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Slatmills?

Discussion in 'Products & Equipment' started by TopBox, Jun 14, 2011.

  1. TopBox

    TopBox Top Dog

    I am looking to get a slatmill. I have always used carpetmills but i am looking for a slatmill now and am having problems finding some. Ive seen Dogtrotters and RPMills...is there anyone else out there building mills? At a working mans price? 1700 for a mill is high to me! I could build 8 carpet mills for that price.
     
  2. BoogiemanBlood

    BoogiemanBlood Premium Member Premium Member

    Well build 8 carpet mills then.
     
  3. cutt

    cutt CH Dog

    or just make one, and sell the other 7
     
  4. TopBox

    TopBox Top Dog

    Im looking for alittle more wind from the slatmills and i already run carpet mills but if you would like Boogie ill sell you a few of them and send the money to Dogtrotter
     
  5. Steeldog

    Steeldog Big Dog

    I've looked all over the place myself. Dogtrotters and RPmills are are the only makers unless you find a used somewhere closeby. Is RPmills even are reliable seller anymore? I've heard bad things.
     
  6. TopBox

    TopBox Top Dog

    I emailed them yesterday and the shipping was going to be 350 and the mill was 950 after the crate and other things....so i might as well go with the Dogtrotter...Now if RPM is a good seller i do not know.
     
  7. norseman

    norseman Big Dog

    TopBox: You could always have a few steel frames welded up by a local weld-shop or a friend - then paint and assemble yourself... keep one sell the other and break even....

    Follow this thread and you should be able to mangae a build. Go with the split type go-cart wheels instead og the plastic lawnmower type used....

    http://www.game-dog.com/showthread.php?t=35552&page=1

    ....or you could go with what cutt is trying to say..... build 8 carpet mills, sell them and use the money to pay for the slatmill


    Boogie... have you gotten up off your butt and built one carpet mill yet ? ? ? ? ? ? LOL
     
  8. 6sN7s

    6sN7s Top Dog

    go for dogtrotter, better spend a little more money on some quality

    only in the netherlands i know 4 people who build slat mills. how can u not find another in the states?

    ps: they dont get much cheaper.
     
  9. norseman

    norseman Big Dog


    6sN7s.... you are not understanding the mans dillema....
    If you don't have the cash.... you just dont have it and you need to figure out plan B....
    its not down to spending just alittle more for the best.
     
  10. TopBox

    TopBox Top Dog

    Well said Norseman...I have a problem facing my money on the dogs more than the slatmills...the carpetmills are good but then i spend alot of time hand walking which isnt a bad thing just hard to work two dogs at a time.
     
  11. Mextra

    Mextra Big Dog

    You could always look into the Dog Trotter kit for 999.00 its at the top of the page
     
  12. norseman

    norseman Big Dog

    TopBox... is your Carpet Mill free turning???? I build one that is real nice and free truning I kept my dogs in real nice shape this winter with four feet of snow and -20 degrees celsius.... I did do some hand walking as well but not everyday and I wouldn't have been able to have them in the shape.

    If i were you I would build another carpet mill real free turning and tinker with the one you have and have a crapet mill race going on.... if you have the floor space..... should be fun for the dogs.

    Free turning carpet mill = with a good flick of the hand/foot the crapet should revolve a full 1.5 times minimum. Does yours do this???
     
  13. TopBox

    TopBox Top Dog

    No they arent that free spinning but one makes a good 1 to 1.5 turns the other is one of my first and its the one i use for strenth out of the dogs....The freer spinning mill revolves alot easier with a little wd-40 between the carpet and mill. I have heard countless times that the carpetmills are hard on the dogs kidneys. How do you feel about that norseman?
     
