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Swim keep???

Discussion in 'Training & Behavior' started by 21 dre, Aug 7, 2012.

  1. Iron Mike

    Iron Mike CH Dog

    So you fully understand this, when you do a stress test on a threadmill the dye is not given to induce stress. Another dye is given to do a CT scan.......
  2. Bones1

    Bones1 Big Dog

    Yes , 2 different test. The die makes the tissue radio lucent so they can see an image of the actual heart walls and valves. Running the treadmill and the drug work together to fully stress the heart.
  3. Iron Mike

    Iron Mike CH Dog

    hold on! Lets clear the air once and for all!
    there is no such fucking thing as a pre-keep!

    i'm going to tell how david adams won with so many zebo dogs when others couldn't.
    David wasn't lazy as many dogmen are today.

    When you have a prospect, you work the dog every day!
    until the dog is retired for good!
    David had at least 5 mills working every day.
    Every dog seen at least 30 minutes every day and walked out!
    When david was active, no one and mean no one had a better record!

    if i had 40 dogs, 30 were always pass pre-keep every day!
    you never start to bring a dog to weight until the money has been set down!

    Now here is the thing about juice, yes it can enhance preformance but when the conditioning fades, it is like a bowling ball falling off a table!
    Natural keep you get recovey time and time again!

    Now we all have seen in books, on the internet, keeps from the most sporting dogmen in history,
    none use swimming!
  4. Iron Mike

    Iron Mike CH Dog

    I will tell you AGAIN so you understand.
    The drugs are 2 different drugs which are used..........
  5. Iron Mike

    Iron Mike CH Dog

    and no the drug used when working a mill for a stress test does not stress the heart.
    It is for the CT scan...........
  6. sadieblues

    sadieblues Premium Member Premium Member

    The Thallium is the radio active dye used for imaging ...

    Adenosine is a drug used to increase the heart rate this is only used for people who cannot physically run/walk on the treadmill. These patients are laying down the entire time the drug is actually used in place of the treadmill.
  7. Iron Mike

    Iron Mike CH Dog

    maybe I have a more thro stress test.
    On a teadmill you are not given drugs because you can't control the effects on the body.
    Only a dye for CT scan, not Thallium .
    BTW out all the ones I had, this one Clinic and doctors used this method and he is light years a head of the rest!
  8. sadieblues

    sadieblues Premium Member Premium Member

    Right IM you don't need to increase the heart rate with drugs on a treadmill the heart will increase on it's on as you continue to walk or run on it ... That drug you are talking about bones is only given to people who cannot physically perform a stress test on a treadmill these people have their heart rates stimulated by a drug but they are laying down they are not on a treadmill at all in this type of test the drug replaces the treadmill all together.
  9. Iron Mike

    Iron Mike CH Dog

    SWAK thanks babe...........;->
  10. sadieblues

    sadieblues Premium Member Premium Member

    You're Welcome :)
  11. sadieblues

    sadieblues Premium Member Premium Member

  12. Iron Mike

    Iron Mike CH Dog

    No this what they use and you sit in a chair when it given to you.
    Then scanned.
    This what they give my mother too.
    Leaves a hell of a
    Tease like metal. (Tin).
    You don't have that tease on the drug for CT scan and treadmill work with both being done in the same stress test.
  13. Iron Mike

    Iron Mike CH Dog

    This is not what I am talking about..........
    CT Scan not X-rays with treadmill work.
  14. ben brockton

    ben brockton CH Dog

    "to enhance its preformance" IM that say it all. if you feel like you need to enhance yours with doping well bud knock yourself out. i wont cheat the truth of my stock it is what it is. i dont feel my dogs need any "enhancements" if i did then id cull everything i own and start over. you dont cheat the fella you cheat the dog.
  15. sadieblues

    sadieblues Premium Member Premium Member

    Oh ok I think you are talking about Coronary CT angiography just imaging of the heart where they use iodine for imaging and that stuff leaves a nasty taste in the mouth ...
  16. Lee D

    Lee D CH Dog

    id be suprised if this thread hasnt gave some of you some serious stress on the ol ticker LOL
  17. Saiyagin

    Saiyagin Chihuahua Premium Member

    Is that your personal biased opinion or are you stating that on Facts?

    I.M. might come off as a asshole or a prick LOL, but when it comes down to conditioning he KNOWS what he is talking about to a degree.

    Some of yall just jumping on the cheerleading bandwagon trying to blindly discredit him just because yawl dont like I.M., it has nothing to do with "LIKES".
  18. Saiyagin

    Saiyagin Chihuahua Premium Member

    Shit how this topic turn from swimming to dye and stress test. LMAO

    Dyes are mainly used so that the Docs can SEE what is happening internally in your body. They can do it intravenously which works really fast or Orally which is really slow LOL.

    The fun part is when you get too see your pee in fluorescent color LMAOROTF.
  19. Lee D

    Lee D CH Dog

    lol @ saiy
  20. Naustroms

    Naustroms CH Dog

    Steroids, or juice, is recovery. Simply injecting steriods isn't going to enhance performance. And using it sure as hell isn't cheating. Every example of steroid use given in these last couple pages have been accounts of misuse by people who didnt know what they were doing or why they were doing it.

    And someone was really giving me shit about going off on a tangent about feed this thread has covered everything under the sun.

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