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our next Pres???

Discussion in 'Chit Chat' started by JohnsonKennels, Sep 7, 2008.

  1. JohnsonKennels

    JohnsonKennels Big Dog

    JFK or we can go back a little farther and say FDR
     
  2. JohnsonKennels

    JohnsonKennels Big Dog

    we are already in a depresion if you look at the unemplyment rate, gas prices, minimum wage, well-fare. how bad does it have to get for the average jo, before the big guys to hear us. I don't care about the Tax issuse, because i don't make enought money for it to apply to me or the majority of the nation.
     
  3. WWII

    WWII Banned

    Why these two?
     
  4. ABK

    ABK Rest In Peace

    I don't know if it's true or not, but I heard things started going downhill w/ FDR.

    And you know the funny thing, I heard welfare was only supposed to be a temporary thing to get us through the great depression. When did it become a permanent cradle to grave thing?? I think we should nix welfare. Maybe the unemployment would change & we could even put a dent in the immigration problem too!

    lol. :p
     
  5. JohnsonKennels

    JohnsonKennels Big Dog

    Cutting welfare altogether might boost the crime rate, when you take the easy money from those who scam the program, then they go take money by an means. i think there are those who truely need the help that welfare offers, but for the most part it is a way to sit on your ass or sell drugs, and not pay taxes, it's free money pay for by us (the working)
     
  6. JohnsonKennels

    JohnsonKennels Big Dog

    they looked at things in a different light, JFK took FDR's views on ecconomics and world relations and reworked them with at the time, up to date numbers and statistics, and the people agreed. the US now is looked upon as bullies, we push our ways on others to get something that benifits us directly.
     
  7. purplepig

    purplepig CH Dog

    Have a look at his irs return, he makes better than 3 million a year.
     
  8. ColbyDogs

    ColbyDogs CH Dog

    Thats where I have major issues, why should we pay anyone elses way because they cannot fend for themselves ?

    Why should we have to be punished for succeeding in life while those who fail are rewarded ?

    I am sorry but just because I have done good in life doesn't mean I should be forced to take on the burden of those who choose sit on thier ass and do nothing. I was not given the world on a string and have worked my ass off for everything I got and Obama thinks I should be punished for making something of myself....sorry no one and I mean NO ONE should stand in your way while you try and better yourself.

    I am not sure where you personally stand in life but I know what I have and I really do not want to lose it because of some radicals idea that I got life too good and now I should be penalized & discouraged from wanting more for my family and me. Our government should stand by our side in that strive for success not stand in the way of it and with Barry that is exactly what we are going to get.
     
  9. ColbyDogs

    ColbyDogs CH Dog

    Here is an even better idea

    Boot all the illegals out and force the welfare recipiants to get off thier ass and work those medicore jobs and earn the money for a change and for those that do not can go homeless and hungry.
     
  10. JohnsonKennels

    JohnsonKennels Big Dog

    in that remark, i was talking about the fact that the tax-reforms start at 30K/year. which is a hard amount to make with this crazy economy
     
  11. JohnsonKennels

    JohnsonKennels Big Dog

    is he spending his own money, or is he shoving his hand in the cookie jar like every other govern. official?
     
  12. WWII

    WWII Banned

    Are you asking about earmarks? If so, yes.
     
  13. purplepig

    purplepig CH Dog

    that is just reportable income, not counting kickbacks!!


    Someone had commented about the healthcare in Canada being just fine(government run healthcare), Well, since all my medical issues I am dealing with I go to a forum with others in the same boat, and some of them are in Canada, and acording to them, it is horrible. Maybe for a cold the government healthcare is okay, but having the government decide what/when/where of serious issues is a nightmare for them. The Michael More movie is a farce, dont buy into it. Remember there is always two sides to the coin, and he would not dare to put the opposite side on his Socialist movie. At least I can choose who and what is done to me.

    I started off just not wanting either in office, but I have decided that no Obama, no way!
     
  14. WWII

    WWII Banned

    A government run health care has the power to say who can or cannot receive treatment. And they still pay for it via taxes. I'm guessing the ones that love it are the ones that don't need dire operations that are put on hold because the government doesn't deem it necessary. :(
     
  15. ABK

    ABK Rest In Peace

    Maybe I just talked to lucky Canadians then? :confused:

    As for choosing when/how to get treated, maybe I just got unlucky? When I got sick I didn't get a choice in anything. They just send me to the ER, watched me a bit, gave me a pill & threw me out the door. I didn't get to choose my treatment or my doctor.

    But when I had insurance, ah, that was a different story! I still had no say over my dr.s or treatments, but I was put in the hospital for 3 days & had every test under the sun run on me. X-rays, MRIs, CT scans, CAT scans, you name it. I was sent to a both a cardiac & neurological specialist & even had a heart cath run on me which there is no way on God's good green earth I would have ever gotten w/out insurance.

    After eight years I was finally correctly diagnosed. I could have been diagnosed earlier but b/c I had no insurance, no one would touch me. :(
     
  16. yellaman420

    yellaman420 Big Dog

    All of the major politicians are changing their stories and fluffing up their resumes to look better on paper or in the public eye. Obama really dropped the ball by not nominating Clinton as VP. Even though 40% of the country wasn't voting age when there wasn't a Clinton or Bush in the house, they (Clintons) have the expertise to ease the transition back to progress. Bill did what he did, no doubt ;) but he could get other leaders to the table and make things happen. So for foreign relations, we the people are gonna miss out. No one runnin is expirenced, period.
    Not one of them have, IN DETAIL, discussed how they plan to jump start the economy and get us back to manufacturing and exporting quality goods, instead of importing Chinese crap (ie WALMART).