  14. A carpet mill can build wind to, keep what you have and just modify your conditioning.
     
  15. norseman

    norseman Big Dog

    TopBox,

    My rule of thumb is "Too much of one thing is no good but plenty is OK."... that goes for anything in my book.
    I have only experiance from free turning Carpet Mills and I cann't say I have been plauged with kidney problems or hot feet or any thing else I have hearded mentions. Make note, I have not used it daily in a 40 day keep. More like 3 to 4 times a week in the winter months. Mostly hand walking in the sommer.
    Don't use your hard turning one daily just to be safe

    Back to your Carpet mill..... well mine accually.... I use industrial type carpet that has thin white felt fabric instead of rubber on the down side of the carpet and I make sure to have a nice slipperey surface on the running board... in the USA Plexiglass is real chaep... or if you have some scrap lynolium type flooring use this... then you could use silicon spray, better than wd40 in this case.
    If you cann't get a hold of the felt type carpet I mentioned you could use the carpet rubber side up but it will make a mess... I have never tried this by the way, and I don't think I will either.

    I also make sure the carpet has about half an inch of clearance from the sides of the mill frame or side walls however your set is, this to reduce drag, and the rollers have guides on the ends of the to make sure the carpet doesn't slop around from side to side when the dog is running on it.
    The rollers without the carpet on them should be really free spinning with the flick of the hand, Mine have ball bearings and spin really well.

    What you think?
     
  16. slim12

    slim12 CH Dog Staff Member

    well put norseman...the kidney issues are not as carpet mill related as a lot of people think...the first thing to look at is whether the mill operates smoothly...when the dog steps/runs each time a pad hits the surface the carpet/belt moves with it....smooth operation is far more important than free-spinning...once it is determined the mill moves smoothly then that will dictate time and frequency on the mill...the harder it turns the less time per run/per session....the more free it turns the longer each run/each session can be....in past times the harder turning mill was preferred for 'power' and 'strength' and 'push'....the slat mill was for 'wind' and 'stamina'...both pieces of equipment can basically do the same damages to the body from over use....and the over use often came with a dog not being emptied out prior to work load...since the harder turning carpet mill put a lot more pressure on the body and the dog "needed" X amount of minutes (because that is what Joe from down the road said he was doing) and the dog had another dump to go...there was kidney damage...so instead of saying, "i should have put the dog on that hard turning mill for less time and ensured he was empty before starting", i say, "that damn carpet mill will ruin a dogs kidneys" and then the myth snowballs from there...take the same dog, do not empty him and double and triple his time on the free turning slat mill and his kidneys will give up to over time....
    short story long....make sure it is a smooth operating mill first....then let the 'free-ness' dictate times for the dog....better yet, let the dog dictate when he should come off....and ensure he is empty and all will be well...the mill i make will turn 3 to 4 turns with one hard hand pull....the dog trotter makes about 6 to 7.....so the carpet mill i make is in the ballpark....slow walk/trot the dog must power the mill along...but the mill will free up and allow him to go all out with out the 'normal' carpet mill drag...best of both worlds....best of luck....
     
  17. TopBox

    TopBox Top Dog

    Well i thank the both of yall for the information. Very well put and alot of help....Ive never ran into a problem with my mills that i have and i always hand walk before the mill and make sure the dog empties. I guess its just all the hype about a slatmill compared to the carpet that has me wanting to try one. Was just trying to get alittle more ease on the bulldogs. My dogs have never ran short on time due to wind so i guess ill probably stick with what i have.
     
  18. slim12

    slim12 CH Dog Staff Member

    i was not trying to talk you out of a slat mill or even talk up the carpet mill, mine or any others....the slat mill is nothing more than a tool just like anything else....using any of them correctly will give the desired effect...i have used both....but of all the tools i prefer a six foot lead and a good pair of shoes....but to each his own...US1
     
  19. TopBox

    TopBox Top Dog

    I agree with you slim the best tool is a lead and sweat....the bond brings heart and wind like no other
     
  20. norseman

    norseman Big Dog

    Well put slim, agree
    But its nice to have a mill ready to go as well, especailly in the winter months of when it is pissing down with rain.... LOL

    TopBox... will you be making adjustments or modifications to your mill ?
     

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