(WCC'S) Kitten's Devil Deacon R.O.M.

I look up to Lou for the man he was, not what he did or did not do. Some things do not impress me.
When Lou started to register - I am not sure, but can find out with a quick call - which I will ask next time I actually do call the fella. probably not today, I gotta go take care of my dogs, been a busy day.

thanks for the info yall!!!

 

Thanks for straightening that up ! It does make for a lot nicer pedigree and probably a lot better gyp. I figured you would know what was what as you are pretty close to this line of dogs and their breeding. Funny how that dog w/o the Gr Ch or Ch in front of its name is a lot of times a better producer but people seem to want that pedigree w/ all the big names and titles in it. My only concern through life has been finding honest dogmen and honest dogs - and I agree about the "TRUTH" ... only liars are concerned with it so they know how to get around it !

Olddog

 

LOL - I'm glad I'm not the only one who has those "senior moments" ! As a good friend of mine used to say "As long as I can find my way home at night I consider it a good day." !!! I guess she's another one of those black dogs that popped up out of two unsuspecting parents - oh well - I still like her looks and I think she may have had some decent - if not quite so spectacularly papered - parents.
Your gonna love this one : song senior moments brain farts - Bing Videos

Olddog

 

I have looked it up many times. Remember where I live. Hell I remember when Bennett's daughter ran the place over on State Street.
In fact I need to be over there this month so if there anything you wish to know email or PM me.

 

I have read that too. Check your references before repeating it. I already dispelled one written myth about who had Lightner dogs.
All those dogs I know the pedigree on and had heard about them from the Corvino family, and I guess you also knew Mike the Irishman Ferris who had a littler mate to our dog Mokena name Little Chief.
Don't forget my long history with Storklind Kennels. I also knew John at X-pert Kennels.
BTW Clouse's Big Boy wasn't a grand champion.


http://www.ironlinekennels.com/Page_70_Miscel/IMAG0010.JPG


Now I don't see the point. The fact remains John P. Colby never registered his dogs with UKC as American Pit Bull Terrier.
John thought the dogs came from the same foundation dogs as the English Bull terrier.

 

Hi H,
I remember when Keith drop off Beetle Juice at Bob's. He drove over and stopped by.
I got him started in dogs. Bob bought half interest in the dog for $2,500.


Turtle Girl, the mother of Roxy R.O.M., mother of Stone City Ch. Reddy, Mother of Don Q 1xw, Lizzy Borden 1xw, etc. was never bred to that dog.


Her mother was Tiger Girl who was bred by Robert Butcher in Oh. I had been to his place in Athens a few times. I saw Tiger Girl Dead at Ron's place in Flint when Jessie Boggs and I picked Lizzy up.
When Turtle Girl was bred to Iron Gunner, the only way you could tell the difference was by the size of the 2 dogs. same copper red.
ALL breeding after she left Flint was done by Jessie Boggs, Lab Rat never bred her. Ron bred once to Fargo, Boggs always claimed the sire was really Ch. 410. Why is because none of the pups looked like Don Q, Shorty and the rest. He did have a very good point. The first breeding of Turtle Girl and Fargo was done by Lupe O. who we got the rest of the repeat breeding from in Lansing, Jessie Boggs and I, down from Soldens on M99.


Turtle Girl was killed in a kennel fight at an older age with Hunter (Mother of Ch. Oscar) double cross daughter of Ch. Gambler out on Mudd Lake house of Lab Rat's mother's beach house.

 

BTW McCoy remind me and come to the May 3rd show for OFRNR and I will show you Bloodline Journals from, my grand father, from the 1940's where Bennett would ban for dual registering.
No place better then right from the person who owned UKC.

 

Really no need to check the refferences, i cited the book number in my post as a refference for that reason.
The book had That Clouse dog in it as a GR CH, which could have been mistaken also.
I wish that author was here to clearify for us.

Also - I did notice that Colby's Primo was actually registered three ways.
http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Public&file=printPedigree&dog_id=865

They were not kicked out of the UKC, as they registered their stock after Primo, per Primo Jr.
http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Public&file=printPedigree&dog_id=1955

and many were registered with them after that, up until today.

 

:Insanity:Im So glad you posted that for Iron Mike ! So there it is in Black & White. Mike just admit that your info is wrong ! As we all can see.......:butbutbut: LMFAO !!!

 

That is my point, just because it is wrote in a book doesn't make it so.
You are using "Online Pedigrees" use the Registries!!!


And so you know, - in a UKC number means it was single registered. It is when there is a , in the number you know it is PR bred.
You got the wrong Primo.
On your Online Pedigree states he was going to be used as the foundation for American Staffordshire Terrier.



People need to quit repeating Online Garbage and go to the registries.........

 

"Online Pedigree" states it, then it so? rotflmmfao @ ur (_?_)
My information comes directly from UKC registry. Trump that kid......

 

I asked K.G. about Gale. With his name on so many of K.G. type stock I would have thought they knew each other better.
K.G. stated he only met him once and sold him a pup when he did. That is why they met, he came to pick up the pup but it wasn't at K.G. yard.
Most don't know but Ch. Red Dog wasn't kept at with K.G.
Most of the time and breeding were done over at Gary Jacoby's house.
I also noticed on the pedigree Ginger Snap, nope Susie Que, Jessie Boggs bred Ch. Red Dog.
Jessie called K.G. online on the old Turtle Buster forum on Network54.
He was stud fee after K.G. was busted in 1988.

 

BTW H,
Hockeyman and I took Gottie to Dr. Shultz in Okemus for collection. He is an ICG vet for the area.
The Vet told Donny and I the dog was sterile and would never be able to produce.
This is why Ready to Rumble (part of CCM) sold the dog off and was never bred by either one of them.
Gottie was a very game dog but wasn't a Pit Dog or worth a bet.


So that is about all I know of that pedigree of which I personally saw.........

 

Ok then....Mike. We will just take your word instead !!!:protestsign:LMFAO !!!

 

Did you ever see the dog or see him go? NADA so I guess you will have to take my word or unless you know Hockeyman or Ready To Rumble as I do. If you do, you can ask them yourself.


LOL it must really grind your ass..........lol


You are a nobody who knows nothing about real dogs or known dogs of the past or today.
Sad thing is, when a person is only a cyber sissy, they never will.


maybe someday you find out what you are but the rest of us already knows.........:lol:

 

When you can't back your statements with Facts, just laugh it off.

It's easier that way instead of arguing the post.

 

cant take a way what THE mala dog done thow LOL