Who to vote for?

lol. its all good friend. we will just have to agree to disagree.

now I vote to uplift the ban on talking politics on the site because it seems everyone can talk like adults without getting hot under the collar.

 

Well i will be the first to tell anyone i dislike them,they have done nothing but cause the world grief and headache and are looking to impose their false religion on the world.i don't make any bones about it and won't sit here trying to be politically correct about it,nobody has ever accused me of that in my life.all you have to do is look at what they thinks of america our people and folks who don't belive in their ''religion'' and see why myself and everyone else has the 100% right to dislike them and be wary of them.they want to push their crap all over us while all the while phasing out Christianity and the American way of life.they are the true smile in your face and stab you in the back type,always have and always will be and there are facts to back that up.

 

Why not ask them? instead of placing an image of a raving al zaqawri (sp) calling for violence on america. As does any other race / religion have the right to dislike another race / religion. Morally I dont think its right to dislike someone based on there religion but hey thats just me. We have caused nothing but grief and headache in the world. But we where responsible for advances in medicine and science far back in history.

I honestly think that the religion has now just become a media scape goat. and its a damn shame that people are basing there opinions on me by my religion and what they see about my religon on the news.

 

They are all the same,no matter how they try to present themselfs they are all the same.i have never met a middle eastern i liked.i don't dislike them based on their religion i dislike them based on their actions and the way they treat other people.just right now in Iran a Christian woman was beaten sensless and the court did nothing for them.Morally i think everything they do is wrong,i think cutting a persons head off with a knife is acceptable,i don't think blowing up our twin towers is morally acceptable and the list goes on and on.nobody said anything about you and if it is your choice to follow them beliefs thats your opinion but your trying to turn it around like your just the innocent friendly bystander who is being picked on to get the thread shut down or modified so that you don't have to hear the good word.but as far as who is responsable for what the Lord is responsable for your creation as well as each and every other living thing in the world,as well as creating the world that each and every one of us inhabit.

By the way i noticed you still haven't taken down the thread in your signature where you were trying to sell something thats free but thats a whole other story again.

 

My friend's family is from the Middle East and they are Catholic. So, not all Middle Easterns are Muslims, just like not all Muslims are Middle Easterns...
I have met a few nice Muslims. I have met a few nice Middle Easterns....
I don't believe they are all the same...
There are radicals in every religion. Radicals who make the rest look bad. For example, the Catholics/Christians have the Radicals who blow up Abortion clinics. I, for one, am pro-life, but I am totally against the people who blow up the abortion clinics, but that's a whole other bag of worms. My main point here is Yes, it may seem like ALL Muslims are these radicals who want to kill all of us and our way of life, but that is not the case, there are good practicing Muslims who just want to practice Islam in Peace, like we want to practice Christianity in peace...
The Radicals should be deal with harshly, like any Radical of any Religion, but the rest should be given the right to prove themselves, instead of just instantly being treated badly. Now I don't mean "don't check someone at the airport, because you are afraid of hurting their feelings.", because really all it does is inconvience their day, so it's worth the inconveince. I'm saying those people who hurt Muslims in the US should back off, and let those Muslims live in peace.

 

But see the main diffrence is islam is a entire religion based on hate and world domination,christianity or that is not.all you have to do is look at the islamic law and see what i mean by that.

 

I oppose the thread being closed down or moderated. I wish it to reamin open and everyones comments as they are.

I 100% agree with you coolheadjean

 

LOOOL. sorry but that is funny.

 

Case in point.

Madonna and Britney Spears stoned to death? Bars and clubs closed down? Church bells banned? That's just a taste of what Americans have to look forward to if the Islam religion ever took over the U.S. and imposed Islamic law, according to a new book.
"Once Islam dominates, anyone living inside the Islamic state must abide by our rules. There is no choice. You will abide or face the punishment," said Muhammad Abdel-El, the spokesman and a senior leader a Popular Islamic organization.Sheik Abu Saqer, a prominent Gaza-based preacher, a founder of a popular Islam group, explained if Islam controls the U.S., all American women, whether Muslim or not, must cover their hair This is the demand of our religion. Being and walking naked doesn't mean that you are enjoying more freedom; it means that you are going against Allah's laws and you are serving the enemies of Islam who want to empty our Islamic society from its values. Uncovered heads is a form of nudity." but eventually females would be forced. Those women who refuse will be stoned.




when Asked whether stoning was too harsh a punishment, Hamad replied: "If you don't respect the local law in America, if you don't pay taxes, if you drive on a red light, aren't there sanctions used against you by your government? Of course there are and it's okay with you. Why is there a problem when it comes to the Islamic state that wants to impose its rules?"

