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Discussion in 'Pit Bull News' started by StopBSL, Jan 12, 2009.

  1. StopBSL

    StopBSL Top Dog

    I have a hard time with these news reports. Often times they lie. I know with to dogs in Arizona they reported all sorts of fallacies and when it came time for court the vet statements were different than those originally shown the the defendants.

    I hope that none of the abuse or neglect is true- and from what I've heard from friends of Stephanie it can't be.

    I don't know. . but I do believe in INNOCENT Until proven Guilty. . . above all else.
     
  2. performanceknls

    performanceknls Top Dog

    You can all pass judgment how you see fit but this case is wrong in just about every way. The dogs did have vet attention and she does have doc for that. Most of the injuries were caused by AC!!! That letter from a shelter worker is BS!!! What kind of shelter worker or shelter at all can sit there and watch 2 dogs kill each other! If they were at their home where they belonged they would not be dead. The "dog's dropping like flies" were all victims of the AC because they put them in the same runs. THAT IS HOW THEY DIED!!! She raised hell at the shelter when she found out. They tried to hide the fact they had no room at the shelter to care for these dogs. Now you tell me who the monster is!!

    Masstifjs you can try to bad mouth her all you want but you are being fed lies! This thread is for support for for her if you want real fact please feel free to pm me.

    from TNT

    ok, this is not what happened ,there was no vet, but my vet told them it was old kennel accidents, yes there were beauty marks on dogs, there was food & water, but I had severe problem with crazy people who caused all this, which was told to the bill hunter dude and many other cops, that every time I come home there’s something moved not just one but 4 or 5 water buckets dog houses, and even dog food stolen from my house, this has been 3 months of hell, there was only 2 bitches thin but I received those thin from new york, by transporter and there was 3 but I gave one away, and later found out he died ,I'm not sure what was wrong with those dogs but they were near death when received and every time I would get weight on them a week or so then over night they would loose weight, and Jeff and Stephanie can vouch for that, and others new those were the only dogs with problems, all my others were ok, maybe not hog fat but in working condition, and none of my babies were dead, but a week at the shelter and now I have dead dogs, due to fighting, (AC put them in the same kennel) I will continue this later but they are lying, I gave Mr. hunter my phone number because all the calls they made on me Mr. hunter new they were bogus, so he called me 2x a week, he knew I worked 70plus miles away, and he also knew that there was no heat and the trailer had elect. problems and forced me to stay in hotel.while I was trying to find a yard to rent, then the crazy fu**ers robbed me, and nobody’s in jail yet

     
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  3. mastiffsj

    mastiffsj Big Dog

    I'm not bad mouthing her, I just relayed what someone who has seen these dogs said...just as you relayed the fact that she fed and watered the dogs every other day, I relayed that one of the dog's reportedly had a broken jaw that had been left to heal on its own.
     
  4. TripleJ

    TripleJ CH Dog

    First off I am a very firm beliver in if you cant feed em dont breed em. BUT I also dont belive ONE word any news says or any shelter bleedin hart or any A/c Worker they are some of the biggest smoke blowers around. First off and this is true A LOT of the old timers I knew fed every other day all summer long if the dog looked poor they would feed every day for a while. Now I allways seen water in the pails but facts are dogs can do very well with good feed every other day That said I dont see how they could look all that bad NOW if they didnt have clean water now thats a whole new can of worms. But as far as the Jaw broke dog, If I could not get that fixed I would be like seeya boy you was a goodun Im going to miss ya Dirt nap. But thats just me and again I would not put any faith in and of the ones pointing the fingers Sounds like the damn cops could have prevented this a long time ago. I think its there fault.. J
     
