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tom garner

Discussion in 'Breeder Discussion' started by Big Dawg, Dec 19, 2010.

  1. GhostDawg

    GhostDawg Pup

    Why anyone would gamble on dogs bought from a known paper hanger is beyond me, now anyone who has bought a dog off of Dynomite in the last 5-6 years may just be you have a pup off of a dog called X who is a well kept secret up there on bulldog hill lol.
     
  2. CHUVALOFAN

    CHUVALOFAN Top Dog

    Not sure about that but it wouldn't shock me, X has been at Tom's for a few years now and he has never advertised a litter from him. From what I heard X didn't come cheap either....
     
  3. F.D.

    F.D. Top Dog

    I just looked at the stud list on Garner's website, but I didn't see a dog named X. This has aroused my curiosity.
     
  4. CHUVALOFAN

    CHUVALOFAN Top Dog

    I doubt there is even a ped of him on peds online and if there is I doubt very much it will say Garner's X
     
  5. treezpitz

    treezpitz CH Dog Staff Member


    Damn, Chuva, your ol lady must have let you out of the cage.lol
     
  6. bluedoglover

    bluedoglover Top Dog

    please....no more! lol
     
  7. CHUVALOFAN

    CHUVALOFAN Top Dog

    Shhhh another hour and she will be home, then I'll get back in and act like I haven't been out. Later this evening she has cards...so fingers crossed.
     
  8. CHUVALOFAN

    CHUVALOFAN Top Dog

    I remember as a boy my Dad (may he rest in peace) caught me ''looking'' at one. Later as we were having a talk (and as an unspoken understanding passed between us that Mom wouldn't hear about what I had been caught doing to Dad's N.G.) he took a look through and found a pic of an older woman, black as the ace of spades, boobs like over filled water ballons hanging softly on her hips and said that was his first wife. I was still pretty young and Dad was always a straight faced joker who spent the next 15 minutes telling me about her. After the talk I can tell you there was no more ''looking'' at Dad's National Geographic's and to this day if I see an older tribes woman I can but picture my dear old Dad in his good work shoes ''havin' at her''. :(
     
  9. Kenaii

    Kenaii Pup

    Garner breeds the balls off of every damn dog on his yard and then sells the pups for an arm and a leg.
    I've seen some Frisco and Chinaman dogs that I'd take in a heartbeat, but I would NEVER buy directly from TG.
     
  10. Naustroms

    Naustroms CH Dog

    Where do you think those dogs came from? There's a reason Garners names rings bells.
     
  11. bluedoglover

    bluedoglover Top Dog

    you sir. have won the internets.
     
  12. titan888

    titan888 Pup

    Ask the right questions and get the right answers.

    How many of you raised as many bulldogs as TG on a yard and kept them healthy?

    How many champions have you owned? How many Gr Ch?

    How many dogs have produced on your own planned Ugenics? Did they become successful or produce valid offspring?

    Now stack your numbers against Mr. TG's then you can talk. Once you attain a certain level then you can say what ever you want.

    The greatest dogmen of all time have all been loved and hated, its the price of success. But they are the ones who are known for all time and dealt with the public. Maurice Carver, Pat Patrick, Mr. Boudreaux.... Mr. TG ....... I dont see your name so start working or get in line.
     
  13. titan888

    titan888 Pup

    People complain about how expensive it is to buy a pup from Mr. TG. How much does it cost to raise a bulldog right over there life? More than the cost of a pup. It helps deter the idoits that cant pay to feed and raise these dogs correctly. How much does it cost to have a ch over it's life?
     
  14. CHUVALOFAN

    CHUVALOFAN Top Dog


    There is the key to success. "I would rather be unknown to the mass and known and respected by the few within". Being a 'house hold name' dogman is not the route any true sportsman with a head on his/her shoulder's would want to lay claim to in these times. Those that seek that kind of fame end up in a bad way, just ask your buddy Tom about his pal JT.
     
  15. Naustroms

    Naustroms CH Dog

    People will sit there with a couple done nothin hounds and throw stones at another mans winning program. At the end of the day all they're left with are excuses
     
  16. CHUVALOFAN

    CHUVALOFAN Top Dog

    The man knows how to breed bulldogs. Do I think people can have his dogs and breed equal to better ? Of course. Imo the best present day 'Garner' blood dog was not bred by Tom. The fact is though that he is a master breeder and is putting out quality dogs...if only they all got into quality hands.
     
  17. slim12

    slim12 Super Moderator Staff Member

    Absolutely incorrect. The price of a puppy has never deterred idiots and it has absolutely never drawn in the better owner.


    The reason they are so expensive has nothing to with raising dogs correctly, or deterring or luring in the right guy.


    It is far more simple than that. When they were $500 they all sold. So he goes to $600 and they all sold. And so on and so on. When they hit a grand and were all gone, guess what? They were then $1100, and again so on and so on.


    Mr. Garner is a businessman, a great breeder, but a better business man. They will go up in chunks of $100 til they stop selling. When bulldog hill has puppies rolling down both sides the price will then drop. Til then watch the price continue to rise.


    Easy formula. Sell a lot of puppies. When the ones make titles buy them back. Breed them again and sell some more puppies. Your name is automatically associated with winning dogs although it was some other dude riding up and down the road. His reward is he is paid/overpaid for another dog with a golden cod sack.


    And that is not a slight on Mr. Garner. I think he is brilliant and should be teaching a business class in a Master's Program somewhere. He may be the smartest dog man ever. He seen a market that could be exploited and he has exploited it beyond anyone's wildest imagination.


    I like his dogs. I love his agenda.


    S








     
  18. Kenaii

    Kenaii Pup

    I should've rephrased that; I don't like how Garner is breeding right now.
    Every dog on his yard has been bred at some point, or will be bred in the future. How many of them have titles of any kind? Not a single one.
    I'll admit, I'm no breeder, but you don't have to be one to realize something's up when TG claims every damn dog he has is "THE TIGHTEST FRISCO BRED DOG ALIVE."
     
  19. CHUVALOFAN

    CHUVALOFAN Top Dog

    Not a single one ??? Um ok lol. None he has titled himself is about all. Man what is it with uneducated posts today ???
     
  20. treezpitz

    treezpitz CH Dog Staff Member

    And people get too caught up with "titles". I want a bulldog, F*** a title.
     

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