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(WCC'S) Kitten's Devil Deacon R.O.M.

Discussion in 'APBT History' started by ohpitbulls, Jan 15, 2011.

  1. rockey

    rockey Big Dog

  2. deisel

    deisel Pup

    i like the way that dog is bred.
     
  3. Iron Mike

    Iron Mike CH Dog

    I owned two other Red Boy dogs.
    1. was Blitz I got her from Scott when him and Rob had a falling out.
    I also got Jackel who was off Bingo and Bliss (sister to Ch. Tramp & Tab R.O.M.)
    Over the years I had a lot of Red Boy crossed dogs like Woodall's Crash who grandfathers were Hunter Red R.O.M. and Long's Weirdo R.O.M.
    He was Red Boy on top and Jeep on bottom.
    I let Steve use him on some breeding and then I took him up here and placed him at ICC where he died.

    I gave Blitz to Barbwire Steve with the terms of her being bred to a pure Red Boy male I would take the pick of the litter.
    Steve sat in my driveway when I took what I wanted.
    I also let Steve take Jackel. I heard Steve was trying to sell her and I went and got her with Lab Rat. He had her for a short while because I wasn't really into Red Boy blood.
    When the male grew up off Deacon/Blitz I bred him to Jackel. It produced Hockeyman's Girly who had a lot of heart. I also sent some to the owner of Gr. Ch. Chance off Maverick. He let another guy get them. The male was first class. I ran into T.L. & Bobby S. at an AADR show and both asked me if those dogs were really bred that way and I said yes, why?
    Both said the male is one of the best dogs they had seen in 20 years!
    I sent both Jackel and Tramp to AL. where the ass poisoned Tramp with 7 Dust around his water bowl.
    I bred Jackel to Ch. Gambler. Only had 3 pups which I lost track of.
    I sent Jackel to Maine to Cedar Brook Kennels old place and the guy there just used her up. Over 2:45. many times long time and with did hunts back to back.
    She ended up at Rick's (Pit Stop Kennels). Ricky called me and told me that bitch was on death's door step and could barely walk. Rick got her around and bred her to Ch. Mechanic.
    Then, I believed she passed away at Rick's.

    I took Cream to Bailey's with Rob P. and we also took Fletcher DG (litter mate to Meat Man's Don King 2xw). They were off Deacon and Bliss. Cream was a 10 minute cur at B.B.'s place. Blitz didn't have the power like Jackel. I knew this and her only 20 minutes. Jackel was a dam good bitch.
    The thing about Blitz was, she through good dogs when bred to Deacon but not when she was crossed to dogs like the cur Briar (Ch. Bramble's son).
    If my memory is correct, the dog which mauled Steve so bad was a grandson to grandmother breeding off Blitz.

    Another female I got for Steve was a female Jessie Boggs and I checked name Roxy.
    In fact we check her and all her litter mates.
    Roxy didn't have what it took to be showed.
    Steve called and wanted a good brood bitch to breed Ch. Bramble too.
    I got him Roxy. The best off Roxy was when she was bred to Ch. Bramble and produced Ch. Princess, Black Star 2xw, ect. My favorite was a female I had here,
    her name was Turtle Head 1xw. Dam good bitch but she blew out her ACL and couldn't take another Keep.

    When Roxy was bred to Red Boy dogs I personally didn't care for them. Ch. Willie I understand was pretty good but some of the rest I saw weren't, like in the Ch. Johnnie Jr. thing ect.
    Also Roxy was bred to Bingo. Troubles was brought up here and was bred to Ch. Gambler. 10 pups and Steve couldn't find his way to send one my way. Good thing, half were mutts and the others were okay, some better then others.
    THEN Steve decides to check Trouble fully out. She was a cur.
    Her litter mate brother Ringo was just average.
    Again, no mouth.
    Hockeyman brought Ginger down here and bred to Ch. Gambler. Again the same thing but the mutts from that litter were real bad!. The good ones, were real good.
    Again a free breeding for a friend who didn't know what he had. Ginger was a 15 minute cur. Ginger's mother was off the Blitz to Bramble's cur son.
    The brother/sister breeding of the dogs off Deacon/Blitz produced dogs with a lot of heart but didn't have heavy mouths. This was true with Blitz. This was also true with a lot of inbred Deacon dogs and Hunter Red dogs.

