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The guvnor

Discussion in 'Staffordshire Bull Terriers' started by jt ellison, May 10, 2012.

  1. jt ellison

    jt ellison Big Dog

    To all those who dont mind a touch of Bull Terrier in your dogs what about The Guvnor a pure English Bull that lost game to Limeys CH Dutch a bitch and scratched game in losing , he then beat GG Cooper a Pitbull/Stafford scratching hard to win , then he lost game to Buzz in over one and half hours scratching game whilst losing then as a old dog he defeated a Pitbull in around one hour forty , he may have had more matches and never quit , he was without doubt the gamest English Bull of modern times
     
  2. StosMan

    StosMan Big Dog

    JT- Do you have the Guvnor's ped that you can share?
     
  3. Herodog1

    Herodog1 Top Dog

    Yeah also some pics too...
     
  4. Dusty Road

    Dusty Road Top Dog

  5. lamp

    lamp Big Dog

    Is this carls c guvnor that got took in the potters bar turn out?
     
  6. jt ellison

    jt ellison Big Dog

    It wasnt Guvnor that was confiscated in the Potters Bar raid but a bitch called Spice and yes the dog i was talking about is Carls Guvnor
     
  7. sunbeam

    sunbeam CH Dog


    that was kim & spice
     
  8. sunbeam

    sunbeam CH Dog

    what lines was cooper from ?
     
  9. XXLbully

    XXLbully Big Dog

    any pic of guvnor?
     
  10. Finito

    Finito Big Dog

    Cooper may have been 3/4 bulldog x 1/4 stafford,being a sire x daughter breeding. I stand corrected.
    Think i have photo's here of his dam & her littermates.
     
  11. jt ellison

    jt ellison Big Dog

    The Cooper dog was out of a brindle/white dog that was pedigree unknown , the owner kept the sire as a house pet . The dog was owned by a sailor who brought the dog from the USA when he was transfered to Portsmouth with his job , Bob Heys told me that the dog was owned by a woman as a pet and they took a stafford bitch to breed to the dog then took one of the bitch pups back to the dog and got the Cooper dog . I do know that KC papers were put on some of the dogs and was told a story were a woman was showing a male pup at a KC Staff show and the pup was 23 inches tall and about sixty pounds , the poorwoman hadnt a clue what the dog was that she was showing . The dog the sailor owned had no pedigree and its owners were not doggy people so the dog may not have been a pure pitbull but may have carried some American Bull dog .
     
  12. Westway

    Westway Pup

    Did guvner beat a dog called kozli...might have the dogs name spelt wrong.
     
  13. jt ellison

    jt ellison Big Dog

    Yes it was a pitbull from mainly Reid breeding i THINK it went around 1hr 49 mins
     
  14. Herodog1

    Herodog1 Top Dog

    Any pics of guvnor folks, couldn't find any on the net?
     
  15. Westway

    Westway Pup

    the guvnor dog....
     

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  16. CockneyRebel

    CockneyRebel Big Dog

    Very surprising as it looks very showy and not what you'd expect from such a capable animal.
     
  17. Westway

    Westway Pup

    He was a pure kc bull terrier.......i never heard of any other bull terriers that faired as well. I think a few were used but we're out classed against yankee's ...there was a dog called pirate but I think he was a cross ebt with a mayfield bred dog.
     
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  18. Westway

    Westway Pup

    Pirate
     

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  19. Soze the killer

    Soze the killer Top Dog

    Lol.has any one read that funny little book "Pitbull Garden".by Douglas G Link?.lol he mentioneds the old bull bitch,and says the line is still going to this day(the book was wrote in 2010).he shows a picture of a red nosed red and white dog,what he says it's name is "BB"..and its line bread on the Old Bull Bitch.he says its100% English Bull Terrier?..I always thought the Old Bull Bitch,had a bit of Staff in her?..he also says it's got no Roman nose because it's "Game Bread".and been bread as such for many generations.lol.he then says it's a great Badger dog,and a great pit dog.saying it beat A.P.B.T.S.,I'm sure he gives the names of the A.P.B.T.S,aswell.but i can't remember what they were called.he also shows a picture of a so called "English Bull Terrier
     
  20. Soze the killer

    Soze the killer Top Dog

    So called English Bull Terrier called Belcher from the Bedlemite line.any one no or heard of "BB"??..any one read the book??.....
     

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