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Discussion in 'APBT History' started by kiwidogman, Sep 29, 2018.

  1. oldguy

    oldguy Top Dog

    I don't know the Reid's Sugar female that's supposed to be dam of Gannion's Scorch.. What I can say is the breeding of Reid's Sugar is almost identical (if not the same) blood as I always understood Scotsman's Rambo and Billy Murray's Sheera to be out of.. I just can't state it as fact.
     
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  2. reids skipper

    reids skipper Top Dog

    Some percentage that oldguy ...11 out of 3 litters made it to the [ ]
     
  3. mixed-grill

    mixed-grill Big Dog

    Wishful thinking...the woman that bred Barney didn't work dogs...nothing more than a peddler...he was bred out of in her words 'a big local dog that was a looker'...as simple as that...got passed on a few times til his true worth was seen...a fluke
     
  4. reids skipper

    reids skipper Top Dog

    I know youve said this before mixed grill ... but what you forgot to mention is that i got told she was really good pals with JS from up our way who ran on klogger , billy stuff
     
  5. reids skipper

    reids skipper Top Dog

    What do you mean by passed on a few times till his true worth was seen ? You on about barney or his sire ?
     
  6. mixed-grill

    mixed-grill Big Dog

    All sounds a bit jackanory...but you believe what you want fella...makes no odds to me
     
  7. reids skipper

    reids skipper Top Dog

    I seem to think it was springview who said that he was from billy or a son of his as he corrosponded with nt before he passed away ? And you right alot of me wanted to believe it was billy ... so much that i contacted billys owner and he said he did mate a couple of bitches that JS had
     
  8. stedz

    stedz Big Dog

    I think the blood is certainly still out there,though in what form and how diluted i dont know,but for example i was talking to alad in my area about 8yrs ago,and he told me he had recently bought a dog from some Asian guy in i cant remember if it was birmingham or manchester,that was supposedly a grandson of Max,i was a bit skeptical at the time,until he showed me some photos on his phone,the dog had that classic look,and he told me he paid £ 900 ,for it.I was itchin to get a look at the dog in the flesh,but the lad was a well known drug dealer and i resisted the temptation to push for a look,which turned out to be a good decision at the time because i still had a dog myself and didnt need any unwanted attention.turned out his gang were all under police surveilance,and ended up going down,dont know what happened to the dog.it is also surprising the amount of times ive stopped to talk to people walking bulldogs not just skipper looking dogs,and enquired about the dog only to be told that they got the dog from a rescue centre,and they were told it was a staff cross lol.
     
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  9. reids skipper

    reids skipper Top Dog

    Eaststreet told us years ago that he was down fom a mayfield klogger cross then years later billy got mentioned ... suppose you right it makes no difference now to anyone else but i still have my old stuff down from barney so it always intrigues me :)
     
  10. reids skipper

    reids skipper Top Dog

    Stedz the bitch i bought was supposedly a grand daughter of max on top and curstopper on the bottom ... i looked at the pedigree and questioned the dates on scorch been a son of max ... Max must have been really old to sire scorch and scorch Must have been old to sire this bitch ????
     
  11. oldguy

    oldguy Top Dog

    I knew JS when he owned Champion Klogger and I liked him, he was decent young guy, trying his best to make a name for his dogs in one of the most competitive areas in the country.. He owned a Klogger x Mayfield male called Jakey that was making big waves in his area, JS told me he liked Jakey better than CH.Klogger, which was saying something!.. This would have been around 1990 and there was dogs lying in back yards all over the north east, some had papers and some didn't, most hadn't been fed or walked in days, but lay hell on anything on 4 legs.
     
  12. stedz

    stedz Big Dog

    Ask old guy skip,im no expert,lol.Its obviously doing your head in though.
     
  13. reids skipper

    reids skipper Top Dog

    Jake was the dog that eaststreet mentioned barney been out of years ago mate
     
  14. stedz

    stedz Big Dog

    was that jake a little 31lb dog?
     
  15. stedz

    stedz Big Dog

    Different dog.
     
  16. reids skipper

    reids skipper Top Dog

    On the pedigree i got for barney it has born june 91 ... breeder JS .... owned by NT
     
  17. oldguy

    oldguy Top Dog

    I can't remember Jake's exact weight bud, certainly it was low to mid 30's, just remember JS was high as a kite on the dog, I put in a couple of bids tried to buy him, but Northern Lad had plans for Jake and I lost out as usual:((
     
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  18. stedz

    stedz Big Dog

    Moving house at moment ,got all my old books and mags down from old mans attic ,flicking through an old pbn,went sraight to a litter of pups for sale by Nathan.lol.
     
  19. oldguy

    oldguy Top Dog

    Thanks for that mate, I never knew Nathan got bred, or I maybe I forgot! He looked more talented than his sire (ch.bash) but same bad attitude. Wish I'd got a pup.
     
  20. stedz

    stedz Big Dog

    give me a few days im right in the middle of it,and i will put the ad on here,found a few old bloodlines and gazzettes as well with some interesting stud adverts for red boy zebo wise dogs etc .put them onto, moving house is a fucking nightmare tho!
     

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