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The dogs called bullys, bullies and blues, are really apbt?

Discussion in 'Breeder Discussion' started by jeepfreek, Jan 5, 2010.

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  1. jeepfreek

    jeepfreek Big Dog

    (Not my work a copy/paste i found, This always makes a great debate ...lol) THE DOGS CALLED BULLYS, BULLIES AND BLUES, ARE REALLY APBT?

    The calls “Bullies”, “Bullys” and “Blues” come from crossings in which looked a physical deformity and to make them spectacular to draw attention to the futures buyers. The physical functionality of these dogs remained practically annulled, are dogs with very little blood of American Pit Bull Terrier or nothing, being completely the opposite of the APBT as far as appearance, resistance and functionality between several things more. The “Bullies”, “Bullys” and “Blues” usually have crossing of American Bulldog, with English Bulldog, Canary Presa, Neapolitan Mastín, and little or nothing of APBT.

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    Bully or Bullie, of colour Blue. By his colour also to them usually are denominated, like Blues.

    Some people that breed this kind of dogs, denominate them like APBT, taking advantage the popularity of the American Pit Bull Terrier (APBT) to try to sell better and better price his puppies. The main reason of many of this people that breed with this dogs is for the money, this is ok, but they would not must damage the quality of life to that animals doing them physically defective to take the attention and to deceive saying that they are pure APBT. In addition, many of these “Breeders” do not know of where come their Bullys, Blues or Bullies, with the consequent genetic danger at the time of reproducing them, by deficiency of data and experience.

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    Bully or Bullie, of colour Blue. By his colour also to them usually are denominated, like Blues.

    I do not say that this kind of dogs are bad dogs no, certainly will be wonderful of character and very good dogs of family, about of this I am completely convinced, but I say that going completely without information in the breeding of any kind of dog is a little reckless, as far as having more guarantees to be able a balanced character, among others characteristic always important to consider. Another handicap that have this kind of dogs, is the ominous physical functionality that they own, since we can appreciate that they are dogs deformed physically without possibilities of developing works that require a minimum of resistance. For example in a simple race of 3 minutes, it can even give cardiac unemployment them and to which it does not happen this to him, most probable it is than one will fall on his own shade of the fatigue. This last is totally the opposite than always it has looked for in the pure breed dog American Pit Bull Terrier, which was, be and will be theBred Dog of Work by Excellence”, especially in resistance and tenacity.

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    A pair of Bullys or Bullies, of colour Blue. By his colour also to them usually are denominated, like Blues.

    As we already know in this life must have tastes for everything, also it is ok and normal, but what this clearly, it is that the authentic American Pit Bull Terrier is another thing completely different from which they want to show us with these Bullys, Bullies, Blues, etc.

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    Bully or Bullie, of colour Blue. By his colour also to them usually are denominated, like Blues.

    For avoid confusions is good inform, that exist some pure APBT and them can be of colour “Blue”. This colour really is not a blue colour, are tones of grays and this tonality or colour is not disqualified in the Official Standard of the Breed. These pure APBT ““Blue”, nothing have to do with firstly mentioned in this chapter also denominated like “Blues”, the unique thing that have in common all these dogs is its colour “Blue”, nothing else.

    The blue colour in the APBT although is allowing in its Standard, is a quite atypical colour in the breed. Personally, not yet I have seen none pure APBT of that colour or at least not remember that. The best APBT of history none of them showed that colour, although this does not mean that they do not exist.

    What one becomes quite strange and suspicious, is that in just a short time the “Blues” arise so many APBT, even more when the majority of these dogs is not inside of the Official Standard of this breed. Many of the owners of this kind of dogs, do not know that their dogs are not APBT.

    Many works and sports exist where is possible to appreciated to the true and pure APBT, showing the qualities and virtues of authenticity of breed through its tenacity. In the following links, you can appreciate and see what is a pure and authentic American Pit Bull Terrier developing so happy, the Work - Sport of the MarathonPit:
     
  2. 1503bulls

    1503bulls Big Dog

    Love my Bully, contrary to what you say bout em, they still are
    pits wheteher you like it or not just not game,,, just like mnost gamebreds aint gamne so whats the difference one looks better in my opinion
     
  3. jeepfreek

    jeepfreek Big Dog

    :confused: :rolleyes: one looks better ??? ....mabye to those who don't know what a REAL/TRUE A.P.B.T is soposed to look like . ...here we go ...lol :cool:
     
  4. 1503bulls

    1503bulls Big Dog

    Jeep Freak, I know the difference ....
    Many dont,, it dont matter...Me id rather have what I have, I have access to some good well bred dogs, but choose not to fuk w/ em right now,, just preference right now, it dont mean I dont respect em....
     
