Well i guess it is time

never seen him but i have heard some damn fine things about him.i mean his record speaks for it's self a 16xw thats damn impresive in my book.and considering a lot of the time he was matched inton something bigger and still won that speaks for the caliber of this dog alone.Earl considered this dog to be his best dog in fact he had such faith in this dog he left him open to any size bracket.so that speaks for it's self as well because if Earl said he was the best by damn i wouldn't question him.

 

well i think you know as many as i do,lol.when it comes to him i don't think i could say anything that hasn't been said before.but i will say this a better man you could not ask for,fair and honest and a top notch dogman.

 

well that was a fine little dog that Bill had there.he was excellent in the pit in my opinion as well as most.but it was a stroke of luck for Bill and there is nothing wrong with that.he was sold to Bill in 80 or 81 i belive for 35 dollars wich is how the dog got his name.Bill was pretty spent from a night of drinking the night before and he almost didn't even look at the animal.but a younger man in the area knew he was involved with these dogs and needed money so he knocked on Bills door.now the man who sold this dog to Bill was also involved with these dogs and had matched 35 before in fact Bill seen this dog before when this man was walking him one time but all he knew was his friend gave him to him in New Mexico.but anyways he wanted to get rid of the dog because he got into trouble and was going to prison and instead of just giving it to anyone he picked Bill because he knew he was involved with the dogs.but Bill almost didn't take the dog because he didn't know how it was bred and he was still antsy from his problem he was having.but he decided to take the dog for 35 dollars.so he took it and put him in a cage in the basement for the first day or two then he wormed the dog and gave it a good going over and he got rid of the ticks it had and such.i remember he said he had quite a tick problem and was underfed in his opinion but turned out the dog had a good dose of worms wich was making it skinny looking.but he figured he wated that money on this thing till he let him have a go with a couple of his other dogs and see just what he could do and then he knew he had infact been blessed with a good dog and he got it at a steal at that.he tried to breed 35 once or twice i belive but he never did produce to well wich is what you can run into with a dog of unkown background.thats the whole point of a pedigree not to judge gameness or anything like that but judge what might work to cross your dog into because of whats behind it.now myself i would have tried a couple litters but i would have kept and in the event they didn't work out cull every single pup out of that litter.i forget off the top of my head who he bred him to but i think he tried at least twice with no good results.more than likely nothing you haven't read or been told before but the reason for that is not a whole lot is known about the dog and pretty much we all know the same thing when it comes to this little dog.but even though he didn't produce he was a fine animal in my opinion just on his pit ability alone.

 

me and him really didn't see eye to eye so i am just going to leave it at that,lol.

 

well what can be said about Don Mayfield champion breeder,handler and about the best conditioner to ever walk the face of the earth.we used to have a saying if you have a dog you have your doubts about take it to Don and he will turn it into a champion so that speaks for his handleing skills and conditioning skills right there.he was ought by every dogman around him at some point and time for something.he was Taught by a man named George saddler who was also one of the tops in my opinion and since Don was schooled by him as was many others that also should speak for Mr Saddler,i remember he told me he spent a entire spring and summer working for Mr Saddler on his yard just to learn some conditioning from him.Mr Saddler was one of the few who could take a average nothing special dog and match it into a great dog and win on nothing but the way it was conditioned he was that good.but what he learned from the likes of saddler,tudor,and the likes was always improve upen what you learn take it and make it better but more importantly make it your own.and thats just what he did with emmense success.but he was also a good man who was honest,friendly,funny and just loved life.he was a good farmer among other things but his heart was the bulldogs and he was so good at them when he was in his prime that only the very top dogmen could compete with him.most any real famous dog ol Don had his hand in it some way or another whether it was giving advice and tips or actuall getting his hands on them.but the biggest change i have seen in todays dogs versus yester years dogs is quailty when bred right the dogs of today are better then your average ones back when i was young.and there is a very simple reason for that anyone can be anywhere today in a matter of hours or a day.so everyone wanting to compete in hog hunts and competions have got to be that much better than they were say 50 years ago.back then all the dogs really had to compete against was other dogs in their area but now a days they have to compete with dogs from all over the world.but i see a lot of changes in the way they are bred now a days and thats not for the better.but when they are bred right i would say the dogs of today are of a little higher quailty than the dogs of yester year.but that just my opinion.now by Eli do you mean Eli or Eli Jr? a lot of folks just call either eli.

 

Great story thanks,I think he changed the game with his keeps,a great dogman.Now bout eli and how was he truly bred ,was he solely bred off mr.f.b. or was he bred with another dogman dog .cause the other dogmen said that when they saw mr.f.b. with eli at a show that eli looked just like his dog that was bred to mr.f.b., to the one that the litter had died and that eli was off his dogs and not his and that mr.f.b. changed the ped.just wanted to know if you knew or heard what really went on.Thanks

 

Great story on RUSHIN BILL'S GR. CH. "35" thank for sharing!

If ya'll want to extended version visit....

http://www.pbreporter.com/grch35art.htm.

 

bump....so what do u say jesse

 

Earl considered this dog to be his best dog in fact he had such faith in this dog he left him open to any size bracket.Wow.... well, thats a sure sign for a 101% Bulldog.

 

Old timer,

I would give anything just to be a fly on the wall back in the old days.

 

Klatsch!!

 

My deepest respects....

http://www.game-dog.com/forums/showthread.php?t=23282

 

Welcome back from the dead Old Timer

Now how about some more stories

 

Old Timer - back when sporting your dog was legal, what was the gamest scratch you ever witnessed?

(mods lemme know or edit it for me if it's an inappropriate question...didn't think it broke any rules as i'm sure his stories are before present laws were passed and his reply would be for historical and educational purposes, only )

also, any stories about mr. hammonds dogs maybe? i know he has primarily catch dogs now; i spent some time talking to him on the phone about his patterdales very recently, as i'm very interested in that breed, and he seemed to be a very pleasant man and was a treat to talk to.

 

well he was a excellent dogman but on the rest i plead the 5th,lol.

 

i think i posted this allready in this thread but i ain't for sure.now hammonds dogs were pretty decent dogs and his patterdales are also very nice.i don't think you could go wrong with it.

 

hey OT you got anything on Ch Charlie?

 

after you reply about ch. charlie, scratch your head and see if you can remember anything you'd seen or heard about ch. wise's maximillian or his sire red devil (iron dusty).

i've been told there's a story in an old mag about how his named got changed form iron dusty to red devil b/c of a show in ky or tn, can't remember which.

and/or cotton's bullet.

thanks!

 

well on charlie i don't think i seen that dog so i can say anything good or bad about him.now it seems to me your more interested in red devil (AKA Creeds Iron Dusty) so i will tell you about him.ol red devil was a 8xw down from neblett/colby stock.Danny Gibson thought very highly of this animal as did most others because he was one of the most game dogs that anyone had seen in quite sometime.but Gibson has been quoted as saying that he never seen a dog gamer than this one and that it lives on in the dogs offspring and that rings ture to this very day.here is a pedigree for ya if you ain't seen one allready.the breeding behind this animal is pretty decent if you ask me.
http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=979

 

O.T. who's was telling the truth, Mr.Mayfeild or Mr.F.B. ? in your opinion.