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vietnam kennels war keep !

Discussion in 'Training & Behavior' started by nmdogs, Aug 11, 2015.

  1. Mudville_Monsta

    Mudville_Monsta Top Dog

    I hear ya on the hitting the scale part. Nobody wants to lose there...lol. Like I said I'm no expert on conditioning......BY FAR. But I'm making strides at it, and after 4 yrs of nothing to do with the dogs besides having one, one does lose lots of info they used to know. Anyhow, I've always gotten my enjoyment out of these dogs raising them up and bringing them to maturity.
  2. Mudville_Monsta

    Mudville_Monsta Top Dog

    Gotcha. What I should have said or what I meant was focusing on the type of work and not the time or distance itself. Just breaking down the aspects of what was behind the thought process piecing it together. But I'm all ears & eyes fellas. Spill it...lol
  3. sweetscience

    sweetscience Premium Member Premium Member

    @old goat, with total respect to you, what would you do differently. Again I understand each dog is an individual and you may need to alter the keep for each dog. I respect your opinion and insight. Always trying to learn. thanks
  4. old goat

    old goat CH Dog

    really i never seen a reason to change what work any dog does unless it doesn't want to work you have to find things to keep them busy . more time running would be a big start .
  5. slim12

    slim12 Super Moderator Staff Member

    No disrespect to the Vietnam Keep. It is just like any other keep that is written down. It is a guide, nothing more, nothing less. There is no dog man ever, even the greatest of greats, that can write down what a dog needs on the 35th day of a 6 or 8 or 10 week keep. Absolutely impossible. No written keep can ever tell a person where a dog should be two weeks in, three weeks in, etc. etc.

    (using the keep mentioned above) What happens on week 4 and day 5 you complete the assigned tasks and the dog looks up at you, full of energy, wanting more and needing more saying "What's next?". The written keep, anyone's written keep, does not address this. And flip side is even worse, on Week 4 Day 5 is just too much for the dog. He has yet to recover from Day 4. What do you do? Force the assignment on him or rest the dog which throws the schedule out the window.

    The object is to peak the dog on show night not just work him for 6 weeks and go. Use this exact same keep but delete the numbers. Add the numbers each day based on what the dog is telling you. Some times him telling you will be a subtle whisper and other times it will be a brain rattling yell, but he will tell you nonetheless. Afterwards let the 'times' show you the initial work increased, the recovery between sets decreased and the next work load increased. The recovery from one work day to the next will improve as well. Numbers and times are more indicative of conditioning afterwards and should be viewed in a 'critique' type manner.

    Written keeps are a guide, no more no less. S
  6. grove

    grove Big Dog

    Exactly...very good slim12!

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