Stp on Pat Patrick

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funny Patrick bred this dog named Buck they owned. Everyone hates on everyone, its normal for any type of sport or in life

 

Buck really has nothing to to do with what STP is talking about though. I mean he clearly says that PP will produce good dogs but he doesn't know about the percentages of good dogs that are coming out of all those pups that get sold by PP. Also as you know STP didn't buy Buck from Patrick.

Is it hate or just one man's opinion?

 

Either way I feel what MT is saying. We can all talk about percentages and so on forever. PP is a breeder of game dogs, so thats exactly what he did..tried to BREED game dogs. Whatever the percentages are, the Patrick family of dogs is getting it done around the globe today. I have the utmost respect for STP and what they have accomplished in the world of pit dogs. With that being said, their most noteworthy animal IMO Gr. Ch. Buck is the work of PP.

 

STP was trying to make a sale. Any breeder will till you not to go elsewhere, and get it from them instead.

 

Then why is it in another part of the video STP tells the exact same guy the names of breeders he would buy dogs from?

 

Well in hindsite STP was dead on. Time has proven that the P.P. dogs cant compete and have completely faded away:rolleyes:...just a foot note now lmmfao
STP was a gambler. He bought match ready dogs and got the job done. He wasent the breeder that P.Patrick was. Time has provin that. Stp had a good eye for what would win. PP knew how to put em together.

 

What he is sayn dosnt sound like hate to me it sounds like a sportingman giving his thoughts on a sportingdog breeder

 

Sounds like a gambler talking shit on the breeder who bred there best most famious dog lmao. The men did two completely different things. If Pat was to criteqe STP's ability to back and match dogs,PP would be out of his leage. This is not what PP did well.It is what STP dominated in. Vica versa STP is way out of his leage when it comes to breeding match dogs when compared to PP.

 

I don't know for certain but I bet STP bred better dogs the PP. I would rather buy a dog from STP then PP.

 

I dissagree. Im not saying STP dident breed any good dogs but his stock was vary scattered and hasent stood the test of time the way the P.Patric dogs have. Except maybee the buck dogs who were in essence Patric dogs.

 

PP might of bred Buck but it was STP that made him ROM.

 

Which still brings back yo PP breeding him and knowing how to breed a good dog and get a good line of producers so would you really give the credit to STP? nope not me

 

Without the work of PP buck would have never looked through a collar. I guess this debate can turn into another endless one. Both PP and STP have left a major impact on the world of game dogs. Both PP and STP deserve the respect they have earned in the worl of sporting dogs.

 

I don't know, doing a quick search of STP dogs, I found:
Sassy
Toro
Buck
Black Pazmanian

 

Patricks dogs, I found:
Indian Bolio
Homer
Bull Boy Bob
Zacharia
Domino
Red Baby

Yeah, I guess PP had more. I agree they both deserve their respect. I still think the breeding credit should goto STP for all the Buck breedings he did.

 

LOL why should the credit go to him hell he knew PP knew what he was doing so he know more than likely that the buck dogs would produce damn good i give him credit for working the dogs and making them what they were but not for the breeding program that PP sat in his lap lol

 

I agree wardog credit for the breedings done with buck should go to STP just like the credit for breeding Buck himself should be given to Patrick. Thats why it comes off as hateing to me. Thay both are legands in the sport and deservingly so.Thay just were masters of different aspects of the same game IMO.

 

Because he chose which bitches to breed to him. he could of been to blame if he produced like shit. So he should get credit for it being good. Maybe we should just give Carver credit for everything Indian Bolio produced. How's that sound?

 

I actually started to say something to that affect about all the dogs all the way back to colby but yea credit for buck to PP but true like you say he chose the bitches to take ole buck to so i will agree with ya on that