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What a sad story.

Discussion in 'Pit Bull News' started by AGK, Nov 19, 2019.

  1. PITPAL1

    PITPAL1 Pup

    Do you by chance know what breed of dogs were being used to hunt the deer?

  2. Fl0w

    Fl0w Pup

    From what I know they used some "anglo français tricolore". That's the french name, it's a cross between french dogs and english foxhound
  3. c_note

    c_note CH Dog

    Any pics?
  4. bamaman

    bamaman GRCH Dog

    Her dog engaged ! She jumps in to break it up!So you can only imagine after this point .
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  5. bamaman

    bamaman GRCH Dog

    She was a Bulldog protecting her child!
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  6. bamaman

    bamaman GRCH Dog

    A very tragic accident is what it was !
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  7. AGK

    AGK Super duper pooper scooper Administrator

    I can't believe I didn't even think about this. I bet your right though. Out of all the scenarios I've read, this seems the most logical.
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  8. slim12

    slim12 CH Dog Staff Member

    All breeds will have some sort of human aggression at some point.

    Instead of reading the actual article, or researching the story, I commented on what was posted here. I guess that means I am a qualified journalist for just about any publication out there. LOL

    If her dog(s) engaged, and one out of 40 had some human aggression issues, and coupled with the pack mentality, I guess it is possible, maybe even likely in that situation.

    I am with Bama tho, I have never seen a pack of hunting dogs do anything remotely close to this. Maybe the strangest was a pack of small beagles ran under a fence and killed a just born calf. And that is a stretch, then to go to the next level and kill a person is a much further stretch.

    I guess anything is possible.

    Either way, a sad story. Thoughts and prayers.

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  9. Fl0w

    Fl0w Pup


    I agree with you bamaman, I have the same idea since the beginning. I'm sure those hounds didn't come for the girl, she probably get into the fight to save her dog, tried to take her dog back, get snapped once and then we all now what can happened with a pack.

    It's a mess over here, a lot of people are still trying to incriminate her dog, hunters telling to every media that when they met the husband he told them that his dog was dangerous.

    Two days ago the official were speaking about testing around 90 dogs, no it changed they've only tested around 60 dogs because it seems that the 30 others were not out for the hunt. I have a bad feeling for this story, hunters have a lot of influence over here, one of the hunter that day was the lieutenant capitaine of police. Not one of them want to admit that maybe something could have happened, it's total non sense for all, now they're even saying that at the moment the girl got killed the hunt was not on. On the other side you have some people from villages around that say the hunt had begun since hours. Media are all in now, and more than half of them are relaying wrong informations...

    Sad story, hope the truth will be know soon for the family, can't even imagine how you can get through this.

    Thoughts and prayers for the family.
  10. AGK

    AGK Super duper pooper scooper Administrator

    So what are they suggesting happened? I feel like they are trying to say that her dog attacked her but I read in several different places that her dog was all bit up too. If that's true, do people over there actually believe a dog will attack itself?

    We may never know the truth if your higher ups over there are anything like our our here. Sounds like they kinda are.
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  11. Fl0w

    Fl0w Pup

    You're right AGK, her dogs was wounded. And it has already be proven that Elisa has been bitten by more than one dog. But you know how it is, people believe what they want to believe even if it's a non sense.

    Sometimes you just need to sneak an idea into people's head and they'll do the rest of the work on their own. And everyone know that Bull and terrier breeds are guilty of something the day they take their first breath...

    I just hope her dog didn't put his mouth on her to try to wake her up or something, I really have no idea how a dog would act in that kind of situation.

    That story is gonna bring a lot of shit around here, i can feel it. Animal welfare association all kicked in, they will use that against all kind of working dogs, sooner or later. And if they state that her dog has something to do with her death, people that own a bull and terrier breed will be more and more persecuted and some new BSL will probably arrive.

    As you said we may never know the truth but we'll fight for it, people from all around the world are aware of what happened, familly and people that are close to them are making as much noise as they can.
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  12. bamaman

    bamaman GRCH Dog

    Flow keep us up to date on this Bro.This shit just a tragic accident.This lady jumped in amongst a Hurricane to save her Baby !
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  13. Fl0w

    Fl0w Pup

    I will! For the moment I can't say a lot more, it's really hard now to find GOOD informations, people that are close to her don't communicate much anymore because of the investigation. And media are trying to confuse us, you can read everything and his opposite, it's really hard to know what you can trust.

    All I can say is that they're trying to put all the lights on the Bull and Terrier breeds IMO. I watched the news on the nationnal TV channel on Friday evening, they were speaking about her dogs and called them "attack dogs", lovely right? Then they interviewed one of those so called canine expert... Said that Bull and terriers breeds were bred for fighting, they are ferocious dogs, blablabla... Never said that they've never been bred to be reactive to human or anything like this.

    Curtis, her dog, is still locked up, we don't have any informations about him.

    We'll have to wait some time before the results of the DNA tests, something like 3-4 weeks maybe. It seems a lot to me.

    Since this shit happened, as far as I know no one in France is looking for a pack of wild dogs.

  14. PITPAL1

    PITPAL1 Pup

    Thank you for the update. Does France have any BSL anywhere in the country?
  15. PITPAL1

    PITPAL1 Pup

    Do you know if that breed of dog they were using has any human aggression traits? I know the English fox hound is a wonderfully sweet animal, just like most of the coon hounds here in the states. I wonder if the cross into the French breeds didn’t cause some aggression towards humans? I have not found much info on the breed.
  16. Fl0w

    Fl0w Pup

    As far as I know they are lovely dogs. And this is actually the argument of the hunters, their dogs are nice, raised with kids, they would not even show some teeth to men, they are hunting with them this way since decades and NEVER one of their dogs bit anyone.

    And yes we do have BSL around here. Some breeds are not recognized like the Apbt and the Boerbull. If you have an unregistred dog that looks like AST or SBT (pit bull type), Tosa (tosa type) or Mastiff (boerbull type) you can have some trouble. They can ask you to go to the vet and take mesurements of your dogs. For example to be labelled as a Pit bull type a dog must be :

    - between 35 and 50cm at the shoulders (13.8 and 19.7 inch)

    - between 18 and 40kg (39.6 and 88.2 lbs)

    - have a thoracic perimeter between 60 and 80 cm (23.6 and 31.5 inch)

    - look powerfull, short hair, strong jaw, ....

    If an unregistred dog fit all this he will be labelled as a Pit bull type dog and you can have trouble. Then it will really depends where you live in the country and who you are. If you live in a big city and already have trouble with the justice it can go really bad for you and your dog. If you're an average man living in a rural place they'll probably let you own the dog under a few conditions.

    Then there's a law for some specific breed. If you own a registred AST, Tosa, Rottweiller or an unregistred dog that looks like a Rottweiler you'll have to be more than 18 years old and follow a formation with a expert to have the right to handle it and the dog will have to be on leash and muzzled when you're in a public place, always.

    This is more or less how it works in my country.
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  17. david63

    david63 CH Dog

    The politics pretty much works the same way here in the US too
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    blueboy Big Dog

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