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Staffordshire Bull Terrier

Discussion in 'Staffordshire Bull Terriers' started by Envy's Mom, Sep 20, 2007.

  1. rooster

    rooster Banned

    I've seen him fighting on VHS. Does that count ?

    Foot note:
    No I don't have the tapes anymore they were burned by a moron who thought he was being raided.
     
  2. OnTheRocks

    OnTheRocks Moderator

    Why not... Whats your view on his shape and weight?
     
  3. rooster

    rooster Banned

    And

    The man who Conditioned Stormer and handled him in the pit was truly the "dogs bollocks" as far as being a conditioner and pit handler was concerned. Not talking about as a breeder but as a trainer and conditioner. So not sure how much that had to do with Stormer's almost total domination of Psycho.
     
  4. rooster

    rooster Banned

    I didn't see the tape of him fighting Stormer. Just the tape of him fighting Nero. He was very game in the match and kept good holds all the way. He dominated Nero. Nero was a good dog too, certainly no push over but out matched.

    As for shape well he was in good nick but not ripped. However I saw the tape about 10 years ago, so can't remember that well. JMHO

    Nice dog! (under-statment of the year)

    Awesome fantastic dog
     
  5. Rik

    Rik Pup

    Hello,

    I own three staffordshire bull terriers. This is a pic of my pride and joy... Bono @ 10.5 months:

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    I fel in love with this breed a few years ago. I always was interested in game/fighting breeds. Until last year pit bulls were not alowed in the Netherlands. That is why i chose the stafford.

    The pictures that the others showed are not pictures that look like the stafford as he is in 2009. The pictures shown are nown as the working staffords. That is a very small part of the stafford population today. (i prefer the working stafford :D) The big part of the stafford population are smaller, fater and heavier.

    This is how the bigest part of the population look like (showdogs):

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    I've posted some breed info for you about the (english) staffordshire bull terrier.

    Description:

    The Staffordshire Bull Terriers are known to have great strength for their size. They are stocky and muscular, but should also be active and agile. The breed is the 5th most popular dog in the UK (its place of origin), and it is the only breed to have the words 'totally reliable' in its breed standard. Furthermore, the Staffordshire Bull Terrier is one of only two breeds from over 190 recognized by the UK Kennel Club to have a mention of the breed's suitability with children.


    History/Origin:

    The Staffordshire Bull Terrier first came into existence in or around the seventeenth century. As bull baiting declined in popularity and dog fighting enjoyed a surge of interest, it became necessary to develop a dog which possessed a longer and more punishing head than the Bulldog and also to combine strength and agility. It is therefore believed that the Staffordshire Bull Terrier was derived from the fighting Bulldog of the day with some terrier blood introduced. This cross produced what was known as the Bull and Terrier or Pit Dog. These dogs were renowned for their courage and tenacity and despite their ferocity in the pit were excellent companions and good with children. In fact it was not unknown for an injured dog to be transported home in a pram with the baby! Although dog fighting and other barbaric pastimes of the day were patronised by the aristocracy - Lord Camelford reportedly owned a famous dog called 'Belcher'- fighting dogs were also owned by the poorest of families. The pit dog was a favourite with miners and steelworkers and was prevalent amongst the chainmakers of the " Black Country " where the dogs were not only fought for entertainment but provided a working man with valuable extra income when worked against badgers or as ratters. With the introduction of the Humane Act in 1835, baiting sports and dog fighting became unlawful and a group of men in the Staffordshire area endeavoured to preserve their breed by introducing them to the show world. After much discussion the Standard was written describing the dog's physical attributes and this dog was named the Staffordshire Bull Terrier to differentiate him from the English Bull Terrier. The Staffordshire Bull Terrier was officially registered by the Kennel Club in 1935 and the first club show for the breed took place in August 1935 at Cradley Heath in the West Midlands where 60 dogs and bitches were entered . The founder club was named The Staffordshire Bull Terrier Club and is affectionately known as 'The Parent Club'. There are now a total of 18 clubs in Great Britain and Northern Ireland ranging from the North of Scotland to the West of England. The breed received championship status in 1938 when CC's were awarded for the first time at the Birmingham National. The first two Champions of the breed were Ch. Gentleman Jim and Ch. Lady Eve. The popularity of the breed has now spread abroad with well established clubs in many countries including Australia, Eire, France, Germany, Holland, Spain and the USA, to name but a few. Over the years the Staffordshire Bull Terrier has become a successful show dog and a serious contender in the Terrier Group, where they frequently have the highest number of entries of all dogs in the Terrier Group and are occasional winners of Best in Show. More importantly the Stafford has become a popular pet retaining the attributes gained from generations of fighting dogs bred for courage, tenacity and most important: total reliability and affinity with people and in particular children


    This is the breed standard af the (english) staffordshire bull terrier:

    General Appearance
    Smooth-coated, well balanced, of great strength for his size. Muscular, active and agile.

    Characteristics
    Traditionally of indomitable courage and tenacity. Highly intelligent and affectionate especially with children.

    Temperament
    Bold, fearless and totally reliable.

    Head and Skull
    Short, deep though with broad skull. Very pronounced cheek muscles, distinct stop, short foreface, nose black.