Hamad and other Islamic leaders stated all Jews and Christians living in the U.S. once Islam takes over would need to pay the jizya – a special protection tax – and other special taxes for non-Muslims, including one for the right to cultivate land. Non-Muslims cannot own land themselves. Saqer also said no new synagogues or churches can be built in the Islamic state. Existing houses of worship may remain, but services cannot be conducted loudly or in any public fashion. The ringing of church bells or blowing of the ceremonial Jewish shofar would be forbidden, the Islamic leaders said.

when


Asked about crime and punishment, Hamad explained, "For every sin and crime there is a sanction:"

"Prostitution: one hundred whippings; if the prostitute was married, he or she will be stoned until death; for a thief, his hand will be cut. But before enjoying the primitive nature of Islam and before you express how much you are shocked by our rules, I must say that these are not immediate sanctions, but they are used only if the person was warned."

Hamad explained prostitution doesn't mean selling sex; he said the Islamic definition applies the term to all extramarital sexual relations. But he boasted Islam's allowing men to marry many women was a perfect remedy for prostitution. "In order to prevent prostitution and before reaching the sanctions of stoning or whipping, we will marry all our unmarried young. By the way, Islam allows the man to marry four women, so if he or she keeps practicing sex outside marriage and prostitution, in this case the sanctions mentioned in Quran will be used."

The leaders also went on to say,"American culture is very cheap and very corrupting. Your American culture is based on capitalism, on democracy, sex, and other principles that go against the nature of human beings as Allah created. We will fight all that this culture represents and promotes," said sheik Saleh Faraj, one of the main leaders of a popular islamic party in the West Bank.

this is just a sample,now i don't know about you but that doesn't sound like how i want to live.

 

I guess we'll have to agree to disagree on this. I will admit that I haven't read the Quran, but I have heard that many of the "hatred" and all that is taken out of context. It is possible. People have taken things from the bible, and took them out of context to make Christians look bad...
I wouldn't want Islam to take over the US either, but I wouldn't want any Religion to be the ONLY religion on the United States, since we were founded on Freedom of Religion. On the flip side, I don't agree with how many in the US is trying to push Christianity out of the history books and our Country, either.

 

I think thats from a dvd I cant remember but it has a hand grenade on the conver? something like Schoomz with a terrorist ?

These people went to the core of palestine looking for the most radical muslims and put there view on there dvd without looking at a regular law abiding muslim? infact they put self proclamied jihadist...so obviously thats the sort of reaction your going to get. Not from your average guy.

If your going to do a dvd on radical islam atleast put an array of muslim views on there.

 

For the question on title.
I don't know. At first I was leaning towards RUDY!
But now that I hear he hates pits.
Maybe I'll vote for OBAMA! I usually vote republican but theres not
many canidates out there that I like. So for this election I may just vote for
character.

 

, I don't agree with how many in the US is trying to push Christianity out of the history books and our Country, either.

I agree with this.
They ban nativity scences from city dowtown squares.
Retailers say "Happy Holidays" Instead of Merry Christmas.
They are trying to get "In GOD we Trust" off money.
They have successfully removed the display of the Ten Comandments from
Government buildings.
Ban school prayer. and on and on.
Its only gonna get worse. USA is heading towards being fully anti-christian.

