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Discussion in 'Dog Discussion' started by gypsyboy, Jun 27, 2012.

  1. slim12

    slim12 Super Moderator Staff Member

    True.

    Many 'working' dogs are what some called 'sleeve happy'. One of the protections tests the Filas go through is done when they are 'green'. They should bite what they can get to, regardless of the body part. Some even look for a 45 degree upward anlge attack going for the face/head of a person. I have seen them bite the sleeve with their feet off the ground and then let their sheer weight pull the handler forward as there front feet go to the ground. Then re-grip to the face.

    If they hit the sleeve and stay on the sleeve it shows training and then the judge can't see 'natural tendencies'.

    I had a Rottweiler once and we did some bite work with him. He trained me way more than I ever trained him. He would hit the sleeve like a ton of bricks. I am not so sure he would hit anything without the sleeve.

    I never knew anyone who would offer up their arm to see. LOL

    I was always taught there was a difference between a working/service dog and a sport dog, even when it looked like they were doing the same things.

    S
     
  2. Hahaha...that one i spoke of never gave no fucker the warm fuzzies, and after the squirt who owend it realised it actully took more then a inch of his dick,instead of add one,i beilve he then realised he had two much to handle..
    it takes all kinds man.lol it takes all kinds..and i doubt it would intrest a woman he radomly dated when she comes back to see cerubus sitting on the frame of a couch its just ate lol..

    and yup,sure as eggs is eggs in true hell hound/cerabus fashion,these ones two-just like your bandog.would happily gobble up a child.
    oh theyed actully drool over the sight of a kid.
    they really did take some beating as the best candidate for all round holy terror..my god man im suspicious of most people who breed these things.im like wow.really?
    like i no a loon who was not impressed with the mutts ive mentiond above.(lol,ive told ya it takes all kinds mate)so set out and went round the fucking world to get a Dogo, only to come up with zero..but a loon on a mission is a loon on a mission,and rather then be put of,he goes back around the world and gets a Pressa.
    now they are real nice dogs i have to say.from what i seen of this bitch speciman she was very athletic,had a naturel desire to gard and when i say gard hold like Civil the way GK says,was keen on grabing a dog to...and the loons knick named it "a Canery Pit" if any one asked what it was..it was a sly bitch.and a bit unpredicteble to say the least.but oh it gave its owner the warm fuzzies alright..and it would listen to his comands and it would die for him..as GK says you cant beat a GS a Mallios.and i wonder why some people/loons dont settle for these, as they can come of a attack as fast as they can attack and with a mear command.such qualitys are needed if you dont want to be on a murder charge.or use a breaking stick lol.and thats how are loons Presa bit the dust as it happens.
    the lad was robbiing or killing some one or whatever lol..and the local bobby who wants to be a hero is hot on are guys heals.but are guys Pressa was never leashed and was there roaming loose.so you got loon getting chased by a copper with the dog chasing the copper lol.
    Back up shot that dog just in time or the loon would of been on a murder charge.that dog had that copper down in the throat the way a Bulldog streches another one out..and all the kids in the area who incidently new the lad and dog stood there chanting at the dog killing the copper!..like a crowd who cheer round a pit lol.
    and what scum the plod are lol.that copper actully lied and said he was scared for the safty of the children...but anyways i belive the lad toyed with the idea of being the first to kill a copper with a dog but because of the shriks and screams the bobby was making he went back.
    but his command was useless and only the plods guns were effective..
    he got about eight years for that.
    i seen four of its pups to.crossed to a Bulldog ofcourse.
    one looked pure Bulldog.could have won a adba show it looked so Bulldog.
    The other three were the brindle color of a Pressa but apart from the brindle there was no sighn of Presa whatsoever as they looked like strong headed Greyhounds or like Bull cross Greyhounds...weird mutts.
    i seen it roll with other big dogs to.
    i never seen it with a Bulldog..but it would strech a big mutt out.it remided me of a big mutt Bulldog a bit,the way it rolled,and i cant help think theres some in there makeup..Sementric says they are used as gards but they are actully matched.and he makes no intesion to hide the fact either.
    Even tho this one was hell bent,and would not come out that coppers throat.it was a rather trackeble bitch if im honest..lol.as trackeble as you get a beast of this nature to be that is..i read somewere they got GS in them.maybe thats why this one was trackeble?(a bit)...

