Pick a line and prove your point..

in an 04 publication you'll see jeep (19 pts) above frisco (14 pts) with mayday and yellow also at 14, buck at 11 pts, werdo and tab both had 9.

but, that was a 4 yr old publication. i'm sure things had changed since then, and a lot of circulations are defunct now-a-days.

i don't know, but the saying of "those who need to know, know" would seem to apply to the direction which this thread took.

i've read something on this board that a member posted...."people who have a yard of frisco dogs always have a backhoe to complete their kennel set up. but you better watch out for the ones that are on a chain." he was joking at the beginning of that, but seemed serious about the end.

 

if you count the points today Mayday is a Top Rom dog he produce more that frisco,jeep and others.

http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=142065
http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=274786
http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=250222
http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=179569
http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=151119
http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=127427
http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=98843
http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=100893
http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=251808
http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=51088
http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=103626
http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=57314
http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=78466
http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=79667
http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=87736
http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=10787
http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=5577
http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=2433

 

Eli x Spook
Rascal x Honeybunch
Midnight Cowboy x Piggy
Cherokee Chief x Dirty Mary
Mr. Rogers x Queen of Hearts
Buck x Daisy Mae

 

http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/offspring.php?dog_id=121386 NOTHING SPECIAL BUT NOT A BAD LITTER. i GOT A SON OFF Max.

 

http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=175386
Can't remember exactly how many but at least 2 CH's plus a few winners in this litter

 

My dogs grandsire.

 

i have a son of max and a daughter of chiko to gold deluxe might do the breeding this yr?

 

I have to throw Dibo in this mix, out of 33 pups 17 of them are recorded CH's, thats what 51% success rate? I'll like those kind of numbers.

 

This dog made ROM with only 9 offspring.

http://apbtpedigrees.com/printpedigree/printout.php?recordID=31597

The offspring are phenomenal as well. I researched many of the dogs and pretty much all were potential champions or were retired ether as brood stock or injuries (loosing hardware, etc).

I have a granddaughter and she is phenomenal. I may found my own stock on her.

 

here another good dog and producer http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=278216


http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=147618
http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=155212
http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=198078
http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=216172
http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=225513

 

The Chinaman name appears in many of today's pedigrees. His contribution as a producer equals, or exceeds his dominance as a performer. Among his better known offspring were Ch. Eightball, Ch. Cotton, Ch. Chinabuck, Ch. Chinagirl, Ch. Stormy, Ch. Missy, Ch. Chinarose, Ch. Ninja and Ch. Crock. He had three sons (Brodt's Boar, Cottingham's Cotton, and Shockley's Header) go over the 3-hour mark on the same weekend! Perhaps his greatest contribution is as a producer of producers, as his son Frisco ROM has produced more champions and grand champions than any other living stud. Today Garner's Frisco ROM has gone on to surpass Garrett's Ch. Jeep ROM as the greatest producer in history.<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p>

 

So CJ wut dogs would you pick for you list?

 

Does anybody know which was his best litter?

 

I mentioned it earlier but i'll throw it in again...RASCAL X HONEYBUNCH

http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/siblings.php?dog_id=67873

If you even look at the offspring of Rascal bred to daughters of Honeybunch there were some great ones too:

http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=9553

http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=199

http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=4209

 

I'm partial to the Mitchell's Sam http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Public&file=printPedigree&dog_id=192538 line of Panther dogs, but as only 8 of his offspring are listed as titled on online peds, I have to go with Paperboy Kennels and there line of Jeep/Redboy/Rascal dogs through Jeep Rhino(1xGL) http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Public&file=printPedigree&dog_id=64467. He is ROM, majority of the dogs behind him are titled or ROM, he produces producers, his mother & father are Champs, alot of his uncles and aunts on the top and bottom are titled, the majority of his listed full and half-siblings through his mother and father titled, 12 of his offspring on this link are titled, and 2 more of his offspring on this link are titled- http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Public&file=printPedigree&dog_id=141945 (same ped, just entered again with a different pic) in addition to my cousin's male, Tito(1xW-1xGL), who is not listed, but is from the same litter as Livingston's Piranah http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Public&file=printPedigree&dog_id=74318.

 

Jeep wasn't bred as much as Frisco and neither bred as much as Mayday. Jeep lived and died with JG he recorded all his stuff and stated jeep was bred to 40 about 40 bitches but let's say 50 to max out.. That still wasn't more than Frisco.. I respect them all as great producers of history. Last record Jeep was ahead of Frisco but it doesn't matter who got the top spot because they are dead and gone.

 

Oh yea to look at how great Jeep produced, not only did he sire I believe 19 Chs but how many lines are off him or easier let's look at a few of the producers he produced Werdo, Abbe, Jill, Smiley, Tab, Shorty, Tramp, Rock, Turtle and Floyd. Those aren't just the good producers those are the dogs off him that were recognized ROM.. Also its believed one down from his lineage is also top ROM now and that is GrCh Blackjack who has something like 18-20 Chs

 

joe montana

http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Public&file=printPedigree&dog_id=356649

offspring
http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Public&file=offspring&dog_id=356649

produced well,most of the bitches that he was bred to werent even tested and he still produced.

 

bullyson.........................

 

Art's "MISSY"