Steroids?

Yea I would not be able to do that type of thing unless I seriously without a doubt knew what I was doing. I have heard people who put stuff in their racing or high flying pigeons and messing the birds up or killing them, off by a mg or less and it could screw everything up.

I agree, same with how the body builder or steroid using humans do, they weight and measure everything and only eat whole raw foods to make sure they know what they are gaining. Very interesting. I am more of a purist when it comes to the dogs, or my birds, good raw feeds and proper exercising and keeps will really do the majority of the work (oh and great genes!) and youll end up with a serious animal without using any additives.

I have to agree with you on that, unless your way involved with what your doing, it should be left alone, you might be better off doing it the old fashioned way ya know.
Again agreed, whatever exercise or thing you did with your dog is nearly impossible to repeat in a controlled way, animals are hard to do that type of control with, the metabolism might be off, food might have had more water or whatever, workout or match wont ever really be exactly the same again, its just impossible really to repeat the thing exactly so you wont ever end up with a base for your variables and such. Makes sense though and thank you again for answering and explaing!

 

ok everytime I think of jucing a dog and how it can make him win but fuck him up GR ch Sparkey. this was a avg dog in every way. not a ton of mouth not all that fast and not real ruff, was he game , I dont know I would sday that is what took him there his brother assissin was very game and a better dog in my mind, but was it the jucie or his gameness that took him there? I like C Floyd and would like to say it was his gameness, and I think the dog would have been better if he went nattie, But hell mell They have been jucin dogs for ever, And I have been runnin nattie for ever, I have been accuised of jucing my dogs with it, but I my self just dont think I need it. look the half life is tricky in that shit and if you dont have the time *8* weeks to work one you wont get much from juce in short time anyway you need time to use it and yall dont takenthis wrong but I only think a few on here has the brains to use them in a dog.

 

blood doping in a nut shell is just removing a said amount of blood from the animal months in advance and then administering the blood back into the animal 3-5 days before the event. by taking the blood 2-3 months out ahead of time the body develops and replaces the taken RBC's and restores the lost blood levels. by re-administering the taken blood 3-5 days before the event it sets the body in a overload capacity for max O2 intake in the body tissues. its way more complicated than just that i mentioned and i would not dare try this on my dog because i dont know how to do it lol nor have the need to do it. i do know its been used in race horses and greyhounds and am sure its been tried on the high levels of the sport. i would think of it as even more of a risk than ready to go steroids right out the vile. you would really need the proper machines and storage facility for the blood so taking it and putting it in the freezer would not be wise lol. you would also need to know of how much blood to take from the dog. i read awhile back of a famous race horse who was blood doped. they said they took the blood from the horse until it looked like it was going to pass out then they would stop lol. he won a a good few of them until it was discovered.

 

let me just recap that i hope no average joe does any of this because the risks of blood infections are way greater if you dont know how to do it. again please dont go taking blood from your dog 2-3 months before anything and try pumping that old blood back in. there are steps and proper very proper procedures that needs to be done and would not be wise to get drunk with your buddies and all decide to with draw blood from the dogs. lol you will most likely kill your dog from infections and possibly by taking way to much. basically you need machines and scientific type of equipment for this. the blood needs to be separated from the plasma to be stored and spinning the blood round and round in an office chair will not separate the plasma from the RBC's. dont try any of this anyone its just a broad generalization of a very technique procedure. just had to put that out there before some 13-14 yr old decides to with draw blood. dont do it.

 

I am here to learn from all these so called experts LMAO.

How did this steroid topic change into blood doping? LOL

Blood doping is the thing of the past there is no need for it today , as there are drugs that can simulate the exact same thing without all that hassel of withdrawing and storing blood, but if not done right it can kill you and its way more dangerous then steroids.

Of course I don't know anything about that though LMAO.

 

are you trying to take a jab at me Saiyagin? the topic went off to blood doping because of me. if your are smart enough you would know that steroids and blood doping fall into the same category of enhancements. actually blood doping is not a thing of the past. it is one of the harder enhancement agents to test for if your doping from your own blood. if you are getting the blood from a donner then the test for it is easier to detect. this is the new steroids for endurance sports. its used all the time in many sports human and animal. the test for it will show up if your using someone elses blood as highlighted and un-highlighted sections of stains under the microscope. its a bit harder if your doping with your own blood. EPO's are easy to test for another doping agent. steroids are easy to test for, you have a better chance of getting away if you dope your own blood. like i said i dont have personal expeirence with them, we can say i do know of some that have used, but i feel like i do understand the stuff to a certain degree. why dont you teach us a few things Saiyagin. enlighten us a bit instead of calling people euros which i have no idea what thats suppose to mean. is that European? explain your self on that too because you use the word with a derogatory meaning. idk that may be the new cool thing to go around calling people Euros.

