumstantial.. Speaking of our last run in were you able to read Clemmons interview or call him?
     
  8. Icepick

    Icepick Banned

    No, Rock and Rye I didnt see any point. What was the point of calling him anyway, I forgot. I think it was something about a pretty dog, or something like that. That whole point was about Spook and your claim she quit remember? Heck, I may have believed you if you would have came back with an answer other than "its common knowledge." 20+ years in the game, I'm pretty sure I would have heard that before.
    No need to continue bickering over that stuff anymore. Time to move on buddy.
    You ever consider going into politics???
     
  9. Rock n Rye

    Rock n Rye CH Dog

    No maybe I should tho, do they pay good? Lol, funny you said time to move on but yet you brought up the last convo.. Yea 20 years in dogs and you didn't know Clemmons was the breeder or that he bred to Eli because he was black. So I'm sure you wouldn't call to verify it to be proved wrong.. I even posted saying I would retract my statement and offered apology until my Ol timer buddy would do an interview with a respected person and then is documented.. But we won't hijack this thread we can start our own talk or talk on another one. This is about Zebo.. Do you know or own anything down from Zebo? Do you believe him to be off Eli? Because FB believes it as well as several other eli fanciers..
     
  10. Icepick

    Icepick Banned

    Here's a link for you to read, where FB plainly states "I bred Spook her first heat," taken from an interview with FB. Doesnt get much clearer that that! Yeah, Clemmons may have owned her and took her back, but who knows what the deal was. May have been the "I get first breed to her" clause. Oh yeah, the link also has the story about Boze you posted, the question was "what was the best dog you owned," not favorite. After all though, you stated in your post that "he" told you and many others about taking Spook back to be bred with Floyd, I assume "he" is referring to Clemmons. If "he" was telling you so much, how come you were under the assumption Spook quit? Seems like "he" would have supplied you with that bit of vital information.
    Heres the link though, its to someone's board, but articles are posted giving full credit to authors.
    http://www.riospitbull.com/floyd_boudreaux.htm
    As for owning Zebo bred dogs, lets just say I have owned stuff down through Sonny Boy right from Clemmons, and some others. So yes. As far as Zebo's pedigree, I would say its more probable that he was off Eli, as compared to what his pedigree reads, but there is practically no way to tell now. On the other hand, who wouldnt want to make claim to having produced Zebo???
    As for Zebo's opponents;
    Won over B. Finley in :26 Ref. holcomb
    Won over Eslinger in :23 Ref Floyd B.
    Won over Fowlers ref. Regot 1:57 (giving up 3.5#s most people dont acknowledge or have forgot that)
    Won over Parrish Ref. Carr :27
    Won over Tackett Ref. carter :18 mins
    2 wins were "private" with hughes, I believe over 2 different people.
    Yeah, I think you would be great in politics! I dont know what they pay though.
     
  11. ManiacKennel

    ManiacKennel Big Dog

    look let me just say this as i knew lonzo personally and i always think about this statement is zebo a eli dog as i own lonzo and boudreaux blood to me the blood clicks well together does this mean its realated lets no forget fb waz selling dogs by the boat loads lonzo bred dogs maybe 2 or 3 times a year maximum and even though zebo waz a gr ch lonzo never bred back to him and also sold him young no one really cant tell u for sure how he is bred what i can say is andy threw alot dogs that looked very simular to zebo and lonzo based his yard around andy mostly now fb added zebo to his program and sold many dogs to ppl dont u think he would want to say yeah that was my blood not lonzos and also look at eli off springs they dont look like zebo much except that there black just like lonzos andy was
     

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