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what became of ozzie stephens yard after he passed?

Discussion in 'Breeder Discussion' started by greenzone, Jun 15, 2018.

  1. greenzone

    greenzone Pup

    Just wondering if anyone knows as I've always been curious as to where great stock goes after the breeder passes away,sold off by family or given to trusted friends?
    Been reading a lot of interviews with him from old agdt and he had a lot of outstanding dogs over the years.
     
  2. slim12

    slim12 CH Dog Staff Member

    There were not a ton of dogs by then. As he said, "he was a little long in the tooth" at the time of his death.

    This is a personal opinion, nothing more than nothing less.

    He may have been the best conditioner of all time. Granted he had an awful lot of good dogs but he was the very best at peaking the particular individual dog he was working.

    No one was ever better at saying, "that's enough for today". I'm not sure anyone could ever read a dog better.

    With that said, a lot of his dogs were really good dogs but a lot of his dogs were really good dogs because he was the one standing on top of them.

    In turn, it was hard for another person to breed his dogs and then duplicate/replicate his efforts.

    There was a guy near here that bought a dog doubled on Cholly Boy and Red Ape. He himself was a game plug with average to above average mouth. He threw the same when bred to some Buck/Mayday type dogs.

    The guy that helped me the most with working dogs was good friends with Mr. Stevens and Mr. Stevens dropped a boat load of knowledge on him. He did not mind giving out information as he was very self confident. He was also very confident the next guy would not put the amount of work and effort he did. He knew that and that knowledge was sometimes perceived as being conceited or self centered or even ego driven.

    Sorry for the length. I started to answer the question and the babbling began.

    S
     
  3. greenzone

    greenzone Pup

    hi slim and thanks for the reply,really enjoyed it.
    he seemed to be a divisive character alright but even those he beat seemed to respect him eg whitefoot v cholly boy.
    i realy liked reading his articles and interviews and he was probably right about no-one else putting in the effort like he did.
    it bring up the nature vs nurture argument to me,like if you had a decent dog but he was exceptionaly well looked after and conditioned he could reach his real potential vs a naturally more talented and gifted one who was poorly looked after and conditioned or brought in underweight.
    but in ozzies case as you said he had a lot of outstanding dogs and he put in 100 percent with them.
     
  4. slim12

    slim12 CH Dog Staff Member

    The dogs were really good. I don't want the above post to sound like he worked miracles with sub-par dogs. That would be the furthest from the truth.

    There were a lot of nights where he simply had the better dog. There were also nights where his keep set a pace the other could not maintain. In the end the better conditioned dog came out on top, but a good dog still the same.

    He was one of the best.

    S
     
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  5. YellowJohnJocko

    YellowJohnJocko Big Dog

    I have a great deal of respect for Ozzie Stevens although I never knew or spoke to the man. He bred, raised and conditioned his own dogs. That is an accomplishment in these dogs not many can say they mastered, I believe he did.

    I regret not getting or taking the opportunity to speak to him, a true Dogman that I wish I knew more about for sure.
     
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  6. bamaman

    bamaman GRCH Dog

    Very well said !
     
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  7. slim12

    slim12 CH Dog Staff Member


    This is very, very true. Not many at all.

    Most of my dealings with him were second hand. The guy that helped me most with working the dogs was good friends and they talked often. When they met way back when Mr. Stevens was awfully impressed with the condition, strength, power and pace at a Saturday night get together. At first they compared notes and then in time they traded 'secrets'. The biggest secret they traded is that there are no secrets just hard work and commitment.

    There was a show many years ago in the mountains of Virginia. Both were in attendance. There was a big to do over someone using steroids on their dog and that was the difference between the winner and the loser. One guy told the losing side that he did use steroids and he used a triple stack every day. The first steroid was called knowledge. The second was called effort and the third was called commitment. They should look into those supplements first. (in so many words, not a direct quote)

    And one of my favorite quotes in these dogs is attributed to Mr. Stevens. "No on can tell you what a dog will do next time. But I can tell you what he did last time. And by what he did last time is why I will bet on him next time".

    That's big time.

    S
     
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  8. bandm

    bandm Pup

    Oscar was a tremendous breeder, conditioner, handler and had a great eye for a good dog. I was at JC Shaw's one afternoon just talking and I asked him if for some reason he had to make a breeding using a stud not on his yard, who would he choose. He thought about it a minute or two and he named two breeders that he would contact and use their studs. One of them was Oscar which said a lot.
     
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  9. YellowJohnJocko

    YellowJohnJocko Big Dog

    Yep! Lot of broke fortune tellers in the dogs. lol Great saying.
     
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  10. jstevens

    jstevens Premium Member Premium Member

    GTO, Mr. SHaw and Mr. Bronzie of Pennsylvania have some of the last dogs from O'S yard. Mostly the red ape and ringer stuff.
     

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