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Discussion in 'APBT History' started by kiwidogman, Sep 29, 2018.

  1. AGK

    AGK Super duper pooper scooper Administrator

  2. slim12

    slim12 CH Dog Staff Member

    The lady on the right looks just like Mrs. Stapleton, "Edith Bunker" on 'All in the Family".

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  3. sunbeam

    sunbeam CH Dog

    you have this labelled as pit general but it is infact sunshine
  4. slim12

    slim12 CH Dog Staff Member

    I commented on the last picture of the post.

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  5. sunbeam

    sunbeam CH Dog

  6. slim12

    slim12 CH Dog Staff Member

    I had not read the CAPTAIN rendering in a number of years. I believe he passed a couple of years ago. RIP

    There was a lot of truth in what he said. But there was also a lot of truth in what he said about other and in turn 'he did the same'. In the early 90's, near Orangeburg, SC, just as he said it was a hot bed for dog men.

    When he saw Cotton 'get lucky' and squeak out a W here in NC he called on him. As Cotton looked like shit. He mentioned keeps. Cotton's keep for #2 was a slat mill, a 12 pack of beer and a couple of joints. When the weed and beer was finished the workout was complete.

    When Cotton changed hands and won #3, on his correct weight and in shape, against the Chavis-Tant-Gainey crowd, most of the same crowd for #3, there were no offers nor callers.

    I enjoy reads like the above as much as anybody but like everything, it should come with some perspective.

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  7. oldguy

    oldguy CH Dog

    We call it the beer n' gear keep slim...The only kind of conditioning a dog gets around these parts haha!
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  8. F.W.K.

    F.W.K. Retired Historican

  9. F.W.K.

    F.W.K. Retired Historican

  10. at one time I was close to a guy called ron he had tex , peaches and all those dogs
    went to jail and dogs ended op at his wife I think
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  11. F.W.K.

    F.W.K. Retired Historican

    Alex, Larry, and West Owners of WRK with Eagleton's"Pretty Boy Floyd"1XW

    Versace is a 6xer with 2 contracted. He lost game his 7th time out to Ch. Napalm(rip) in a classic bout.
    Garcia & West's Black Bill A.K.A. Versace sired by West's Ch.Apollo out of Davis 'Dollface.
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  12. Forever-So REAL

    Forever-So REAL Quintuple Grand Champion Premium Member

    Anthea was bred by Genetic Kennels out of Komany Kennels’ Gr Ch Nabuco and the one time winner Genetic’s Saint Annie. Now, before we move on I’d like to share a few words about Gr Ch Nabuco, he sure deserves it! Nabuco was bred by Radek as well, and was sired by Mladen Krkeljic’s legendary Champion Giroux dog, a four time winner that went a draw and later lost his last game against Gr Ch Crnooki. Nabuco’s dam was Genetic & Goodson’s Tasha, a pretty good producer of game dogs bred down mostly from Carver dogs. When Giroux was bred to Tasha they produced the two time winner Naomi, the two time winner Clyde, who also lost one game and Nabuco, who won five at between 49-51 lb: Pristina Boys’ Crveni in 1:45, Sekula’s Slavko in 1:20, Extreme’s Ombre in 38, Dingo & Celas’ Kan in 1:45 and Captain’s Mag in 32. So, with that being said, let’s get back to Anthea, I’ll even skip the “intro” part and jump straight into the action! Anthea’s first outing was into Strong’s (Roman’s) Sugar at 36,4 lbs back in 2007. Anthea was handled by Locco of Black Gold Kennels. Referee Pitfans of Factor Team. Sugar came in at 36 lbs. Anthea was in a really bad shape, with milk in her tits because of a false pregnancy. She was so dehydrated that we had to give her IV fluids and at the weight-in, she came in at 36,8 lbs. Now, keep in mind that Anthea’s real pit weight was around 37,5 lbs. Anyway, Sugar’s camp agreed on the weight and the match was about to start…Sugar starts out with a real offensive attack working the front legs and chest. Anthea is playing in a more defensive style, trying to get the front…without any results… she is really weak. Luckily for her, Sugar doesn’t has the mouth of an alligator either. Anthea is working the head from the bottom. After a few scratches each, the pace becomes a little slower, and at around 1:30 Anthea finally manages to get on her feet, and starts working on the head. She keeps it like that for 20 more…til Sugar starts to sing! Sugar’s turn to go and she scratches.

