Raw or Commercial

I feed my dogs Iams Large Breed Puppy & when I have the Money I prefer to get the new Eukanuba Natural Lamb & rice Adult Maintenance & I also buy a 10lb bag of Chicken Quarters , Brown Rice , Yams . boil the chicken rice and yams alltogether for about 1/2 hour dont matter if its cooked thru then i grind that all up in the blender & pour over the kibble. I like this best because you dont have to worry about providing all the nutrients like in the raw diet because they get that in the kibble. Overall excellent feed small firm stools & really gives thedogs the extra energy they need for WORKING. Im also onna start adding fish oilto this Ill let yallknow the results of that.

 

When I asked what the big deal with chicken bi-product was, all I got, was it was BAD... Is this just what you had been fed by the media, or do you know from actual experiance..?? In my experiance, the dog food that is loaded with corn for #1 ingrediant is BAD... I saw coats, muscle tone, activity level, all deminish in quality.... My dogs look great on what they get... for the price, I cant beet it... Were I live, I would have to get the fancy shmancy stuff delivered.... and the cost are outragious if you want to be able to spend money on your dogs in other aspects, and suport yourself and your family at the same time... If you think about what they would be eating in the wild, chicken biproduct might not be all that bad...
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IMO while by-products aren't the best cuts of meat, they are parts consumed in nature. I've yet to see a dog or wolf only eat the muscle tissue of its kill, in fact the first thing they go after is the internal organs. And by-products are largely composed of organs along with the beaks and feet, etc. Short of implementing the $$BARF$$ diet, which I most certainly would if financially able, I believe a quality commercial food such as Diamond (green bag) is the next best thing. And by the way even Ol' Roy is prob. better than what a lot of past champions were kept with. I'm not endorsing it just stating a fact.

 

When I asked what the big deal with chicken bi-product was, all I got, was it was BAD... Is this just what you had been fed by the media, or do you know from actual experience

Canines are not meant to primarily eat corn, wheat, by-products, ect... As Crash97 stated: carnivores do consume the whole prey including the organs, but these foods are not acceptable as a steady diet! The protein source and quality is very important and that’s were many people get confused. The protein food should be of HIGH QUALITY. Most commercial dogs food companies use the cheaper less quality ingredients because it is CHEAP and means more profit for them.

My dogs look great on what they get... for the price

Key words “FOR THE PRICE”. Enough said right there that is the problem with most people involved with these dogs (half ass care). But yet when the dogs don’t work out for whatever reason it’s never the owner’s fault. Even though they received sub-standard care their entire life and never afforded the opportunity to develop to their true potential.

Were I live, I would have to get the fancy shmancy stuff delivered.... and the cost are outragious if you want to be able to spend money on your dogs in other aspects, and suport yourself and your family at the same time...

Then you should cut back on the amount of dogs you keep. If the amount of dogs you have don’t allow you to feed them optimally and provide the best of care.

On a side note GrChPitBitch; you asked me why it was bad (by-products)? Hopefully I’ve answered your question. But tell me why it is not bad. And no I didn’t receive my information from the “media”; I’ve taken the time to research it for my dogs.

 

Hey, I feed my pitbull Nutro and Bil Jak, but I'm going for a bulk look. I've feed pitbulls, Akitas, and labs Bil Jak and it has been great. Also I give them raw and cooked deer meat that I would even eat.

 

These are the ingredients to Black Gold. It's what I feed my boy and he seems to be doing well off it. If I can get better then someone please tell me in dummy terms why this stuff is bad for him when he seems to be very healthy.....!!!

Meat Meal, Corn Meal, Corn Gluten Meal, Ground Wheat, Poultry Fat (Preserved with BHA, Citric Acid and Mixed Tocopherols-Source of Vitamin E), Chicken By Product Meal, Dried Beet Pulp, Natural Poultry Flavoring, Salt, Potassium Chloride, Brewer’s Dried Yeast, Sodium Propionate, Choline Chloride, Zinc Sulfate, Ferrous Sulfate, Vitamin E Supplement, Zinc Oxide, Manganous Oxide, Copper Sulfate, Vitamin 812 Supplement, Niacin, Biotin, Vitamin A Acetate, Calcium Pantothenate, Thiamine Mononitrate (Vitamin B1), Calcium lodate, Sodium Selenite, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride (Vitamin B6), Menadione Sodium Bisulfate Complex (Vitamin K), Riboflavin (Vitamin B2), Vitamin D3 Supplement, Cobalt Carbonate and Folic Acid

 

was wondering wht people thought about Bil Jac and if its good to feed for bulk and strength. Thanks

 

I think the best thing for a person to do before he decides what food to feed or switch his dog to, is to pick up a book or log on to a website and do some reading. Before you can understand what dog food will do what or what will be the best for your dog, you should understand how a dog's system works. How nutrients are processed and how their body utilizes them. I know that when I got that understanding down, it was a lot easier for me to choose what to feed my dog. That way I wouldn't just be constantly switching and asking eveyone's opinion on what dog food is best. Check out some of the links we have in our links section. You'll find the information very useful.

 

“tell me in dummy terms why this stuff is bad for him

Meat Meal, Corn Meal, Corn Gluten Meal, Ground Wheat, Poultry Fat (Preserved with BHA, Citric Acid and Mixed Tocopherols-Source of Vitamin E), Chicken By Product Meal, Dried Beet Pulp, Natural Poultry Flavoring, Salt, Potassium Chloride”

Minimal quality meat sources, corn, by-products, beet pulp, BHA (potential cancer causing), flavoring, slat and potassium (too much salt can irritate the digestive tract, and upset the calcium/potassium balance in your dog) these are just some of the reasons this is a poor quality feed for a carnivore.

 

I feed a commercial feed daily and every other day my dogs get raw chicken necks.There is nothing wrong with feeding the chicken or beef,as long as you don't overdo it.Make sure the meat is fresh and hasn't been handled too much.Your dog has natural bacteria in their intestines ,so as long as your dog is healthy and you don't overdo the meat it is good for them.
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