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proper staffs

Discussion in 'Staffordshire Bull Terriers' started by jacko, Nov 26, 2010.

  1. NewSchoolDogMan

    NewSchoolDogMan Top Dog

    pitbull and pit dogs are completely different. I am aware that the staffybull was utilized in dog matches in England,Ireland, and Scotland. They were used there prior towards dog matching even began in the Americas. Lines such as Dublin Reds, Psycho, Flynn, etc. are all still prominent. However, the term "pitbull" is used to denote the American Pitbull Terrier, unless if you are talking in the perspective of BSL. No "real" dogman would refer to a staffybull as a "pitbull" now.
     
  2. bandog billy

    bandog billy Big Dog

    luckily am still up at this time bud. Are you for real,do you honestly beleive what your saying ?? your so wrong,what,are you implying that us over here call a staffy a pit ?? .>>the term pitbull is used to denote the american pitbull terrier<< ,fuck bsl,do you really think .. pah!! a dont know what you think .
     
  3. NewSchoolDogMan

    NewSchoolDogMan Top Dog

    If you aren't calling the staffy bull a pit, then why was your previous post filled with the confused emoticon? I'll remind you:

    "I doubt any "real" dogmen would tell you that the pitbull was nothing before being "americanized." The reason for this is because the term pitbull is used to denote the American Pitbull Terrier, not the staffordshire bull terrier. :confused::confused::confused::confused: oh dear!! im outta this conversation bud,good luck"

    Highlighted in Bold are your words. Everything else, you quoted me. If you aren't referring towards the staffordshire bull terrier, then why are you confused? The post before this refers to you asking me that "real" dogmen would tell me that the pitbull was nothing before being "Americanized." However, I am telling you that the pitbull is used to refer towards the APBT, not the staffybull. By this logic, it would mean that England didn't have APBTs before the dogs reached America and were bred towards American Dogmen's standards and then some were imported back towards Europe. Don't know why you're confused? Also for the future, please check your grammar and please quote using quotation marks. This is, afterall, your language (assuming you're from England). Btw, I should hope that you don't refer to your staffybulls as "pitbulls" since pitbulls are banned where you're located. Just a heads up incase you don't realize this.
     
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  4. bandog billy

    bandog billy Big Dog

    Only in your head buddy -- >>However, I am telling you that the pitbull is used to refer towards the APBT<< . And of course england didnt have apbts before the went to america,we had pitbulls,not staffy bulls,and also for the future,just so you dont get any more confused,everyone and i mean everyone in the uk knows what a STAFFY is,no such thing as a staffybull,youd be laffed at calling a staffy a staffybull,cor blimey me old china,get with it.
     
  5. NewSchoolDogMan

    NewSchoolDogMan Top Dog

    I thought you guys didn't call the staffy a "pitbull?" Also I highly doubt I'd be laughed at for calling a staffy a staffybull, seeing as how the breed's official name is the staffordshire BULL terrier and not staffy. Staffy is just a shorthand term used to reference the staffordshire bull terrier. Now as for you guys having "pitbulls," you guys didn't because, like I mentioned earlier, pitbull is a shorthand to denote the American Pitbull Terrier, just like the term staffy is used to reference the staffordshire bull terrier. Even your own nation's laws support what I stated, or were you unaware of the Dangerous Dog Act of 1991 in which England has banned all "pitbulls," aka the American Pitbull Terrier but the staffordshire terrier is perfectly legal over there. LMAO man you need to brush up not only on the Tosas, but on your own countries laws and terms.
     
  6. bandog billy

    bandog billy Big Dog

    fuckin idiot
     
  7. n2bulldogs

    n2bulldogs Banned

    NewSchool, you should start your own message board about every suckey ass fighting dog that isn't a Bull & Terrier. It would be great, you could talk about how badass Akitas are, how Tosas have samurai warrior spirit, and even about the hidden gem of the game-dog world... the devastating sharpei. that would be awesome
     
  8. n2bulldogs

    n2bulldogs Banned

    on second thought maybe that's a stupid fuckin idea
     
  9. NewSchoolDogMan

    NewSchoolDogMan Top Dog


    LMAO you sound like an ignorant dumbass. For one, the shar pei isn't a hidden gem, the Tosas standards states this, and well bred akitas make fine working dogs.
     
