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picking out the right pup out of a litter

Discussion in 'Breeder Discussion' started by grave digger, Jan 6, 2010.

  1. TheVictor22

    TheVictor22 CH Dog

    I'm wicha on this. this is how i picked my last pup. When i picked Duchess. she was the runt. i would have been a fool not to pick her after seeing how she handled her littermates. She was the runt and smaller then the rest but that bitch was eating good.


    Vic
     
  2. wardogkennels

    wardogkennels Top Dog

    I don't thing there is anyway to tell which pup is going to be the best one in the litter. I let the pup pick the owner. Whichever pups comes up to me and trys to hang out with me while the other ones are doing whatever. That's the one I pick. I also like the one that is generally running shit. The one that eats first cause the rest will get growled at or beat up for coming near the food dish is also a nice one to pick.
     
  3. alpay

    alpay Big Dog

    quietest and most small :)
     
  4. Naustroms

    Naustroms CH Dog

    Thats how my pups sister was. Basically everything I look for in a pup but at that time I was deadset against not getting another girl. She was the runt, wouldn't take shit. Buckskin with a black mask, pretty as hell. I kick myself everyday for not picking her instead.

    But I keep tabs on all his littermates so only time will tell if I made the right choice.
     
  5. GemCityPits

    GemCityPits Big Dog

    its always hard to tell... i usually look for the most confident and active pup but like stated before its a roll of the dice, i kept 3 out of my last litter and the male that had the most fire in him and would get pissed at the other pups and chase em away from me draggin em across the room hes about 1 year and 2 months old now and the coldest curr you could find lol but one of the 2 females i kept turned on real early and dont take shit from anyone theres really no way to tell at that young of age if you wanna raise your chances get all the pups lol:D
     
  6. synno2004

    synno2004 Top Dog

    Littleman syndrome :D.

    There is no full proof way of choosing a pup. Yea it gives you an idea but nothing is guaranteed, evaluating a puppy at an early age gives you a better chance to see structure-wise how he is going to look when he gets older. character? it take a bit longer to judge and evaluate while some pups stand-out at a young age they will change.

    Evaluating a puppy, what are you looking for? work, pet, conformation?

    good luck on your quest.
     
  7. csotelo9388

    csotelo9388 Big Dog

    i will looking into getting a pup in the very near future,but i want it as a family pet.i want my kids to luv,n grow up wit this breed.any suggestions
     
  8. outrightmike

    outrightmike CH Dog

    i look for attude and strength.the true old time dog man i know always said ill take the uglyest one.always thought that was funny but he got some good but ugly dogs!
     
  9. crushbones

    crushbones CH Dog

    i like mines ugly as hell too!!....just down right filthy ugly!!!....lol
     
  10. Patch O' Pits

    Patch O' Pits CH Dog

    A pup that meets the needs and expectations and requirements I look at deemed the pick pup. Pick of the litter means different things to different people. because not everyone wants the same type of dog.

    There are a few main things are that are looked for when my evals are done. Of course no eval is totally foolproof, but they can be extremely useful.

    I look at these factors as related to the breed standard of the org the pup is registered with...
    -proper temperament
    -working drive and ability.
    -structurally correct
    - overall health

    Often I see kennels advertising show or working quality pups that are newly born which there is no way to tell if that will be the case so early. You certainly can't look at a couple of week old pup and know much of anything besides that it is cute and its color. You can of course also see if the pup has some obvious issues like a tail is kinked, if it has cleft palate at that time though.

    When you have a great litter picking becomes harder and harder as many may fit the bill. Then other little things that aren't as important may factor into the final choosing.

    IMO Color should not be the basis of making a pick. Of course it is OK to have preferences with all other things about the pups being equal, but the other things listed are what is much more important. The sex of the dog may or may not be a factor if there is a preference, but it does not affect the quality as a whole to which is actually the pick of the litte

    Then evaluation tools such as Puppy Puzzle, Volhard Puppy Apt test etc are extremely useful so is just daily observations of the litter and individual pups.
    Links:
    Volhard Puppy Apt test
    Volhard Puppy Aptitude Test
    (I like to adapt this to my own needs and eval)

    Puppy Puzzle shows how to eval structure. A pup at 8 weeks as long as they are not born premies, true runts or have some other major health issue will pretty much give you a good idea of what the dogs adult structure will be;
    Dogfolk Enterprises - Videos, Books and Seminars for puppy evaluation and dog showing

    After a proper eval is done it is easier for a breeder to help a potential new owner be matched to the right type of pup for them.
    What the new owners are looking for in a pup ie. show, working home or both or solely a pet needs to become a factor in placements. This helps to make for both a happy owner and happy pup. This is just one of the many reasons it is important to really get to know and trust the breeder you are dealing with when purchasing a pup. JMO.
     
  11. reids

    reids Big Dog

    in the litters that av had for some strange reason the one that comes out chewing its leg seems to always turn out the best.its crazy but a stick by that.
     
  12. familydude

    familydude Big Dog

    I heard this from an old man a long time ago but he told me pick the one that looks to be the first to get hit by a car if let out and thats the one you want. makes sense to me really. If you use that youll always get a pup thats active not really afraid of anything and loves to check stuff out, whether itll grow up to be a good one is another thing though.
     
  13. phill

    phill Top Dog

    all i usually look for is the one that has the least cow hock
     
  14. madboy

    madboy Big Dog

    l've noticed that in alot of litters,is it because of constant inbreeding? more like a trait these days?.
    Apart from conformation, does this affect the dogs health,bone structure?.Most [] dogs l have seen have the cow hock.
     
  15. phill

    phill Top Dog

    i don't think so some breeders are very pickey and wouldn't even concider breeding dogs that weren't perfect ..recentlly a person offered to giveme a i think a male about 5 years just can't keep up with what he has it looks from the picture to have some issues but very well bred i'm probally gonna accept his offering similar to mine and like mine pretty much the last of his kind i have to breed it
     
  16. AGK

    AGK Super duper pooper scooper Administrator

    There could be a reason for that, and you don't HAVE to breed it because of it being the last of the blood. If the dog turns out to be (by whatever measure you use) faulty in any way, would you still breed it? My point is, there should be more to your decision to breed than, I have these 2 dogs and they are the last of their blood. I'm curious as to what the pedigrees on these dogs look like.
     
  17. madboy

    madboy Big Dog

    Can someone please explain to me why 90%of bull dogs are born with COW HOCKS . l realy dont know and l'm curious about the health issues.Can it grow out by physical conditioning ?. Thanks.
     
  18. AGK

    AGK Super duper pooper scooper Administrator

    I have 15 years invested into bulldogs and have only seen pictures of dogs with that issue, I wouldn't say 90 percent have it, that number is way too high. I have seen many in my short time and not one of them had that problem, maybe your gene pool over there is weak and needs some new blood. :confused:
     
  19. madboy

    madboy Big Dog

    l probably over done it with the %,but l'm not talking about UKC show dogs here,l'm refering to the tight inbreeding.l ain't no breeder either,my intention is to ask why and how?
     
  20. AGK

    AGK Super duper pooper scooper Administrator

    I knew what you ment and dont look at ukc dogs as APBT's, My reference was gamedogs. I realy don't know crap about pretty show dogs, i've never owned them. All my dogs are tight linebred/inbred and I never have that problem. Most people I know with dogs off game lines, the dogs are more often than not inbred or linebred at some point in their pedigrees......It's when you over do it that you start to see that kind of genetic issues within the breed as well as purposely breeding dogs known to have and or carry that gene....
     

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