    As much as these big ceribus bull man eaters facinate me.at the same time they actully scare the shit out of me..
    and if i was gonna use a defence breed it would be one of the pastoral breeds rather then the mastiff breeds.
    But if i wanted to feed people to huge hell hounds on the other hand,the mastiff group would be dreadly delightful lol.
    and ide quicky recreate some near wolf mastiff type creature lol.useing a bend of every mastiff what showed undesireble traits to anything with a pulse,and ofcourse judas outcrosses to Bulldogs.
    LOL.

    All the best.
     
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  3. david63

    david63 CH Dog

    Soze I do not trust a Presa Canario dog. I just don't trust them around my kids.
     
  4. david63

    david63 CH Dog

    If I live byself I would have One.
     
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  5. It was a nice bitch this one David..and i would not of trusted it around kids either personly, but the lad had no issues with it and kids.
    I just would not of trusted it because it had a sly demeanor about it..
    ive seen a few specimans but i still no nothing about them.the one mentiond was the best speciman ive seen..but im not sure what a good speciman of one is if im being honest mate.lol.

    All the people who i no who have owned any type of these dogs have been punks..and there for, have been unsutible owners..we all no how it works.and this is no reflection on any comrads of the breeds.
    and anybody whos not a fucking punk and actully dose do right by one of these monsters deserves support in my book...
    the punk on the other hand, who wants a inch adding and gets some some sort securety,from his mad idea of crossing them all together to protect him self makes me shake my head in wonder..
    why not get a GS or Mallinos as i said?
    are these not tough enough for such people?
    lol.why not just get a fucking gun?as i suppose a 130lb Mastiff in the wrong hands has a lot in common with a gun..and thats not negitivity directed at the Mastiff breeds whatsoever,more like admiration for them..
    ive seen some complete moster dogs in totally wrong hands,and in totally unsutible surroundings for dogs of this type.the Sharpi headed, lion bodied one i mentiond,may well have toped the list lol.
    big monster dogs with small insecure owners are a recipe for desaster.just as bad as a unsutible owner of a gun really.
     
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  6. "Aboute his chaar ther wenten white Alaunts,
    Twenty and mo,as grete as any steer,
    To hunten the leoun or the deer,
    And folwed hym,with morsel faste y-bound,
    Colered of gold,and touettes fyled rounde".

    Knights Tale: CHAUCER
     
  7. ". . .vast,huge,stubborne,augly,and eager,of a hevy and burthenous body,and therefore but of little swiftnesse,terrible and frightful to beholde,and more fearce and fell then any Arcadain curre."

    Dr Caius: De Canibus Britannicus 1576.
     
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  8. "..The Mastiff Lov'd fighting better then is food......"

    "A Mastiff pass'd inflam'd with ire
    His eyeballs shot indignat fire"

    John Gay: The Old Ode.
    IX Fable.
     
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  9. "He belonged to a lost tribe.
    As I have said, he was brindled and gray like Rubislaw granite ;
    His hair, short, hard, close,like a Lion's ;
    His body thick-set,like a little Bull,-
    A sort of compressed Hercules of a dog".

    Dr John Brown: Rab And His Friends.
     
  10. Rambures: 'That Island of England breeds very valiant creature;their Mastiffs are of unmatchable courge.'

    Orleans: 'Foolish curs that run winking into the mouth of a Russian Bear and have there heads crushed like rotten apples.'

    Shakespear: Henry V, scean; Battle Of Agincort.
     