    Now Anthea’s turn…and she makes a real hard core scratch. A few minutes later Sugar is sings again. At 2:07 it’s Sugar’s turn again, but refuses. Anthea makes a real fast and game scratch. Anthea’s second was into the Viking Boys’ Ginger at 37,5 lbs back in 2008. Ginger, was a sister to Champion Vigo and Madziar Chain Kennel’s two time winner Meba. Both dogs on weight and in great shape. Referee Columbus. Ginger starts out very fast destroying the left shoulder and all the toes on the right. In the meantime Anthea is working the nose real hard. After a few scratches each, Ginger’s battery is losing charge and breathes heavily because of the damage Anthea did. At around 1:20 Ginger’s handler proposes a draw. Proposal not accepted. Finally, at 1:35 Ginger is picked up, and maes an incredible dead game courtesy. Anthea makes a deep game courtesy as well.

    Some time later Locco of Black Gold Kennels ran into some personal problems and decided to give Anthea back to her breeder, Radek of Genetic Kennels. Radek didn’t wasted much time and Anthea was hooked at 35,2 lbs into a two time killer named Perka. Referee Paco. So, after a short journey to Casablanca the show is to begin! Anthea was conditioned by Radek and she is in an excellent shape and very focused. You can see the fire burning in her eyes. Perka’s camp is absolutely confident in their dog, making comments about how hard Perka’s mouth is…but what about her gamenes? Now, that is something that no one has a clue about yet…Dogs meet in the middle with a crack, both losing a teeth! I never saw something like this before! Perka is like a monster truck. Anthea is playing a defensive style, working the head while trying to hold Perka out. It’s 1:50 already with no turns, no out of holds. Both are doing their thing but it seems Perka is losing some power and she’s going downhill. Anthea is exhausted but feels it’s now or never. It’s time to switch from defense to attack and gets into the throat and stifles! Perka is on the bottom. After a perfect handle it’s Perka’s turn to scratch…and she completes a real slow dead game scratch! Anthea’s turn to go and she gets into the throat again. Perka is picked up at 2:19, but it’s too late already. Only one more to go for Anthea and…Genetic’s Champion Anthea!
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  13. david63

    david63 CH Dog

    She's definitely a badd girl.
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  14. Forever-So REAL

    Forever-So REAL Quintuple Grand Champion Premium Member

    Wanderlei Silver 4w (Axe Murderer)

    Wanderlei Silva Axe Murder comes from the breeding of Chainman’s Conan, a Garners Tudor Imp a tight Chinaman dog bred to Ch Kendra a Frisco x yellow bitch and
    the bottom side a hard biting Frisco bitch Cm’s Klein Xena, bred top to bottom Garners Frisco. Wanderlei Silva started at a young age and showed great composure, average
    bite and high ability and has earned his 1W Title status at the age of 21 months ending
    the career of his first opponent. He is considered to be an all-rounder with a good
    finishing. Following is an illusory report of his sensational career as a combat dog.
    There was a hype going on in the mother city about this show with Troy having more
    bets before the show than Wanderlei, others even joke that they will bring all the
    money from their bank account and how Troy will brutalise Wander. 1W Troy was a
    Buck skin dog, a grandson of IMP POR Sangre/ the grittier blood. He was said to be
    the master of the muzzle like his littermate brother Yakuza who won a 2x Beast by
    sitting on the muzzle.
    1) Wanderlei Silva vs 1w Troy
    The night came where TROY would meet Wanderlei at a neutral venue. As we took in
    Wanderlei in for weighing the very moment he saw the pit he started to go ballistic
    and restless screaming to be released. We finally got him on the scale. Upon release
    both dogs meet in the middle with Wanderlei immediately going for the head and
    Troy pushing in the chest and shoulders area. Troy got in the left shoulder for a few
    seconds initially and it was like Wanderlei saying to him you’re not going to get in
    there again. And so, the contest went on with Wanderlei on solid-, unbreakable
    defence on the head and ear, riding out the determined Troy and waiting for his
    opportunity to counter on the stifle which didn’t take long at 5min he had Troy on the
    floor rinsing his stifle had like it was up for grabs. After about 8 minutes it looks like
    Wanderlei has figured out Troy and slowly comes down from the deep Stifle hold to