    Eyes
    Dark preferred but may bear some relation to coat colour. Round, of medium size, and set to look straight ahead. Eye rims dark.

    Ears
    Rose or half pricked, not large or heavy. Full, drop or pricked ears highly undesirable.

    Mouth
    Lips tight and clean. Jaws strong, teeth large, with a perfect, regular and complete scissor bite, i.e. upper teeth closely overlapping lower teeth and set square to the jaws.

    Neck
    Muscular, rather short, clean in outline gradually widening towards shoulders.

    Forequarters
    Legs straight and well boned, set rather wide apart, showing no weakness at the pasterns, from which point feet turn out a little. Shoulders well laid back with no looseness at elbow.

    Body
    Close-coupled, with level topline, wide front, deep brisket, well sprung ribs; muscular and well defined.

    Hindquarters
    Well muscled, hocks well let down with stifles well bent. Legs parallel when viewed from behind.

    Feet
    Well padded, strong and of medium size. Nails black in solid coloured dogs.

    Tail
    Medium length, low-set, tapering to a point and carried rather low. Should not curl much and may be likened to an old-fashioned pump handle.

    Gait/Movement
    Free, powerful and agile with economy of effort. Legs moving parallel when viewed from front or rear. Discernible drive from hindlegs.

    Coat
    Smooth, short and close.

    Colour
    Red, fawn, white, black or blue, or any one of these colours with white. Any shade of brindle or any shade of brindle with white. Black and tan or liver colour highly undesirable.

    Size
    Desirable height at withers 36-41 cms (14 to 16 ins), these heights being related to the weights. Weight: dogs: 13-17 kgs (28-38 lbs); bitches 11-15.4 kgs.

    Faults
    Any departure from the foregoing points should be considered a fault and the seriousness with which the fault should be regarded should be in exact proportion to its degree and its effect upon the health and welfare of the dog.

    Note
    Male animals should have two apparently normal testicles fully descended into the scrotum.


    This is the site of the breeder were i bought my second staff. http://www.quinlent.nl Look at the tab "thoughts about the breed", i share the same vision as Marco does. ;) And if you look at the tab "in the spotlight" you see some good show dogs that i personaly prefer. And if you take a look at the tabs "boys" and "Girls" you see my Bono's family :D Some of them look heavy but the camera ads a few pounds :eek:

    I hope i've answered some of your questions...

    Cheers,

    Rik
     
  6. Rik

    Rik Pup

    That is the down site of a open breed standard. I reckon they made the first breedstandard in a pub with a big pint. But some people take it to strikt...

    Some history pics. This are dogs that are in every staffords pedigree. Sow you can reckon how much the breed is messed up by show breeders...

    Ch. Jim's Double of Wychbury
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    Ch. Gentleman Jim
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    And a pic of three diverend types:

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    Cheers,

    Rik
     
  7. Rik

    Rik Pup

    And i have to say that they have chaged the breed standard several times. They wanted the breed to be smaller. That is the reason why a lot of staffies have a droping topline when they walk or even when they are standing. And that is the same reason why a lot of staffies have a short upper arm...
     
  8. I used to have a Staffie but it was before digital cameras so I have no photos to offer. In terms of character, it is quite similar to the AST and APBT. With humans they are great (nicknamed "Nanny dogs"). As far as I know about the standards, they range from 14 to 16 in and weigh 24 to 32 lb. But you will find all that easily on the web. Regarding history and origins of the breed, it is still debated today, but it is not so closely related to the APBT as the AST is. Here are two typical Staffies:

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  9. Atomic Dog

    Atomic Dog Big Dog

    The two dogs above which are show type are becoming less common in the UK. Certainly not typical which can only be a good thing imo.
     
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  10. I know only the show type dogs as noone in France is working with Staffies. There are only two bull-type dogs working on the whole territory : one APBT in the South as mountain rescue dog, and one AST in Paris working as a victim research dog. I have heard of one AST hunting in pair with a Pointer but as a hobby...and that's all...Ring is forbidden for all Terriers except for the Airdale. They cannot even take the basic working ability certificate since the 1999 law...
     
  11. Rik

    Rik Pup


    Yes, i've noticed that too. That's a very good thing, it makes me happy.

    The last pics from the fat boy, i can't magine that that dog can last 1 hour next to my bike. I think that would kill him.
     
  12. coop-dog

    coop-dog Big Dog

  13. matty

    matty Big Dog

    This Red dog is mine iv only just joined the forum so dont know how the picture got on here!lol! anyway when i figure out how to post il put some recent ones up of real sporting staffords.
     
  14. Turner

    Turner Big Dog


    I look forward to it! Your dog is a very good looking Stafford
     
  15. matty

    matty Big Dog

    Here we go a few pics of some of my staffords.
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  16. Turner

    Turner Big Dog

    Gah I love your dogs!!
     
  17. matty

    matty Big Dog

    Cheers I do my best to keep them fit and able.
     
  18. You on THL aren't you Matty? Did you manage to shift all your Pups mate?
    Butch
     
  19. matty

    matty Big Dog

    Yes all pups went i kept a bitch back my self there all doing good.
     
  20. matty

    matty Big Dog

    This is the bitch i kept back out of my two dogs 14 weeks old now looks like she will be a little firecracker and not your typical short overweight stafford.

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