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Shar-Pei as sport dog

Discussion in 'Dog Discussion' started by ReFainer, Jan 25, 2020.

  1. ReFainer

    ReFainer Pup

    Hello
    Firstly, i would like to apologize for my english, but i am not from an english-speaking country.
    I have very little experience with dog sport and i have had 2 pits and a Central Asian Shepherd dog.Some time ago i came across a shar-pei (not the modern type at all, he has wrinkles only on his head and back). I set up a training for him with some other dog and it did fine.Id like to know if that dog can become game at some level, like not to be the top dog like a game pit but id like him to have some skill at the dog sport.
     
  2. F.W.K.

    F.W.K. Top Dog

    My advice, leave the pooch alone and forget all what you was wishing for that dog.
    Raise him right and keep him out of trouble, a well raised purebred Shar-Pei is a nice companion, and a good guard for house and family. It isn't to compare to an APBT in any form, it is just a total different dog
    They aren't bred for combat purposes anymore, it will make a nice pet, that's all.
    Best of luck.
     
  3. david63

    david63 CH Dog

    What kind of skills and what kind of sport are we talking about.
     
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  4. ReFainer

    ReFainer Pup

    Thank you for the response,F.W.K
    I wanted to see your opinions for the training of that dog because i have seen a sharpei-argentino match where the sharpei had really beaten up the dogo and i thought that i could make my dog similar to that kind of skill and game.In the matter of making it an-APBT opponent i am completely sure that it cant be that good of a fighter.Anyways if you can think of any methods i can apply to train him i would want to hear about them.
     
  5. F.W.K.

    F.W.K. Top Dog

    Can't give any advice about what you're asking me since dogfighting is against the law.

    All dogs fight, to a certain degree, which means nothing compared to an animal bred for the purpose, all described dogs are not.

    Just keep the dog in tip-top shape and enter him in legal dog sports.
     
  6. AGK

    AGK Super duper pooper scooper Administrator

    Good luck with that.

    I agree with FWK
     
  7. ReFainer

    ReFainer Pup

    Thank you all.
     
  8. Hey freind..why do you want to see a Sharpi killed buy a Pitbull?
    is it because of the strange belife that it will make the meat tender?
    ive read Chows and Sharpis taste just as good if there shot first.
     
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  9. oldguy

    oldguy CH Dog

    Your living in the past man! Let me put it this way! There's a 50 gallon plastic diesel barrel in my back yard.. When it's empty I will clean it, then paddle to America to buy a Gator Mouth puppy, I'll paddle home the same way with my pup and smuggle us both into UK in the dead of night.. Maybe a stretch of the imagination, but no more than you trying to make a game dog out of a Shar-pei! Curry yes, game dog no!

     
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  10. ReFainer

    ReFainer Pup

    Ok,i got it.But can he perform well at some other sports with the proper training or the shar-peis are just housedogs with no sport use?
     
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  12. GK1

    GK1 Big Dog

    Shar Pei, like the Chow Chow originated in China, both generally aloof dogs in character, so I’ve read. What are the cultural influences on the Chinese regarding relationship with their dogs? (a country which consumes tens of millions of dogs per year…)

    For a dog to lay his life down for his handler against beast or man, I would think the dog would have been selectively bred for many generations for human devotion, trainability - at least as much as the physical traits. Maybe I’m off key here, but I don’t see these Chinese breeds having the genetics for work/sport as the breeds of Europe, of the Americas, nor were they intended to have such traits. JMO
     
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  13. oldguy

    oldguy CH Dog

    Once you get involved in legal activities with a Pitbull, I can't see you considering any other breed after that, really nothing else come close man!
     
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  14. ReFainer

    ReFainer Pup

    I know that dude it cant be anything close to a APBT but i just want him to be like athletic and sport-loving dog because i like that breed of dogs and their history and not because i think that he can overperform an ABPT.So like i want to know if he can handle hiking,running and some other activities.
     
  15. oldguy

    oldguy CH Dog

    You never know until you try.. Seeing is believing!:-B
     
  16. david63

    david63 CH Dog

    If that your gold hiking and running activity I don't see why not.
     
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  17. F.W.K.

    F.W.K. Top Dog

    Hiking, running, retrieving tennisballs, fly ball, some bycicle/road work, swimming, a sound and matured Shar- Pei can handle that. Entering the dog in a fight will be a cruelty to animals, so be wise and enjoy your dog as it should be.
     
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  18. ReFainer

    ReFainer Pup

    Is it possible for that breed (because i heard for some breathing problem in them) to run on a dogs treadmill and (because ive never had such problems with my APBTs) what are the possible signals that he cant handle it?
     
  19. Though opinion about the ancient origin of a Chinese Shar Pei is widespread and conventional, it in fact is no more than the one of hypotheses. Although the ancient statuettes resembling Shar Peis do exist, they can represent Pugs or Chow Chows as well. Historically dogs never were an object of much worship in the Chinese culture, and there are no competent sources helpful in tracing the history of the Shar Pei breed before its first appearance in the USA. The theory alleging an ancient origin of Shar Peis is disproved by Marco Polo’s notes, for instance. He had been living in China for several years but never mentioned Shar Peis in his notes published in 1271 after his return; meanwhile he described Pugs and Chow Chows in detail. What seems to sound more trustworthy is a history of Chinese fighting dogs. It started right after 1751 when the Chinese emperor permitted a seaborne trade in the Pearl River Delta in Guangzhou. The first Chow Chows also appeared in Great Britain in 1775. Gambling was outlawed in China, therefore when British sailors introduced a dogfight, a common entertainment in those days, it briefly became extremely popular in Southern China. Due to paucity of English dogs participating in dogfights Chinese tried to breed their own fighting breed by crossing English breeds like Bulldog and Mastiff with smooth-coated Chow Chow. Likeness of a Chow Chow and a Shar Pei is evident. And the Chow Chow is the only breed in China which was used as hunting and shepherd dogs and as companions as well. And it is Shar Pei that is also known by these talents.
    Since the end of 1950’s dog of fighting breeds have been remaining only in Hong Kong due to the Communists’ struggle against dogfights. Their further destiny is cloaked in mystery. Dogfights were underground and small wonder there were no any written records except the records of stakes. The very existence of the Chinese fighting dog breed itself is still disputed in China so far. Many consider the Chinese fighting dog breed being extinct and recreated in 1960, although it is known that Hong Kong Kennel Club registered the breed as early as 1949 and these dogs can be considered thoroughbred Chinese fighting dogs.
    In attempt to preserve the breed some of Hong Kong breeders crossed these dogs with Bullmastiffs, Chow Chows, Bulldogs, Boxers, Pit Bulls and other breeds possibly, unwillingly or intentionally creating as a result a new breed – Shar Pei. Since then Shar Pei breed is developing in two different directions. First is the original fight dog – Chinese Shar Pei and the second is the American type of Shar Peis originated in Hong Kong in 60’s.
    What was the purpose of crossing the Chinese Fight Dogs with other breeds? Probably there were two intentions. One was an attempt to improve the qualities of few fighting dogs remained and recreate the breed which was on the edge of extinction. Other was probably an intention to create a unique breed fully satisfying American customers. The brand new breed eventually was bred, distinguished by more solid bone structure, greater number of wrinkles, large head, smoother hair and mild temperament of the American Shar Pei. This new breed won American breeders’ favor at once, which thereby provided a buoyant demand for it.
    American period of the Shar Pei breed’s history is another story, and we shall return to it some another time.


    Автор: Yana Mishina
    Сайт автора: http://www.sharpei-club.com
     
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