  5. rallyracer

    rallyracer CH Dog

    the thing is- with all the busts that have gone down in the past 3 years, anyone who has been in the dog game should know that they are under the microscope. every single bust that happens is just another warning to YOU, and if you dont have your shit together-you cant go and blame anyone but yourself.
    the old days are gone, dead, and buried. w/ everyone messing w/ everyone elses business, and bogus rewards being offered to turn folks in-you need to have everything on the up and up. you need to take care of your dogs-NO EXCUSES. if you cant do it, give them to someone who can. too many wannabees around these days-everyone has to have a kennel name and a freakin' website.
    people need to find vets they trust and take their dogs to them, otherwise-like J said, put them out of their misery. a yard accident is just that, an accident. if it requires more attention than you can provide-take the dog to the vet (this is where having avet that you know and trust comes in)
    its 2009 folks, there is no reason for ANY of this. clean up your yards and take care of your dogs.
    luckily this story didnt hit the major media outlets, but its yet another black eye on the bulldog community
     
  6. ChDynomite

    ChDynomite Top Dog

    Well said , Bro
     
  7. AGK

    AGK Super duper pooper scooper Administrator

    Break Stick didn't work or break stick wasn't properly used? I hardly doubt shelter employees know how to efficiently use a break stick......... This all sounds bad but like most, I will wait to hear her side of the story before passing judgment.......
     
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  8. rallyracer

    rallyracer CH Dog


    which is why you cannot put this stuff on Feds-online...

    http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=79686

    it is well known fact that there are TONS of undercovers and hsus folk on there, and they are always copying peds, posts, etc, downloading the servers

    when they see things like 1XW that is a big red flag...then they look at the owner....then they look to see who entered the ped.

    fyi-those who need to know, know.
    dont put your business out there advertising things you would not want to be called on
     
  9. SPFDOGS

    SPFDOGS Guest

    I agree.....................
     
  10. ColbyDogs

    ColbyDogs Top Dog

    I am going with not knowing how to properly use one. In all my years I have never failed to part two dogs wtih a breakstick, its worked every single time for me.
     
  11. raided2

    raided2 Big Dog

    I will help out with getting some stuff for the raqffle here as I can get some items for donation through certain people and routes of people I know , but dare not reveal as there are too-many lurkers here and how do I get some of my income tax to help ,please any info will help and as far as animal control goes they are 100% idiots as when I was going to trail my attorney asked me if I had any freshly fought or scarred dogs I told him no,he asked me if I was sure because the prosecutor told him that the animal conntrol vet said I had 4 dogs with fresh scras less than a weeK old .I told him I swore on my family I didn't have any dogs with open wounds so he questioned the vet who after 45 mins of questioning admitted that they had several severe accidents while my dogs were in thier custody and that they could not seperate them ,causing numerous lacerations that required immidiate medical attention ,yet they blamed me in the media for their transgressions !! So I believe that happned just like with Floyd B they let the dogs kill each other!!!!!!!
     
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  12. BullDog143

    BullDog143 Big Dog

    Isnt TNT kennel's a show judge for the AADR?
     
  13. raided2

    raided2 Big Dog

    I trust the media about as much as I trust the crack addict in the South part of town they lie and believe all the lies that is biegn fed to them by the HSUS and prosecutor as I was in court on 1/14/09 to see about my personal property from my raid as none of it was ruled to have no evidetary value( nothing illegal ) please read the following ,and the sad part is the prosecutor hates when you get or any one gets nay of the truth out there that conflicts with all the liea they spread [: yesterday 1/14/2009 I had an hearing to have my property returned from Pima County Sheriffs department after my raid and the prosecutors excuse for not wanting to return my property was because I had gone on local news and chat room websites ,after admitting guilt to dogfighting charges then stating I was forced into it for fear of having my property ( home seized ) if I did not take the plea,both the JUdge and my attorney said at the same time ,he plead to guilt and what does that have to do with my property ?? the prosecutor then went on to say I was thinking of fililgn a article 32( appeal) of my conviction and that my property would be used as evidence against me if I did that the state wouldn't be able to use it as evidence if I did file an appeal ,my attorney and Judge both told the prosecutor what does that have to do with my personal property ? But agian here is more proff of where law enforcement and HSUS gets there info:
    The county attorney, Lewis Brandes, who prosecuted Verdin has no sympathy.