    the side of Troy’s muzzle. He then shoots in hard into Troy’s throat and kept him
    down while working him over. Troy’s gets up very angry and goes on the muzzle
    which made his corner go wild screaming that’s the Troy we know and bets started to
    fly for that moment as he makes Wanderlei push while defending on the muzzle. It
    wasn’t long till Wanderlei took him off with a devastating shoulder hold that made
    Troy go down and now Wander would grab the ear and turn- and throw him on his
    back and work the shoulder stifle and gut those intense body slams is slowly taking its
    toll on Troy’s vitals. At 20minutes Wander is way ahead and Troy starts protesting but
    continues to look for good holds while Wander dances with quick feet keeping him
    out. It’s now 30minutes and Troy has not done any real damage on Wander getting
    only a few shots on the shoulders. A turn is called on Troy and Ref grants it. As
    Wander continues to punish Troy, biting his reproductive organs making his corner
    quiet, the only words came out of his corner was he will scratch all night yet Wander
    with systematic changes between ear, shoulder and throat he demonstrates his
    powers. At 40 minutes Wander is now mopping the floor with Troy who has now
    excreted blood and dung which fills the air with a foul stench and he is just lying there
    as the owner refuse to pick up Wander not only sense, but also smells the imminence
    of the end and starts to push with great ferocity into the throat closing it shut like an
    apex predator in the wild suffocating him by his nose that Troy started to scream and
    as a handle came he wanted to bite his own handler but he forcefully gets to the
    corner and like a dizzy drunk dog didn’t seem to remember where he was and got
    counted out at 10th count making Wanderlei Silva Axe murder 1W at 59min as a few
    more minutes Troy would have died in the pit.
    Special thanks to Team M-FIT and 27

    We decided to bring Wanderlei out again for number 2 into a 1w again, so called out
    winner that goes by the name BJ but his weight wasn’t 20,5kg he had changed
    division to 19,5kg then we called out Josh a 1w but there was no response from the
    owners even though we offered to meet half way this show was never going to take
    Finally got a response from Chain Gang Kennels who also had a 1w who was known
    for eating the muzzle off like it was his fav meal. Cyrus was his name and a great
    grandson of IMP Teacher top and bottom side. He apparently was from the litter of
    destruction as there was only winners from him litter and a Looser. This litter was
    supposedly to be the gameness litter. But that was about to change as we believe
    only the box will tell the truth like any wise man action speaks louder than words.
    2) Wanderlei vs 1w Cyrus
    The night finally came where the two were to meet. We got to the ring and Wander
    knew what was about to happen getting restless looking through the car window to
    see where his victim was as i tried to keep him calm. Mr ref took the agreed fees from
    both sides with Cyrus to weigh first. I remained in the car with my partner my friend
    taking care of Cyrus’s weighing. Then finally the moment the crowed was waiting for i
    could say 20+ heads came to see this as Wander enters with a white towel covering
    his head. All one could hear was the crowd going crazy some shouting he is a boxer
    and few bets were made by those who believe in the Axe Murder Wanderlei Silva so
    we proceed and washed i knew what was about to happen Wander started screaming
    as he was being washed as he wanted to be in the box. The two 1x winners hit hard in
    the middle and immediately began to swap hold for hold, shaking and fighting hard in
    and all out was. The fight was pretty much even for the first 3 min as both dogs tried
    to out power the other with Wanderlei driving and driving into Cyrus. The two dogs
    were fighting hard and furious then Wanderlei started displaying like the famous
    words of Mohammed Ali (float like a butterfly sting like a bee) taking ear, chest,
    throat and shoulders hold making Cyrus look a bit stupid as he couldn’t catch the
    speedy Gonzalez whose legs where on nitro after feeling how Cyrus bit on his muzzle
    at 10 passing Wanderlei off to the limit wanting to finish Cyrus quick by driving into
    his throat but like a die-hard cyrus refused to lay still he came back up with
    vengeance taking wanderlei by his ear shaking him off his feet like a rag, he did for 2
    min making his team go wild that’s it my boy the owner said to him praising him so
    that he mustn’t take bottom again but like a devil’s advocate Wanderlei took him off
    by his stifle hold biting cryus off his feet showing him what he was all about, Wander
    begin to show that he is real head terrorist, he sticks as a glue on Cyrus’s head, being
    a smart dog of excellent wrestling abilities, fast, strong, wind as submarine punishing
    the living hell out of him wiping the floor with him if it was a stage show u could’ve
    said it was all his stage alone as Cyrus protest what pitmen calls a remix screaming in
    pain looking for the muzzle which kept failing until 35 where one could think after the
    throat jabbing and stifle would be sure that his soul was busy living at that moment
    but as game as he was said to be he managed to hold on for dare life on the muzzle of Wanderlei and did some big damage on the lip which made wander fang now