 

Thats kind of crazy, I figured people would do stuff like that to the horses, horse and dog racing is so intense. It does sound very complicated and you need a specific storage unit and proper equipment to keep the blood in other wise you could kill the animal when you put it back in, or have it congeal and not have anything for all the work lol

Great disclaimer, thats all we need is some drunk guy or little kid trying to do that then killing their dog and blaming someone else, also LOL at the office chair!
You couldnt spin fast enough to get up to centrifuge speeds lol unless you tied a rope around the chair and took off with it tied to a truck bumper Hmmmmm

Also I think I was kind of to blame a little for getting the blood doping thing going, I am curious about it and wanted to know what it was and how it is done because learning is my main reason for being on this site

 

IF I was taking a jab at you I would of QUOTED you first just to show you I was speaking to you directly Mr.Vain Hard luck like this LMAO.

 

You sure do have to work Pookie..I dont lift heavy weights any more ,back when I did ,I worked out with 3 other guys and 2 were on the roids.I never took them because the 2 guys that did were prob only benching about 25 lbs more than me ,so i didnt see where it was worth the risk,,When I lifted heavy the people I generally saw hitting the juice was the younger guys who didnt want to put the work in so they would take the shortcut..Didnt want to go through the embarassment ..I was never emabarassed and put the work in..As far as dogs I never did it to myself so I wouldnt do it to my dogs..But I dont have a problem with someone doing it ,to each thier own.

 

i did roids for years and know my shit about them..did tren as well which i understand dogs that fight are put on. that shit is sick! could imagine what it does to a dog, especially attitude wise. but...yea u gotta work out hard, eat right too..unless u wana b a swollen softy with muscles. most people have no idea about roids and how to use them, or how to train right or eat right, they just think they do. i would never give my dog roids. i guess a dog needs extra workout tho too to make the roids worth it. i know nothing bout juicin dogs but could imagine what my boy would b like if i did. he would get an increased exercise/training/diet regimen, increased slightly from his current 1, as well. there is alot more to responsibly takin roids than pokin the needle.

 

exactly what i was thinkin that shit is cheatin how can u say my dog is game as hell when u know ur dog is supped up dont make no sense to me.

 

thats right. cause u can breed this supped up gr ch to 100 bitches and then u look at the offspring and say damn y he never produce what he was and in reality he was a average dog to began with and now he breeds average dogs

 

I agree man,,if your dogs not good enough to win without the roids what the hell are you really prooving?Same way in base ball right now you got players souped up on roids breaking records that was set by men who did it naturally.Thier names are in the rcord books yes ,but imo its a tainted record.

 

I SAY NO TO ROIDS ! unless under a wactchful eye of a doctor I know body builders who f them self up ! liver , can't have kids , heart proublems , seen a few dogs on that to they to go to grave early or can't produce knew 2 champ that didn't produce shit then die from liver tumor ! gameness should come first there no wonder drug!

 

dont use them myself ....in competion but in medical sense would if need be ..

 

Like i said, i aint against em....just dunno enough about em. Id be afraid to fuck up a good dog lol

 

Oh my goodness LMAO

 

How much anavar do you give a dog for a show 2mg twice a day?

 

You should not give them..also what would the dosage be .. they are way stronger in dogs as thier bodies absorb them at a higher rate ...you want to be a test mule ?? I believe let them run and prove what they are not what a drug company is ..I think you can use them to extend life or quality of life as your dog nears it'e end but not for Sport ..And this should be about advancing a breed ..not who can drug the dog the best ...I would not ever give them to a fighting age dog ever thats low down

 

I'm just seeing what I read and I hear alot of people using them during a keep especially the old ones.. rite now I'm using rf1 raw meat high protein dog food salmon oil and vertex to. I give the rf1 after a workout n vertex in the morning and night is there anything I'm missing??? Also some garlic 3 times a week.