    "Mr. Verdin swore under oath that he was guilty of the offense," says Brandes.

    He believes he had plenty of evidence to convict the Verdin during a trail, hence their pleas. And he's not surprised by the death threats.

    "There are many chat rooms where dogfighters and people who are interested in it can chat back and forth," says Brandes. "He had talked up about how he was going to fight this to the end. And then when he didn't and pled guilty the other people were extremely angry at him." So believe nothing that the media says or the prosecutor as they lie to try and ruin the allgeds crediability ,If it was Jesus Christ himself they would say he was a dog fight ,drug dealing ,pedophile ,yet at the same time hug Judas and call him the redamor ,I can't promise as I am still in the thick of thing here but I will try to do my part for who I can I will try and spend my life hell for the HSUS after what they have caused innccnt people in their conquests
     
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  14. StopBSL

    StopBSL Top Dog

    Since I know you AR nutjobs are reading this- how about you post the truth for once.

    I do not know Stephanie. I posted this for a friend because the good people at game-dog.com read my posts and will respond to them. I have never met Stephanie and had a couple emails from her tops. I do know some of her friends though, and trust their judgment in people.

    How about you come to my home and try to accuse me of something you bunch of wackjobs. I dare you. Good F*cking luck.

    And, btw call me whatever you want because all of your previous posts about me have shown me how little you really know. Not just about me, but about the world, this country and most of all the "justice system."
     
  15. mydawgs

    mydawgs CH Dog

    The press has an extremely weak track record ON ALMOST EVERY TOPIC for skewing what is reported along the lines as to what will sell the best. This is simply a fact.

    Don't know much about the AR organizations that are doing what ever it is they do, but I find it extremely intresting that any AR activist supports an organization that would "murder" thousands of PB dogs because "fill in the excuse".

    Sounds like these folks would be comfortable with the solution used in China only a few years ago when a single case of rabies was reported....the gov't killed thousands of dogs----got rid of them all, threw their dead carcuses in a pile a burned them. They PAID neighbors to report each other for money, then entered those homes and clubbed the dogs to death. This is what these AR activists are supporting by asking for the elimination of the PB breeds.....I wonder if these fine folks will club the dogs to death themselves while wearing their AR badges of honor!

    There is so much suffering in this Country, on this planet, and PBs are what you are concentrating on?????? And we wonder why this Country is in the state it is in.......

    You peolpe are very sad, and I hope the good citizen's of this great Country stand together and say "not one more step".....if we are willing to send our sons, daughters, mothers and fathers to war to die for our rights, who the hell are you to try and take them away, shame on you. Perhaps you should pick up a rifle and join those on the front lines over seas, instead of cowardly trying to club a bunch of innocent dogs to death, this makes me sick.

    And for all you non-PB dog owners, when the same irresponsible owners can no longer own a PB they will select another "tough" dog, that will be equally ill trained, equally ill contained and equally as dangerous.....perhaps the Dobe, or the Rott or the GSD, and then this blood thirsty AR element will gleefully turn their eyes to your dogs...so as to save them, it appears killing is becoming a good business for them.
     
  16. Unregistered

    Unregistered Guest

    wtf! i don't know who to believe. i've only ever heard great things about stephanie, but damn. i know the cops like to warp things into their own twisted little perspective. some of the stuff they are saying though is really disturbing. i really hope someone has gotten to the bottom of what's really going on. on one hand, no i don't believe that feeding every other day is a good idea. on the other hand what was that rescue thinking keeping 2 hungry pit bulls in the same kennel? common sense says if you have 2 hungry dogs of any breed you don't put them in the same kennel. especially at feeding time. does anyone have any updated info? before we start saying anything about stephanie i think we should find out the full story. i only take what the cops say with a grain of salt. they tried to pull some crap on me one time. but our cops are stupid, and when i came with a lawyer and vet records and witnesses they had to back track. trust me from personal experience i know the bull crap they'll try to pull to trap you. luckily i was blessed with the funds to throw it back in their face. i hope that if they are pulling the same crap with stephanie that she has some kind of vet records at least to prove them wrong. and if she does i hope she sues the hell out of them for the loss of her property, defamation, and harassment.
     