 

I think all religions are nothing more than politics these days. I am Unitarian. Thats the only religion in the Christian faith that doesn't look down on other religions for being themselves. Non-denominational, IMHO, is the way to go. I know there is a God. I know Christ died for my sins and thats that. I graduated from Trinity Christian Academy, a Southern Baptist High School and those poor kids were entirely too sheltered. My senior year there was a girl in my class that had never worn a pair of jeans in her life. Thats just a bit much. I also went to a Pentacostal high school before I transfered to Trinity. That was some of the weirdest stuff I've ever seen. People passing out all over the place, speaking in tongues. That scared me 1/2 to death the first time I saw it. I thought the girl was having a seizure. (sp?)
I think it all comes down to peace of mind. Whatever makes you comfortable. For me, thats subscribing to no particular religion at all. Im a Christian. I don't hate Muslims. I think American Muslims really know the truth about the government and whats really going on in the world. My best friend is a convert. He's not an extremist by any means. He's just like me, but he's muslim.
I've had countless hours of conversation with him about all sorts of different topics and he's actually very smart. He prides himself on being a scholar. He's my best friend and has been for more than half my life...But if he tried to do something crazy (Terroristic) I wouldn't hesitate 2 seconds to put a bullet in his head. I am an American. I don't care for our government AT ALL but I will always stand for Americans over anyone else.

 

I just had to make another post. Kind of odd that the one post I make about religion is the six hundred and sixty sixth post. I can't leave it like that. 667.

 

I hate to pee on everyone's parade but BSL isn't really an issue of federal law. That battle is being fought on the state and local level, and the federal government is not likely to get involved.

 

That is the majority of Muslims views.if you remember they polled Muslims here in this country and the majority agreed with the terrorists or thought favorably of what they are trying to do.now whether they will admit it now or not is a diffrent story.

Muslims keep saying we are a peacefull religion,we are peacefull and we are just being treated unfairly.i say prove that your a peacefull religion the track record speaks for it's self it is not a peacefull religion and they want total word domination,a one world religion and if you don't do it your killed.

like i said all you have to do is read the bible. if you don't accept the false religion you will be beheaded,sound familiar people? what do they do to non muslims ? cut their head off,what do they always say they want to do to americans ? cut their heads off.everytime you turn around they are wanting to cut somebodys head off.i say when you prove to me that it is a pecaefull religion that just wants to be left alone then i will change my views,you don't see Christians or anyone else for that matter doing what the muslims have done in the name of their god.so when it is proved to me that it is a peacefull religion then i will be the first to say fine,leave em alone and you have no business treating them any diffrently but history consistenly show it is not a peacefull religion.it is a religion of hate and they will not stop till one of 2 things happen they are either wiped off the earth or they take over the world or at least the USA.

 

lol.well we shall just wait until the day of judgement and until that time we shall both stand firm in our belif's.

 

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I never thought much about Islam. I never even considered switching over to Islam either; I just don’t think I would fit in.

I like pork way too much. I think bacon and ham are a gift from god above and should be looked at as such. I don’t like bean pies, that goes without saying. I have never been in jail/prison so I have not even been asked to join up. Here in rural Michigan there are not a lot of recruitment centers for the religion of peace. (No offence to anyone that joined Islam when locked down, but it is common knowledge that is a hotbed for Islamic recruitment.) Finally, I just don’t look right in a bow tie. I have tried to wear them, but I’m just not built for it.

All joking aside, here are some nifty quotes from the Quran. Sounds like a peaceful bunch of god fearing people to me.


1. On unbelievers is the curse of Allah. (The Cow: 161 )



2. Allah is an enemy to unbelievers. ( The Cow: 15 )



3. The worst of beasts in Allah's sight are the ungrateful, who will not believe. (Spoils of War: 55)



4. Oh ye who believe! The non-Muslims are unclean. (Repentance:17)



5. Oh ye who believe! Murder those of the disbelievers and let them find harshness in you. (Repentance: 123)



6. Oh believers, do not treat your fathers and mothers as your friends, if they prefer unbelief to belief, whosoever of you takes them for friends, they are evil-doers. (Repentance: 20)



7. Humiliate the non-Muslims to such an extent that they surrender and pay tribute. ( Repentance: 29 )

Makes me want to vote twice for Baraka Hussein Obama!!!!!!!!







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