    We would have a lot more border security and less illicit traffic of drugs/workers if most of the troops stationed in foreign countries (not just IRAQ/AFGHANISTAN) were brought home. This would, INSTANTLY save us billions of dollars in spending. All the bases, employees and troops have to be fed, housed, have maintenance etc. support them. Where do you think this money comes from? Our pockets! Why do we need bases in NATO countries?

    None of the religious claims or beefs are even WORTH discussing. An act of God doesn't vote for reform, build a bridge or waste money. People do. We pray to God when we want,need, or feel the desire to. Lets leave God out of government and put him back in our homes and hearts where real education begins.

    The 16th Amendment is illegal!! No one voted for it, and it amounts to taxation w/ out representation. This is the one that created the IRS. Which brings me back to my original point:

    There is only one candidate out there who talks out of the only face that he has, Ron Paul. Every issue that is currently facing the country CAN be solved. Will we as Americans continue to buy the same old b.s. from the same old rich guys who have ruined this place. Or will we be bold enough to accept the heritage that we have been past down from our patrionic parents?

    The rEVOLution starts at home, starts with you, and ends with freedom.
     
  17. Speaking on the health care problem in Canada I have a 65 year old business partner that has been waiting for heart surgery for allmost a year now.. The reason this is is becasue the government sees that he is 65 and has lived a good portion of his life so anyone younger than him gets on the list first.. I also have another business partner that says in Canada you dont even go to the doctor for the flu for you have to take a number so to speak and by the time you get into see the doc the flu is already gone.. Gov run health care is the worst thing that could happen to this country..
     
  18. For anyone who wants the truth about the Myth that is Obama go to this site.. I just get tired of hearing everyone talking about him being the first "black" man to be nominated for President.. The man is Arab and white.. He is only about 6.5% black from his great grandfathers side.. I have spent a tour over in Iraq with the 2nd Marine Division and now America wants to slap me in the face by nominating an Arab whose middle name is Hussein.. WTF!!!!! If he is elected the US will take a turn for the worse that has not been seen since the great depression.. As well I am one of those god fearing,gun toating folks that he dislikes so much... I have noticed that a few have talked about how bad the economy is right now but for those who know economics and follow the stock market we actually had a 20% growth this quarter.. And the unemployment rate is half of what is was during the Clinton years.. you cannot expect the ones that make a good living to give up some of their hard earned cash to some one who does nothing but sit in Social Services all day waiting for a handout that my taxes pay for.. Folks need to get up off thier lazy ass and make something with their life and not expect a handout every month off my dime...

    http://www.obamatruth.org/
     
  19. WWII

    WWII Banned

    Ah, Clinton. The hyperbole. Yes, things seemed good. But why? Clinton is by far overrated. More terrorists attacks happened with him in office than Bush. I think that's the 1st time the WTC were bombed, and many more overseas where the USA was stationed. He pretty much ignored foreign policy which is why it seems like we had no problems with him. Except for the "peace keeping" missions where he bombed Somalia and Kosovo.:confused: The economy was doing well, thanks in part to Reagan who set it up almost a decade earlier. Reagan's tax cuts and economic policy made investors in the private sector take risks and invest. Next thing you know, Billy is in office, banking off of the "dot come boom". He had no direct dealing with the economy except being in the right place at the right time. And a list of scandals so long it makes Bush look like an angel. We're better off without a Clinton in the White House.

    I'll agree with the religious statement God doesn't vote for unnecessary programs and projects and we need him back in the home. But the founding fathers have said that a government without religion is bound to collapse and fail.

    Ron Paul is the man. The problem with him is that he's too perfect to lead this nation. :(
     
  20. These are the type people that Obama wants to give free health care too.. I know this post is not about illegals but again these are the type folks that Obama says needs our help in order to be "good" Americans...

    [FONT=Verdana, Helvetica, Arial] From the L. A. Times
    1. 40% of all workers in L. A. County ( L. A. County has 10.2 million people) are working for cash and not paying taxes. This is because they are predominantly illegal immigrants working without a green card.
    2. 95% of warrants for murder in Los Angeles are for illegal aliens.
    3. 75% of people on the most wanted list in Los Angeles are illegal aliens.
    4. Over 2/3 of all births in Los Angeles County are to illegal alien Mexicans on Medi-Cal , whose births were paid for by taxpayers.
    5. Nearly 35% of all inmates in California detention centers are Mexican nationals here illegally
    6. Over 300,000 illegal aliens in Los Angeles County are living in garages.
    7. The FBI reports half of all gang members in Los Angeles are most likely illegal aliens from south of the border.
    8. Nearly 60% of all occupants of HUD properties are illegal.
    9. 21 radio stations in L. A. are Spanish speaking.
    10. In L. A. County 5.1 million people speak English, 3.9 million speak Spanish.
    (There are 10.2 million people in L. A. County.. )

    (All 10 of the above are from the Los Angeles Times)

    Less than 2% of illegal aliens are picking our crops, but 29% are on welfare. Over 70% of the United States' annual population growth (and over 90% of California, Florida , and New York) results from illegal immigration. 29% of inmates in federal prisons are illegal aliens.

    We are a bunch of fools for letting this continue

    HOW CAN YOU HELP ?

    Send copies of this letter to at least two other people. 100 would be even better.


    Folks we better wake up or as they say history shall repeat itself.. Can anyone say the Roman Empire..
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