Why do so many people hate on frisco?

ol tom always did take a strong stance on his dogs,but myself i never seen anything with my own 2 eyes when i would visit him to say anything diffrent myself.i think a lot of people are pretty jealous of what he has attained over the years just as with any other dogman who has had sucess.if you look into it deep enough everyone from colby to boudreaux had someone at some point and time say hey them dogs ain't worth shit..come take a look at mine if you want to see real dogs,or that guys is as crooked as a bird dogs hind leg..if you want to deal with a honest god fearing person come talk to me i won't wrong ya.most of the time folks who out and out put down such great men in these dogs are only doing it for their own gain in some way shape or form.

 

Not sure if this has been shared as the new site is kinda hard to search and what not. Just wanted to share this.

Frisco: By Vinnie R:
I met Mike Williams a long time ago and helped him get into the dogs and brought him places with me introduced him to people and even helped him start his dog food business. All of which he ruined. China girl did quit on top in her old age with no teeth, which is no excuse which really surprised me as she took a big beating at Steve H's house earlier in life and showed very game.. About Frisco, we rolled him first in Oregon with K.Fee, R.Terry, was there and Terry's dog was in deep trouble in 15min and Frisco almost killed him..2 month later in Oregon we rolled him again and Gene P and Alex from Canada was there. Frisco hit the shoulder and in 7min they had to bury there dog.. About 1mo later we bumped him again. Like always he hit the shoulder then he went to the dick and flopped down like he was unconscious even though he always scratched hard. He showed no signs of quitting and he acted funny like this for the next couple of rolls. From my experience and from talking to old timers I believe he was rubbed the 1st time and he remembered it later. I wanted to see for sure if this was a rub, or if he was not a honest dog so after another 6mo in which time his brother Chinatom became a 2xw by beating a 5xw we tried to run Frisco off and used a big dog names Lever Red who was at least 12lbs bigger and rough with a very hard mouth and strong that had pulled the shoulders out of FB's dog in 12min..This was maybe the best roll I ever saw.. They hit stifle to stifle doing terrible damage and Greg T,Shaman, Mike W and me were there.. Greg said to me at 20min that we better pick up the big dog.. I said let it go, but shaman who worked on dogs medically as a ace said if we did not do it now it would be to late as Lever reds eyes were rolling up in his head and he was going into shock.. We had to put a IV in to save Lever Red.. Frisco scratched hard and true through out this roll and showed only game signs.. It was clear that he was rubbed before and that he was a real bulldog..

My good friendship with Garner is such that I send him dogs if they might help his breeding program.. When I sent Frisco to TG MW was very mad at me as he wanted the dog and claimed the dog was his.. I gave mike $200 cash to send him to TG..MW bred to Frisco before he sent him.. I did not let him keep the dog.. Dogs at his house lived in there own shit, and had sores and if he would steal another mans dog then Frisco might end up missing.. How do I know so much about Him?? I lived down the street from him and everyday I saw how he kept his dogs, and made his dog food.. One day I stopped by his house and saw a dog I knew from another yard.. I asked him about it and he told me how he stole it and changed the papers on it.. He bred this dog to White Head which produced a dog named Rex that sold for big bucks.. Whoever owns Rex can contact me and I will tell you the true breeding on your dog..

Whenever someone finds out their dogs are stolen anything can happen.. I started to understand that MW would lie, cheat and do anything and whoever came looking for him, my wife and child might be at his house if shooting started. .I saw how mike screwed so many people so many times and knew it was just a matter of time.. In Oregon Mike screwed some guys and the Tinman wanted to punch his ticket...I talked to the Tinman and like so many times before I covered for him because he was my friend and I was loyal to him.. Mikes main problem is that he is lazy and tries to cut corners in everything he does but wants respect.. But if you know him you don't respect him.He is very jealous of other people having success in anything but he screws up everything..

I called MW and asked him about the article he wrote.. He said he knew Frisco didn't quit and said he said those things to get back at TG and me because we told how he makes his dog food...This was about the rumor that he pisses in the mixer he makes his food in.. I lived down the street and saw exactly how he made his food like not putting the cover on, and finding mice and mice shit, and bats in the barn.. But i never saw him piss in it.. He begged me since I was godfather to his child that if I told the truth about him I would be hurting his family.. I like his wife and family a lot as they are good people but he's pulled so much shit for so long that he deserves whatever happens to him.. MW will steal, cheat, and lie to screw anyone and will do it to those that love him like a brother.. Like the time he called N of Utah Cole Kennels and said that my wife was very sick and he needed to borrow the $1000 to pay me back the money he owed me.. But MW like always took the money from this trusting lady and never paid her back and never gave any to me..That's MW for ya.. Using lies and pity to steal from people who trust him.. Today he has German shepherds.. He was a loser at game dogs even with all the breaks that he got,and when the GS people find out how he makes his food and keeps his dogs they'll learn about him.. Watch how over time he blows it like he did with the game dogs.

Vinnie R
hope this helps, My opinion is this, Tom has the resources to have the very best, why would he settle for anything less. Lots of haters out there.

 

Where are the new school Frisco hounds at? Tg done had the same lineup for some years now does he have any newer ones up on the hill?

 

https://pedigree.gamedogs.cz/details.php?id=222290

Soon to be announced! Especially the third dog he went against was considered unbeatable!

 

He looks good. Damn good. Got that chinaman look for sure

 

Where is he from?

 

Romanian Dog Of The Year 2017

 

That's what's up man I hope to see him on the hill soon. I'm not going but I check the website from time to time.

 

WELL DONE!!!!!...CONGRATULATIONS!!!!.........

 

Very nice Bulldog . Certainly has earned the tiltle. Not sure about the said unbeatable said he beat. "If you are willing to be fair, you will always have a fight in hand"