  11. david63

    david63 CH Dog

    I have watched those Presa Canario dog do man work too they just enjoy it too much.They like hamburger guess what you are.
     
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  12. Quite agree....that copper was not far of becoming a burger lol.
    i never seen it,but plenty witness did.

    They all similare to some degree i suppose..perhaps the Fillas and Presas are a bit more tricky with people then say a Dogo or a AmBull..though i cant be certain on that..and the end result if any of them come at ya,with a 100 lb+ weight, would all be the same...that is; a dead human.


    "And men have seen great Aluntes slay there masters"
    Garston Pheobus and Edward secound Duke of York..Master of game.1386.
     
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  13. GK1

    GK1 Big Dog



    I like the Presa pup’s attitude and conformation. Handler and decoy are no Lilliputians either. Also like the GSD in video 2. No animation from the decoy.. street clothes only.
     
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  14. LisaWM

    LisaWM Big Dog

    GK
    I admire the Dutchies & Mals from a far, they are impressive but a dog that wound up isn’t for me. Funny you mention the the game bull crosses that was an issue today, I’ll share that in the morning with pictures. Again great feed everyone appreciate your input it’s refreshing & appreciated. Dealing with most of the AB people is like trying to have a conversation with adolescent Neanderthals to say the least lol. Very mature & informative on this side of the spectrum
     
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  15. @ GK..that GS is a nice one..very aggresive but extreamly in tune with its handler..traits that are a must in a protection dog imo.
    And i like its head type and its shape.it looks solid.

    Them Pressas are just fucking insane lol...that one was not that aggresive.it was not as crazy as the one i seen GK,but its still a mean dog.and i would not like to be the dummy wearing that sleave, thats for sure..
    them dogs scare the shit out of me to be honest...
    the one i seen was far more intesnse then that one..lighter colour,with a longer tail not so curled up.more athletic and bigger with more of a pitbull look to it.
    but it had a similare disposition and head to that one..

    LOL..the one i seen would of by past the sleave and probably hit you in the face or throat lol.
    fucking dangerous LOL....
    and ive heard some folks over here cross them with Lurchers???
    im not sure what that would bring to the table by crossing a Pessa to a Lurcher?????maybe they want a gard and hunter??..not a cross ide ever consider lol.not for me im affaid.

    All the best.
     
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  16. Lrs

    Lrs Big Dog

    Nobody with half a brain would make that cross imo.
     
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  17. LOL.....
    i was like what???..when i heard it.then i seen one.and i was like why???
    give it more bone and power was the reply....lmao.
    more bone and power for the grey ones lol..cmon.really???

    I told em.90 lbs v 30lbs just proves how tough ya dogs are..
    Some fucking idiots out there mate.
    ones with no brain,let alone half of one.
     
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  18. Lrs

    Lrs Big Dog

    More the fact of crossing man dogs into sight hounds is just asking for a kid to be picked up imo mate same reason I won’t use gsd/mal lurchers.
     
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  19. Ive always been curios about a GS or Mal cross Lurcher...i thought they would make good ones mate to be honest?
    seen a first cross Mal/Grey that looked pure Mal..infact seven in that litter.all looked like pure Mal.not a sighn of Greyhound..wastege maybe?but looks are desptive.
    and its gotta be a better cross then Pressa.not unless you wanna course men lol.

    The humble Collie seems to be the most sensiblest cross.
    throw in a dash of Bull,and you should be fit to hunt most beasts in the world lol...

    Ill make some sort of dogs one day im sure.
    but then again.why not just work Bulldogs and sighthounds together,rather then mixing the two breeds?...good to take Boar and Deer then.hell of a team.Man/Bulldog/Greyhound.or Collie x Greyhound.

    But im just dreaming here ofcourse lol.

    All the best.


    Or
     
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  20. david63

    david63 CH Dog

    Soze Just remember what I said the Presa loves hamburger meat Guess what your A## is. Hamburger Meat. The presa is a serious dog. I don't trust them.
     
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