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  10. NewSchoolDogMan

    NewSchoolDogMan Top Dog

    LMAO you don't even know your own countries laws, you contradict yourself several times, you know nothing about the Tosa and yet remain adamant on what you've assumed (which is false). My good sir, the only fucking idiot here is you. "Bandog Billy" huh? More like a Hill Billy. Why don't you go brush up on your supposed knowledge of the Tosa by doing a little reading while choking on your fish n chips.
     
  11. n2bulldogs

    n2bulldogs Banned

    NewSchool = deep game douche bag :D
     
  12. n2bulldogs

    n2bulldogs Banned

    doesn't change the fact that you're "teaching":rolleyes: us all about them in the Staffordshire Bull Terriers section of a gamedog site. are you lost or what??? just sayin'
     
  13. NewSchoolDogMan

    NewSchoolDogMan Top Dog

    I merely stated something, I wasn't teaching shit, just informing. However, you guys immediately followed up with these dogs aren't up to par, which is a misconception, so I brought that up. To be honest, I'd take a staffordshire bull terrier over a Tosa any day, however, I won't bash the Tosa either. I thought this site was for learning about "game dogs?" It just so happens that the most known gamedog is the American Pitbull Terrier and staffordshire bull terrier (if you can still call them game. Even the working staffs are hard to come by now). Does this mean that we should not mention other notable "gamedog" breeds such as the English Bull Terrier and other dogs used for the "game" of dog matching? Or would you prefer to be ignorant? I don't know why your being so defensive and get offended so easily. Grow thicker skin or better yet, just jump the pit like the little cowardly cur that you are. From the getgo your hackles were flared, or is that what you and your dogs are known for? LOL
     
  14. bandog billy

    bandog billy Big Dog

    fuck your tosas,a lil bit of this is wattcha want idiot -http://www.game-dog.com/forums/showthread.php?t=44531
     
  15. Bastian

    Bastian Pup

    I really interesting tread this. I didn`t know that Shar Pei could look like that. I knew that they were old fighters, but it was nice to see a picture of a game Shar Pei.
     
  16. blanch

    blanch Big Dog

    was quite an interesting thread until all the bitchin started
     
  17. NewSchoolDogMan

    NewSchoolDogMan Top Dog

    Pretty dog you have over there, now here's a real Tosa Inu because it is obvious you haven't ever seen one you dumbfuck. This dog is a proven dog btw and resides in the Japanese Honshu Island. This dog is going for his yokozuna title, equivalent towards our Gr. Ch. title.

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  18. NewSchoolDogMan

    NewSchoolDogMan Top Dog

    The dogue de bourdeaux used to be a breed used for this combatative sport as well. However, the dogue de bourdeaux of old are long gone.
     
  19. n2bulldogs

    n2bulldogs Banned

    "Dog fighting has been a popular spectator sport in Japan, although in a significantly different form. Tosa fighting is very similar to Sumo wrestling, and follows similar rules. The two dogs are placed in a gazebo-shaped ring ten feet in diameter in the presence of a chief judge, two assistant judges, and three or more examiners. The dogs attempt to push each other out of the fighting area. The time limit is 30 minutes and typically the fights last no longer than ten minutes. Failure in the fight is decided if the dog whines, groans, or gives up by attempting to run away from the other dog or due to sheer fatigue, is unable to get up again. Approved fighting is between male dogs only."

    So, tosa fighting in a nutshell: two 100-200lb males squeeze into a 10 foot pit and "push" each other around for a maximum of 30 minutes, but most will be too tired to continue, whine, or quit in more like 10 minutes... They should rethink the whole samurai spirit thing I'd say.
    Look man, I'd take any combative breed over any other type, but it's absolutely absurd for you to place these curs on a pedestal with the GAME Bull & Terriers
     
  20. madboy

    madboy Big Dog

    your right!............thats why the filipinos are decreasing their weights by breeding to gamedogs..............l wonder why;)
     

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