to cull or not to cull

That bloke decided he'd go the wrong way about it. Who in their right mind would drown or shock a dog when .22 bullets are cheap as fuck!? I can't see why you'd do time for culling the right way EG swift and quickly. As far as I know, what you choose to keep and what you choose to dispose of on your property is no one elses buisness. Or you could just take them for a hunt they never return from Cull for quality in future gen's!

 

a reputation is the last thing you should be breedin for

 

you can drop a cow with a 22cal. long rifle. so that would be the cleanest way to do it...

 

I would like to point out to "cull" and to "kill" are completely different terms. To "cull" a dog simply means you are removing that dog from your breeding program because it exhibits undesirable characteristics you do not want to pass along. It doesnt matter if you put a bullet in his head, neuter him, not neuter him but never breed him, or whatever. The terms do not mean the same thing. To put an unworthy dog down is simply a way to "cull" not the same thing.

 

Man it means the same thing, the process of Culling means Killing animals with undesirable traits.

 

I beleive "to kill" is just one of many methods to cull.... PLenty ways to skin the fore...lol The diff methods of culling will vary frm one to another.

 

when culling a responsible breeder will cull out the crap and keep the goods

if its not good for breeding or showing why keep it? or burden others with the left overs,

point is clean your mess up if you breed and produce dogs, wanted or not,

and fixing dogs and rehoming are expensive options! not sure down ther, but its like $300 for female spaying and like $150-200 for male castoration of dogs here, goes by weight i think...

but if you have an umlimited funds , by all means fixem all and rehome them! but i dont think i like assosiating with others enough to become a part resue operation and kennel owner, rehoming retired dogs makes more sence to me, they worked for there keep and deserve house-living in the end,

but to find homes for culled dogs and keep good ones outside in the yard dont make sence to me either, maybe thats the farmer in me!:cool:

 

actually most spca's will fix pits for free. but that aint the point, the fact is once you look at a dog u may ruin it for the next person.

now i dont think i would give a reject to a straight pet home, but i would shoot one to a pig hunter or someone in some other sport.

 

I agree Buck, and I am not saying don't "kill" the culled dogs, I am simply stating the term was being misused in the post to cull and to kill are NOT are not the same term

 

so is that why the pounds are overloaded? people are to weak to clean up there unwanted animals?

when i cull the rabbits i dont rehome them.....

and if you ever gave a culled hound to someone what do you think there going to do with it? wonce found unusable?

i think killing an unwanted animal is more humane than passing the hot potatoe till it hits the pound chewing sorees cause of anxiety and unrestlessness JMO

 

i agree but reputation comes with a great line of dogs you know if you got a fire ass line of dogs your going to have the reputation for making that line example would be the colby line if they were to sell shit dogs then the colby reputation would be shit the way i said it was explaned wrong sorry for the confusion
hope this helps some

 

lets face it not many rehome situations fare out well. im sure theres a lot, but not enought to save them all, and breed expecting the culls to have pet homes, breeding involves killing the weak and undesired ones. if you cant kill/cull then dont bother breed i figure.

 

for personal pride to obtain worthy, workin stock. i think i hear what your sayin...

your dogs will make your reputation, let them show others you know what your doing

 

I agree buck! How long till that hot potato gets culled by another once he/she realises it's useless for what they want!? How long till that hot potato becomes a "nuisance" animal to society!? How long till that hot potato's gonna bite you on the ass for your own and someone elses negligence! Some dogs just can't be passed on to "old mate" cos they didn't make the cut. Put it this way, Would you want an "undesirable" dog from a breeder? Fuck no!
So why re- home your shit on someone else? Sure, some might make great lap dogs. But there are breeds better suited to that sort of regime.

 

at what age would you cull ???

 

This is a damned good question that I would appreciate some thoughtful answers on.
Right now, I have woods and a gun if needed.
However, I've been in a situation where I needed to put an unstable fear-biter down and I could not find help anywhere. My own vets who had known me and my dogs for years gave me bullshit lectures about behaviorists. Every vet in my area basicall asked if I was out of my mind and hung up. I found one vet that would do it,...and that was because I had an in with his tech who explained the situation. Even animal control gave me shit about putting down "healthy dogs." Now, I could have dropped the dog off as a stray, but it would have waited around for three days not knowing what happened, or been taken home by someone who saw a damned good looking dog, but didn't know it was scared shitless of certain things and would go ballistic for no good reason.
Believe me, taking care of a dog at home when you could get arrested for "unlawful discharge of a firearm, "animal cruelty, or whatever else if a neighbor could see or hear is not easy. That shit turned out to be one of the most undignified acts of my life and my personal "never go there again" point when it comes to dogs. So, seriously, not that I'm asking anyone to say anthing ignorant or reveal anything incriminating, but I would appreciate some suggestions on how to go about explaining your needs to a vet, etc., or finding an alternative method that is humane and honorable. Like I said, some of the cats around my way were forced to pay someone just to drop off their dogs because animal control took id, and sent literature on "responsible pet ownership" to your house after the fact. Thanks.

 

Dont ask, dont tell...

 

My question stems from a similar situation HCH.

I had a super man aggressive dog, who I decided needed to be put down. He was a liability as far as I was concerned. I got into an arguement with my own vet, who insisted I try MORE of the smae things I had already tried. He was a house dog, so I DID go to trainiers, etc, who all ended up advising to put him down.

I ended up having to drive over an hour to a rural vet that did it without question. BUT that was still expensive, over $100. I mean it's not THAT much, but to dispose of a dog? One bad litter could cost you over a grand...

Culling on your own, aint legal where I'm from. And I'd HATE to lose the all the good dogs, cuz someone found out I got rid of the bad ones...

 

Could'nt agree more !!!!!! Its nobodies business what goes on behind closed doors, trouble is to many want to yap and show off what they are doing. Then they wonder why the authorities are kicking off their doors and culling all their dogs and they are getting jail time.

 

fixing and rehoming to me is the most humane thing to do if it fails to do the job it is bred for.lets be honest 99.9% of pit bull owners don't use there dogs for working purposes.in my opinion if the dog has a soiled temperament and free of defects it shouldn't necessarily have to die just because its cold or a cur.now I'm not saying put an add on craigslist and give them to the first yahoo who responds,but if your gonna breed i think its a big part of your responsibility to make sure every dog in that litter has a home (even the ones that don't work out). i say fix'em and let them live out there lives as a family pet.