    The last, I did try to breed Jackel to Deacon. She didn't take because of Deacon.
    It is an experience I would like to forget.
    In all my years with these dogs, when I went to WCC to breed Jacke, thisl was one of the worst times I have ever been treated as a guest to another dogman's house!
    I was treated better when B.L. got out and I was up there collecting on the free breeding rights I had on Ch. Luca from Yankee Greg.

    Until next time............ I.M.
     
  4. Iron Mike

    Iron Mike CH Dog

    Okay, I have to ask rotflmmfao!
    I understand Heavy Chain claims to have beat Wiremaker with either Phase female or her mother,
    now out of curiosity I have to ask and see if there are any comments. lmao

    He has NOW stated he has also beat the late Wiremarker's ex-partner, Plowboy twice.
    So I want to know, was these 2 wins over stock from Ch. Willie. lmao!
    I did try calling before I posted this. lol

    oh man this is too funny.........
    I had to push your button! ROTFL
     
  5. benthere

    benthere CH Dog Staff Member

    Heavy Chain sure has an active imagination. Talk is cheap a decade late when the parties invovled are dead & out of dogs.
     
  6. Lonewolf

    Lonewolf Big Dog

    X2. Someone is desperate for attention.lol.
     
  7. Iron Mike

    Iron Mike CH Dog

    Amen!
    I'm just waiting to hear my turn with him. lol lol
    H. C. needs to quit smoking that cheap stuff that has been treated. lmao
     
  8. woodall

    woodall Pup

    crash was one of the best red boy dogs ive ever seen and def the best ive ever owned i wish i had him back
     
  9. C2K

    C2K Top Dog

    Some where along the line at Wiremaker, Delmar's, ect. he picked up a bad case of Babesia.
    He was old too.
    ICC has dogs sire by him alive.
     
  10. Iron Mike

    Iron Mike CH Dog

    Joe,
    When I picked Crash up from Lonnie he had a bad case of whipworms.
    I gave some Meds to Steve and Steve treated him and gave him a good home.
    Steve did some line breeding of him to his grand daughters, ect.
    In fact I think their sire was Ch. Weird Jack.

    About a month or so before Steve died I picked up Crash and took him to Jim.
    Jim gave him a good home.
    Jim bred him to some of his Wildside dogs.
    Hockeyman bred to him with some of his dogs from WCC.
    During a course of testing some of the dogs, Crash was tested to have Babesia,
    thou none of his pups tested to show they had it.
    Jim has a really nice male off Crash.

    At the time and up to April on 2009 Adam stated in Vet's Forum Magazine there was no cure for Babesia.
    Jim had to put down a few really good dogs. Ole Man was another one.
    Since you know who owned both at one time or another you have a good idea where it most likely it came from.

    Crash was up in age and was a bit of problem getting around on his back legs.
    Other then that he wasn't suffering.
     
  11. Blackpoison

    Blackpoison CH Dog

    im sick of your posts now iron mike
     
  12. Iron Mike

    Iron Mike CH Dog

    To bad, do something about it...
    Or learn to live with it.
     
  13. Blackpoison

    Blackpoison CH Dog

    i was just joking.. lol love your posts man
     
  14. Iron Mike

    Iron Mike CH Dog

    I was wondering what I did to piss you off. lol
    I'm not one of these people who quote stories from a book, I can only tell what I see or think from my own experiences.
    Glad we're cool. I really don't come on here with the intent to start crap with people.
    But some are thick skinned these days.
    Times are hard and people have other things which are stressing them out so they are a lot quicker to go off..........

    BTW, your handle. I knew a guy in MO. who had a pretty good dog with that name. :)
     
  15. Blackpoison

    Blackpoison CH Dog

    yeah well good luck with RED HOT.... too bad im all the way in australia
     
  16. Keep posting Iron Mike. I have always been a big fan.
     
  17. ben brockton

    ben brockton CH Dog

    deacon was set down? is that what your saying?
     
  18. Dream Pits

    Dream Pits CH Dog

    Never heard that but from my understanding he was a good dog
     
  19. benthere

    benthere CH Dog Staff Member

    WTF are you talking about??!!!?? Sounds like another retarded rumor. Just like Jeep was 2 dogs or that he died after his last match. Please do let us know when you get the full details...I am dying to hear them.
     
  20. Iron Mike

    Iron Mike CH Dog

    Correct me if I'm wrong Benthere, but when I saw Deacon he had all his teeth, what about when you saw him?
     

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