  5. dadecounty

    dadecounty Big Dog

    Dude,they may be"pits"but they are not A.P.B.T.
     
  6. dadecounty

    dadecounty Big Dog

    I respect that you take dam good care of your dogs because I have seen them on here.But I dont see the point of A bullie 90% of them are fat & unhealthy.And more & more they are becoming the face of the A.P.B.T.Wich I belive is wrong cause they are bullies A.P.B.T.
     
  7. rallyracer

    rallyracer CH Dog

    riiiiiiiiight :rolleyes:
     
  8. CaesarIsis

    CaesarIsis Top Dog

    yea, a played out stupid lose lose argument. thats what.

    RR ^^^ Thanks Button
     
  9. Mcleod15

    Mcleod15 Pup

    My answer is No.
    The day I change my point view is when =>
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  10. mydawgs

    mydawgs CH Dog

    It is not a POV, it is a fact....they are not APBTs
     
  11. Searcy Jeff

    Searcy Jeff Top Dog

    LOL are you serious?

    Aren't you the one who bought a bully/mix because you liked the way he looks?

    Hypocrisy at its best!
     
  12. Dream Pits

    Dream Pits CH Dog

    i bet this thread is on here a million times with different titles. At the end of the day everyone is allowed to choose what they own and what they like. I wish that people would call each breed what it is and drop the term pit bull completely
     
  13. Old Timer

    Old Timer CH Dog

    Contrary to what you may say or think they are not anything near a American Pitbull Terrier.

    At best and this is going out on a limb here I will call them APBT mixes, But they will never be anything close to a American Pitbull Terrier. Even a barely functioning retard could look at a American Pitbull Terrier and a Bully side by side and know they were different dogs.

    It is like saying a lemon and a lime is the same thing but just a different color and one is bigger than the other, Doesn't make much sense now does it.
     
  14. Lee D

    Lee D CH Dog

    i would say more like a high performance car and cargo van...they both have 4 wheels, right?:rolleyes:
     
  15. Old Timer

    Old Timer CH Dog

    Another good analogy.
     