    randomly and he was forced to do what he does best chock the living life out of Cyrus
    by closing his mouth and nose we asked the handler for scratch to continue but he
    rejected it thinking he was doing any justice for his dog. I called on the great one the
    demons of all demons lucifer out of wander to finish up as he was starting to slow
    down after working 1hour he started to break the front legs one by one swopping to
    the stifle at 1;19 he thought he finished and thinking cyrus was dead, a quick handle
    out of hold was made with Cyrus in shock not knowing what planet he was in i
    grabbed wander to his corner and like he normally do screamed to be released and
    on the other corner Cyrus out of it, both front rare broken failed to stand and all the
    gameness was bitten out of him and to the 10th count he was out and he cur.
    Wanderlei still screaming to go for more i released him like a rocket straight for the
    throat making a strong statement that he is now declared a 2xw and BIS for a valid
    Special thanks to C Gang and his Team for the show


    Handsome Rob was a 1W exceptional bull dog that have earned his spot in the dog
    fraternity also a good producer bred Tudor- a heavy Early JR dog x Baby Rouge a
    Mayday Buck bitch.
    Weight pull 20.5kg
    Ref ordered both dogs to be released Handsome Rob shot across and nailed Wanderlei Silva
    deep in the chest right in the middle of the box and immediately Wanderlei went into Rob’s
    face taking him off from the nose and then switching to the ear, Rob kept pushing in hard and
    trying to slam Wanderlei into the corners where he could do some damage, but Wanderlei
    would just spin out on the ear and once again Rob was chasing thin air and was now moving
    on a fast that Rob must have thought he was surrounded. At about 10 min with Wander being
    more athletic and showing wrestling ability, he managed to hit Rob w bleeder on the right leg
    making Rob angry that he took Wander from bottom by his chest as if he was going to throw
    him in the air. Wander being a typical one he refused to take bottom by handling Rob on his
    head ear back and forth as he felt how Rob was bringing the music to him whenever he could
    break the defence seeing that he couldn’t get more of the throat he decided to go more on
    front legs hitting Wanderlei a bleeder that Rob’s Corner did cheer for that moment and a bet
    was made from team Wanderlei but no takers. Wanderlei knew what he was suppose do to
    stay out of trouble but because he was now very angry as Rob made him sore he took him by
    his right stifle working it viciously that he didn’t care were Rob bit him while trying to take him
    off, he work that backend hard for good couple of minutes then lost grip in the same process
    which have Rob an upper hand to hold him on his head forcing him to push which he only did
    for few seconds then he went into the throat pinning Rob from an angle then swopped the
    hold for an ear hold then the (old timer laughed and said wander was not killer he can’t kill Rob
    on the ear this is wonderland) it wasn’t long after that being said a turn was called on Rob and
    he made his scratch wander also scratched afterwards. Feeling Rob getting weaker Wander
    started to work more and more like he just started, it was time to shine and a joke was made
    that Rob Was not going to walk out of the box alive. I started to whistle the whistle only Wander
    knows when it’s time to shine he mopped the floor as if he was a cleaner cleaning the floors till
    Rob was out of it trying to gasp for, air. This proved that Wander is just too fast that team Rob
    said so themselves and pit smart. Rob possessed was a fast mouth & hitting the throat hard
    but the gruelling pace of the fight began to tell on Rob, & Wander looking fresher and found
    his way to the throat (Checkmate) where he settled like a apex predator making a kill, he didn’t
    shake yet stuck like glue, with Rob helpless not knowing how to get out of the awkward hold
    which he some foam started to come out of his mouth and eyes rolling back into his skull like
    heavens was calling on him for the next few minutes yet bleeding heavily on his armpit ,
    Wander put on a display of a true Killer that left many seasoned dogman shaking they heads
    that one of Rob fans lost hope seeing that there was no way Rob was making a comeback from
    this kind of hold they screamed Rob is busy dying making the handler ask for scratch to
    continue and we rejected . It wasn’t long Rob managed to Get up on his clumsy feet like. As he
    was still trying to figure out what planet he was in at 1:05 Team Rob conceded and asked for a
    curtesy scratch.
    Respect to ST-MAN For a great show

