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What if: Dynomite + cottingham

Discussion in 'Breeder Discussion' started by stratos9, May 29, 2010.

  1. stratos9

    stratos9 Banned

    The owners of offspring off Garner's Ch. Dynomite are being lead to believe that this is the Cottingham line of dogs. Then what do all you ones that have proof of this recommend breeding these dogs to. Also has anybody bred as if Dyno was this line, and how did they turn out, what clicks with the Cottingham line. I personally don't know much about them dogs. I guess I was mislead thinking I was getting a pretty good Frisco/Chinaman dog???
     
  2. Naustroms

    Naustroms CH Dog

    whos leading people to believe that? anyways cottingham crosses well into frisco. crosses nice with lonzo too if thats your thing. or you could take it to some good eli or back into a strain of rb. honestly take it to a good dog and you should be fine.
     
  3. stratos9

    stratos9 Banned

    Naustroms: Can you give me a ped. where someone crossed Chinaman/Cottingham. Wish there was a TRUE source that would put this to bed. Do you actually know who bred the dog, I know about "Weight in Gold" getting his CH. title. Then I guess Garner bought the dog, but everyone is looking at Garner for the truth. So who was the Breeder?
     
  4. Naustroms

    Naustroms CH Dog

  5. stratos9

    stratos9 Banned

    You are on the ball. It seems like it's not going to hurt either way. Guess why I ask is I have an Elmo II pup and will probably try the two. Both are linbreed. Double Dyno & Double Elmo II. If you like Chinaman this will have a high %.
     
  6. slim12

    slim12 Super Moderator Staff Member

    it is like any other debate...nobody really knows...but if you look back at the russ buck/TVK dogs that were at the Garner yard...then these triple bred frisco dogs all of a sudden look just like TVK cottingham dogs....it is nothing more than talk because the dogs should be bred on what you them do rather than how someone says they are bred....but that's just me....US1
     
  7. Pirbul

    Pirbul CH Dog

    Anyone seen any Dyno dog with the front like Rusty? That "redboy" elbows? Dont you think this trait would pass to offspring, even more on the doble Dyno dogs?
     
  8. Pirbul

    Pirbul CH Dog

    I know a 75% Rosco 25% Cottingham dog with this trait, i think some littermates were the same so i guess its dominant, showing in offspring as well.
     
  9. Tommygunn

    Tommygunn Big Dog

    Couldn't agree more slim.
     
  10. Yardboy

    Yardboy CH Dog

  11. NobleKnls

    NobleKnls Pup

    "Ralph has been a well kept secret on Bulldog Hill for a few years now. It is time to let the world in on this piece of good news."
    Well kept secret? LOL, I wonder what other secrets they keep on BH?
    The Cham dogs produce dogs that look like dyno and dyno is producing dogs that look more than one cham dog. Ex. How many of you guys are ending up with dyno dogs that look identical to N.C. Rose, Redman, and Redman Jr? I have seen quite a few off of Dyno that look like daughters/sons of bear.
    I hear Garner has quite the collection of frozen sperm. I hate to hear about someone paperhanging, but the man is putting bulldogs out there.:dogkiss::dogdrink:
     
  12. LuvMyBulldogs

    LuvMyBulldogs Big Dog

    I'm no expert and plenty of you on this forum have more ''bulldog'' experience than me; however i was blessed with God given common sense and BULLDOG TO BULLDOG will produce bulldogs. This shit is always gonna be a problem until people realize that rather u like it or not people arent going to give out their recipe's of success. F*** the papers and how they're bred and all that!!! SELL ME A BULLDOG AND I'M HAPPY. If u wanna know how to breed it go back to the breeder. Stop bitching or get the hell outta the dogs. this is part of it and always will be.
     
  13. slim12

    slim12 Super Moderator Staff Member

    i could care less how those dogs are registered...ch. caballo and ch. henry were down around this way...both off dynamite and both looked like ctt'ham dogs...especially the redman stuff....but i would have bred to either of them if the paperwork said lassie and rin-tin-tin...with an out of benji...but that's just me...they were both top notch bulldogs....regardless of their paperwork....that is why it is so hard in this game to lock in on traits...reproduce the past....when you are working with dogs you bought from someone else....and then breed based on the paperwork and not the dog...that is why i always comment on the posts that are tightening a line someone else created...or inbreeding a dog they bought based on what the pedigree suggests they are....breed the bulldogs...everything else will fall into place....US1
     
  14. stratos9

    stratos9 Banned

    Slim12 your making some good discussion, and alot of it helps people.......LuvMyBulldogs this is for you. I got an ole 3 yr. old BULLDOG that runs my yard thinking about letting someone buy her for around a $500.00 ain't got no idea how it's bred but like you said "FUCK THE PAPERS" just breed her to another BULLDOG and everything will be fine, and you will have a BULLDOG. As long as it's a BULLDOG. And everyone was giving their opinions on this dicussion and there was no BITCHING until YOU showed up. Now, how about that BULLDOG in my yard want it, remember don't need NO FUCKING PAPERS???
     
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  15. ben brockton

    ben brockton CH Dog

    i don't think certain folks want there business out in the open. have some fucking respect for other folks, if you want YOUR business talked about fine. but for crist sake leave others names out your mouth. fucking DRY SNITCHES!!!!!!
     
  16. LuvMyBulldogs

    LuvMyBulldogs Big Dog

    I dont have to argue over the computer. we dont do that where im from. We show up and show out. Stratos, u obviously misunderstood what i was trying to say. AND DRY SNITCHING, kiss my ***. i may have got a little over zealous but Im far from a snitch. no need to clog the thread with nonsense i got a PM
     
  17. Caos

    Caos CH Dog


    you're right Ben I agree!
     
  18. stratos9

    stratos9 Banned

    Well I think I'm going to play a Wild Card here. We've built for years and produced some pretty good dogs from crossing the Loposay's "Buster" to Davis' "Boomerang" stuff. I think I am going to breed my Dynomite dog as a "Eli Jr. dog and put it into a doubled up Deloach's "Rocker" dog. This should make Ben B. (mad or happy).I will find out I'm sure. But it's Ch.'s in the 1st and 2nd generation so why not. Think I will Keep all of them and will know if the pups are what Eli x Boomer are should be. Hope "Rocker" is what he's built up to be.LOL!!
     
  19. ben brockton

    ben brockton CH Dog

    rocker was a good'n the rocker / snapper dogs were better. & the otis stuff was the shit.
     
  20. stratos9

    stratos9 Banned

    Ben, just curious how was the "Snapper" dog bred. Cross or a line, and what did she bring to the table.
     

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