  16. 1503bulls

    1503bulls Big Dog

    lol you guys bite every time lol
    of course they aint American Pitbull Terrier bred for its gameness or performance...
    All I can speak on is what I have, and that is Amstaff/Pitbull terrier cross registered w/ UKC as a A.P.B.T thats what it is ...you can put it side by side next to what ever you want and of course they will stand out because they are more appealing to the eye for the most part.not always okay.. I dont rep the entire bully world nor do I want to,because like you already know there are some messed up looking dogs just like w/ any other breed..They dont have to be mixed w/ bulldog/mastiff or what ever else you
    think,,, I took it upon myself to breed 3 gen back a standard looking average pit/staff whatever and at this point you can see the cahnges, yea Im brededing for the look but they also0 function, they will never be in a {} so its easire since all I want out of them is basic functionality...I choose to feed what I want and if I wanted a fastlane dog I have acces to some good stock, but I dont want it right now,,,
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    this is a 1503 Bull, if it was black or whatever deep down u cant really put this dog down , your only argument would be hes not game ,, wow im depressed now lol
    Hes what I cakll an OG bully pit traces back to ch Staff and Pit blood so nowadays is that a mix breed I dont care still derived off the same dogs staffs are pits in ukc...
    so I go based ogff that... If I wanted to cross back to an ADBA dog gamebred I could do that too and still bred for what I want...just like my black dog,,, he has Art the eli bred dog behind him he also has ch Pennypacker the ch Amstaff..hes ukc reg as a terrier and he takes the best of both world,,,
    Im happy w/ what I have , I enjoy looking at the game dog and respect it, I know about the difference, but to say all bully dogs are mixed is kinda ignorant...
    kinda like saying all gamedogs are mixed w/ patterdales etc...
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    this is another one of my dogs, can function just fine,
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    I know that a lot of the anomosity towards the bully pit derives off the fact that
    an average stud fee for one of my dogs usually will yield a lot more money than a whole litter of gamebreds off even proven stock, thats not my fault... I know if you werde able to get 1500- 5000 a pop for one stud that you wouldnt deny it,,, what if the show was in the other foot and the game bred were the ones in demand and making their masters some good money for their upkeep?
    all I can say is I have my own standards I breed for me and I take the old w/ the new and do my own program, im not peddlin pyups,I keep most of my stuff, and I have less weight on my shoulders as I dont have to worry bout a dog not turning out game,,,
    to each their own, I enjoy mostr styles of the pitbull, from the og terrier to the bully staff/pit...
    I can condition a bully just the same so at the end of the day im cool w/ my dogs...
    I think deep down most of you ,kinda want a bully a nice bully but feel your conscience wont let you,but thats something you would need to talk to a shrink about lol nop disrespect, but I dont like fools bashing on gamedogs w/ their greyhound remarks as I canm appreciate a well conditioned bulldogg and the same goes for the bully pit, im not gonna defen the bully in general just my dogs, cause I wont do the same w/ the other dogs either, I have my preference in every style...
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    so basic stuff flirtpole, slatmill/carpetmill, long wa;ls etc, my dogs can handle all that
    pluys they make good pets,,,of course the arent fastlane dogs because I choose not to feed any, but they aint any less, and they do pay their keep so its a win win for me..
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    another typical 1503 bull thats what I call mines just so that the folks that say no not a real pit and the folks that say no not a real ambully, screw that mine are 1503
    they have good confo ,temperament and just have more muscle at the end of the day...
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    here is a real bully straight off Chamstaff/ and terrier lines ,, so hes ukc as a pit and thats fine by me, i dont care bout labels, at the end they are just dogs, and I doubt that most on here will even have an impact or be remembered for doing anything worthwhile for the breed, BSL stuff is what really counts right now, not too much on what the old dogmaen did, its great that they did whatever but in this day, all you can do is pereserve what you want or enjoy what ever kind of dog you feel like walking...sorry for the long post, just that I see the bully being brought up a lot so might as well share a few pics of my bully pits.wink wink
     
  17. Naustroms

    Naustroms CH Dog

    Great post. You're obviously proud of your dogs and thats all that matters, feed what you want and have fun with your animals. As long as your owning your dog responsibly (regardless of the breed) then your doing fine in my book.
     
  18. 1503bulls

    1503bulls Big Dog

    NAUSTROMS,. thank you...I get on these boards only when im at work(office Job) so I
    go on here read a bit learn something, then ill hop on over to the bully forum etc, and it gets boring after a while, seems the only thing that makes the boards pop is
    contoversy, drama and b.s... I like to post pics cause i take em so ill share,
    my dogs are mine and I am proud, I look at them w/ the same eyes most of you do funny hugh,but it is what it is, i doubt ill ever have what is in most of you guys mind when u hear the term ambully, cause im not too fond of them dogs that are messed up looking and unhealthy... anyways thanks 4 the comment
     
  19. ABK

    ABK Rest In Peace

    PLEASE have mercy man & don't say that again!! I think if you say that again about your dogs my eyes will bleed! (Actually not really, but you get the idea.) Most 1503 Bulls do NOT have good "confo." Almost all of them are affected with the genetic defect CD (which is what is causing the bowing of the pup's front legs as well as his pigeon-toed stance) & Rock'n'Roll Gangster looks like he has the head of an overdone Boxer. Others, like Bruno & Blu Dagger look OK from what I can see of them, but I have seen several of your other dogs & pups on other boards & virtually all of them are CD affected. Please, please, please don't mislead people by saying they have good conformation! CD is not only a deviation from proper conformation but it is a genetic defect.

    And you are right, they bite every time, but some (to include myself) can't help but try to educate when they see misinformation being spread about.

    (P.S. I think it's great you love your dogs. You seem to cherish them & it shows. :))
     
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  20. Lee D

    Lee D CH Dog

    what i dont follow is that you stated its ignorant to say all bullies are mixed...of course they are a mix. like you said Staffs are APBTs in the UKC, and thats exactly why most dont giva a crap about the UKC.
     
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