    Yayo was bred out of Blaze a son of Ch Brisco a hard biting dog over CH Cyrus x Ch
    Toshca from the big John stock. We all know the outcome of the crosses of Frisco
    and the jeep blood. He was a 1x winner who won in 10 min was said to be off the
    chain (he didn’t need a keep) as he had an EXTREMELY hard mouth and gut
    specialist. He has earned a good reputation that dogs on his weight were scared to
    take him on. There was talks that he would have Wanderlei for a snack or he would
    kill him under 10 reasons being Wander is a natural lean dog and Yayo has killed Ch
    Bucko with that signature move of the lock jaw in the gut, a pure evil dog. Seemed as
    the ST-MAN had it all figured out he decided to come for seconds.
    The day finally came where the 2 finally met the show that many have been
    anticipating almost like JONE JONES VS DANIEL COMIER match of all time. Weight
    21kg, Ref orders dogs to be released in released Wanderlei and he got a YAYO in his
    corner as his handler wanted to release him into the stifles but it was a missed call
    with Wander landing on the head and straight into defensive mode living Yayo to
    push and look for holds on the front rare where he had some nice holds, shaking the
    soul out of Wanderlei moping the floor in the first few minutes into the match
    making his corner go wild like we were at a stadium chanting a and cheering yayo to
    go into the gut faster than the Flash with lighting speed. First attempt he couldn’t
    get into the stifle or gut but like a crocodile he finally had his way at 4min and it was
    said the show was over with that one hold. They under estimated the Ch and his
    defence skills and he doesn’t like to get hurt like Floyd Mayweather too quick he
    was out of trouble taking Yayo by the ear reminding him who was in charge. This
    goes on for about 10 min with both dogs going pound for pound when given a
    chance and yayo wanting more and more of the stifles like It was Wi-Fi hotspot. One
    would say he was China man himself. Yayo tried his best to go in the gut and stifles,
    Wanderlei with the height advantage and reach advantage he started to offend
    teaching Yayo how to bite stifles like a proper vindictive, doing damages and
    making holes like a AS50 sniper rifle on the stifles, the seconds protested how can
    you beat a dog like this he is a CHAMPION FOR A REASON he is a clever dog which
    gave mixed emotions to the handler as all the attempts Yayo tried getting came
    empty handed and had bleeder on the stifles that Wanderlei deposited before
    departing to full defence mode leaving Yayo to start chasing the legs again and tiring
    up running out of fuel and making the Champ take every advantage of the tired
    Yayo biting his front rare shoulders as soon as Yayo lays he would work his way to
    the throat then again Yayo’s corner would protest u f#$@ dog get up you can read
    lay into Wanderlei you are going to die tonight. This show was supposed to be
    finished under 10 minutes already I asked the handler what was happening as now
    the show is longer than 20 minutes already. We laughed it off. While the 2 warriors
    continue to rumble with Wanderlei in full control now doing as he please with Yayo
    who is now hopeless out of holds and whenever he tried to make a comeback he
    would only do it for few seconds then out of holds again leaving the Wanderlei the
    AXE MURDERER Silva to spring clean the floor with him. On the throat, face,
    shoulders head all around Yayo until turn was called on Yayo as he seemed lost in
    the illusions of a master at work.
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    AGK Super duper pooper scooper Administrator

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