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Understanding the Carpet Mill by Hunterman

Discussion in 'Training & Behavior' started by Vicki, May 25, 2014.

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  1. Saiyagin

    Saiyagin Chihuahua

    Slim12 you said the bigger dogs didnt do to well on the Grand carpet mill but there is 3 different sizes of Grand carpet mill , small, medium and large I was just wondering/curious which size Grand Carpet mill did you guys own?
     
    Saiyagin, Sep 14, 2014
    #61
  2. slim12

    slim12 Super Moderator Staff Member

    I could be wrong about what they offered but back the I believe it was the Grand and the Grand Deluxe. We had the Grand Deluxe that was for dogs up to like 75-80 or so pounds.


    We had two dogs in the high 50's at the time and it didn't move as well with the two big dogs. All the other dogs it worked fine.


    I am not knocking on the mill. We had a combine thing going and that mill serviced a lot of dogs, plus breaking younger dogs to it. It seen a lot of action, almost daily.


    I liked the mill for the smaller dogs but the bigger ones it just did not transition across the running surface as well. S
     
    slim12, Sep 15, 2014
    #62
  3. Jdll13

    Jdll13 Big Dog

    I looked for a video of postman's mill (EZ Walker) but could not find any.
     
    Jdll13, Sep 15, 2014
    #63
  4. Primitive Supply

    Primitive Supply Big Dog

    My remarks were not meant to offend; on the contrary were meant to suggest that There are probably 50 ways to not shape a dog, (these being the balance of what people do to put their dog in shape, and wind up getting shellacked) and 1 right way. I have found very few that ever share that particular information. In the same way you will see the switching of pedigrees, this is to throw off the competition. Both of these secrects have gone to the grave with the FEW that really know them. PS
     
    Primitive Supply, Sep 15, 2014
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  5. slim12

    slim12 Super Moderator Staff Member

    Agreed. I agree there are fifty ways (maybe more) not to do things.


    I do not mind posting what I know about the certain carpet mills I have experienced in the past.


    One of the problems with sharing is that some will do it exactly to the "T" no matter. There is no written keep nor is there a conditioner who can say what a dog needs on the Thursday of next week on the 43rd day of the keep. People must realize a 'written keep' is nothing more than a guide. A dog doing five minutes on my mill is not the same as five on yours or five on the next.


    The key is to read the dog and no one can learn to read a dog on the internet. Period.


    Best of luck. S
     
    slim12, Sep 15, 2014
    #65
  6. Mudville_Monsta

    Mudville_Monsta Top Dog

    May be a possibility, though PMD in his own words said he has no videos online in a post on peds. Somebody else may have uploaded one though.
     
    Mudville_Monsta, Sep 15, 2014
    #66
  7. Bones1

    Bones1 Big Dog

    I will try and get around to putting my 10+ yr old mill from PMD together this weekend and see if I can get a decent vid.
     
    Bones1, Sep 15, 2014
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  8. mccoypitbulls

    mccoypitbulls Underdog

    Pmd showed us a video in chat one time..
     
    mccoypitbulls, Sep 16, 2014
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  9. ABD456

    ABD456 Big Dog

    you right I'm fairly new with mills. I have had mine since end of last year but it took me ages to get my dogs to start using it besides one that already knew what a mill is and how to use it.

    BTW thanks for the tips. I trying to set up a training plan to use for conditioning, fitness and strength. I have a carpet mill
     
    ABD456, Sep 16, 2014
    #69
  10. Mudville_Monsta

    Mudville_Monsta Top Dog

    No prob, & I'm by far a pro when coming to the carpet mill. I've had mine less time than you. Though I have experience using slat mills and other techniques and tools. With time your eye will get better in knowing when to go harder or to cut back. Just remember every one is different whether it's dogs or equipment & start small and build up slow.
     
    Mudville_Monsta, Sep 16, 2014
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  11. slim12

    slim12 Super Moderator Staff Member

    I have run a lot of dogs across the mills. One of the hardest things to learn is that every dog is different. Very seldom, if ever, can you apply what you did with the last dog and apply it to the next dog. That stumps a lot of people early on when they first start using the carpet mill. The three factors in getting it right is the dog, the mill and the person, in that order.
    1. Every dog is different.
    2. Using only 1 mill eliminates some of the variables when starting out.
    3. The dog will tell you when it is enough for today, and he may wait until tomorrow to tell you. The person must listen. Listening is a hard thing to do for a lot of people. S
     
    slim12, Sep 17, 2014
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  12. Mudville_Monsta

    Mudville_Monsta Top Dog

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    And that's all I got to say bout that.....lol
     
    Mudville_Monsta, Sep 17, 2014
    #72
  13. mccoypitbulls

    mccoypitbulls Underdog

    And that goes for everything dog..feed ..conditioning..location..climate..
    Trial and error are sometimes the only to figure out what is gonna cut the mustard.
     
    mccoypitbulls, Sep 17, 2014
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