  17. prpitdawg

    prpitdawg Top Dog

    you never know how much crap the cops are making up. I hope that nothing that they are saying is true. does anyone know if she's provided vet records or anything like that? I think it would help out alot if she could prove that she had any injuries treated. or if she could show that her dogs were in good health before they were seized. keep in mind that injuries could have happened while in the care of the humane society. that sounds very possible to me, considering they put 2 pit bulls in the same kennel together. does anyone have anymore info? i hope all of these allegations are true. If she can prove it, I hope she sues them for everything they are worth, and then some. If she can find a lawyer who'll take the lawsuit, they might do it for a percentage.
     
  18. performanceknls

    performanceknls Top Dog

    I talked to Stephanie today and she cleared up some questions that everyone has been asking.

    5-6 dogs have died thanks to the animal control putting 2 to 4 dogs per kennel run. The ones that are alive are injured because of the fighting that is being allowed to happen at animal control. I think animal control should be charged for dog fighting!

    I got info on the dog with a broken leg. The dog broke it's leg when another dog got threw a chain link dog run and attacked her. This happen over 5 years ago and the dog was treated by a vet and the leg was set. The dog kept having issues and the leg never healed straight. The dog walks with a limp but runs just fine since it happened over 5 years ago. When it's cold out and she starts limping she is given carprofen for pain. All this is documented by her vet.

    The dog with the broken jaw. The dog's Jaw was not broken it's bottom lip had a rip in it from an old kennel accident. She was also missing a few bottom teeth. This was an old injury, again treated and documented by her vet.

    These dogs were never checked out by a vet from AC regardless what the paper had said. The dogs were taken to the animal shelter and she was not giving any info for 7 days because animal services has already killed 2 dogs and didn't know what to tell her. After 7 days they finally called her and told her 2 had died. Now the total is at least 5 maybe 6. They don't have any documentation on the dogs to identify them, They tried to get her to ID the dogs by describing them but they kept talking about a chocolate dog. She doesn't own a chocolate dog.

    Please donate and help her fight to get her dogs back! If you had any questions about this case this should have cleared them up. Clearly Animal Services has no clue what they are doing with these dogs, let's just pray she has dogs left when this is done. She is calling lawyers and trying to get someone to take the case. She will be suing the county and Animal Control for unlawful seizure and the death of her dogs.
     
  19. ABK

    ABK Rest In Peace

    I hate to break some hearts here, but TNT isn't all sunshine & rainbows. I hope she beats this thing, but she was open about what she was about & had it printed for all the world to see in the SDJ.

    But the sad, bad fact of it is, no matter what you do - show, pull, breed or something other - if you have more than one pit bull & someone is out to get you, they can take you down with one finger. :(

    Edit - I do want to add however, when I was at TNT's place her dogs all looked good. Trouble & Sheba were house pets & all the dogs both indoors & out were fat & sassy. But this was some years ago, things may have changed since then. Gail Condra would be heart broken about this. I heard this was the very reason why she parted ways w/ TNT. :(

    Either way, I hope everything turn out for the best for ST.
     
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  20. rallyracer

    rallyracer CH Dog

    this is the level of intelligence, let this be a lesson to everyone....

    Okay anyone that wants to sling the TNT name through the mud take it to Stephanie you can e-mail her at chtroublechgrim@gmail.com

    Straight from her mouth

    "if any body has doubts about my dogs the can email me, and Timex is 2xw otc.......everybody knows in the GA,TN,KY,TX,IN. circuit that my dogs have always and will always b real...100% pit.....and 100% GAME... "
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