Old irish staff

can use tell me wit breed thes are pls l have been told she Old irish staff but not sure dose not look like staff and wee bit taller v st jaws

 

we don't mean malnourished !
its the same for you. if you got fat on your ribs they won't show. but if they do are you obviously malnourished? i don't think so, but youl'' be in a better health.
and for the behaviour thing i won't even argue.

 

this is tru irish staff game bred

 

game breed http://www.game-dog.com/forums/albums/thumbs//5/631dbfc1c956f5d7a677de6689aad2e6_5422.jpg?dl=1270117800 staff pup

 

You are Ok mate but take on all of the advise she would look ten times better:cool:

 

AMEN damn near obese.

 

As said, there is a vast difference between a conditioned dog to a skinny under fed dog.....and what you will find with a properly exercised conditioned dog is, their temperaments are normally better because they have let off steam that a fat dog doest get to release. IMHO

 

Well, to be honist .. Spike has not been tested in the pit.. or rolled to any extent. so you are right there .! But he is a good perfomance dog . & Iput up his picture as an example of his Irish line in todays lite .. he is a Physco & K.K. "Kaos Kennells" bred dog .. he is in no way compareable to the old fighting dogs ..! although he shows the traits..! i have many pictures of the old Irish fighting dogs ..! but do you have any pictures of the dogs today ? .............jj

 

good point Sonia.. we were at the U.k. iron dog competion last year . & the dog that came 4th who was litter sis to the winner . was an example of this ...! ripped to the bone & you could see every vertebree on her back & looked like a skelleton... I felt very sorry for her ..!

 

skinny and weak yet managed to place 4th in an event called iron dog? Ethier she was strippd or the other dogs was shite....or only 4 dogs enterd

 

Cheers John.

John I know exactly what you mean, not a lot of people get the whole balance of conditioning a dog right. I know the dogs you mean John and it looks to me they strip the dog down by reducing its food and then work the dog, I personally increase my dogs food and weight by a few pounds and then bring it down with exercise.
Gog, the dogs are striped and to be honest you can tell a lot of the dogs at these shows have been starved for a day or couple days before the actual show and their food most definitely has been reduced for longer periods. The best conditioned dogs that I have seen have come out of Riskys Kennels and Mattys dogs... at these shows, they are healthier not only for the show but in the long run and far superior IMO.

But realistically most of the show fraternity starve their dogs to win points for conformation, regardless if the dog is in the ring getting stomach cramps or looking un-interested and miserable. I dont think they understand a malnourished dog will not perform to the standard of one that has been allowed to eat and get some kind of energy into its system. The only reason I think that dog came 4th was because they push their dogs to that extent all the time........hence their dogs arent consistent with their results and sometimes just look like they need a feckin holiday.

 

Forgive me for being thick "What does a dog have to do to be an Iron dog"

 

when ive been to a show it was full of posers in the car park...many owners there wank over dogs behind theirs and give it the big i am....these arent all just silly hoodie kids ethier alot are people youd think know better....then you have people who say i do this and that like the bloke here who walks his dog miles daily...yet the dogs are fat as fuck lol...think ill get as drunk as i did that time peppa and then have a few laughs at one of the shows later this year :p

 

lmao......the usual then.....

 

just not on a park bench with my juice :p

 

just sit there like 2 nutjob pissheads n shout abuse at them......lol....sounds a fucking great day....lmao...

 

The usual, a race over 100 meters or something, A Frame, Weight Pull, quickest bike ride over 1km, high jump and obstacle course.

 

Youre right a lot of people at these shows profess to have the best dogs in the world when clearly they dont........I have probably in my time of going to shows only seen a handful of dogs that i'd say were worth placing at all.
The whole show fraternity is a joke IMO, most of these people are nobodies just there to finally get a glimmer of glory they couldnt achieve in their own life themselves.
I do go to shows because I like to see whats out there and occasionally you do come across a fantastic dog, but the people well Id rather not even speak to a lot of them.

 

Well in the u.k. dog fighting is banned..! its good to have the history .. in the blood .. we do the next best thing ..!! which is compete with them .. but you guys are obviously fighting your dogs.. & i respect that & your opinions.. but if you aint ?? & you are makin these statments then you are all ...Wankers..!!

 

wow jjbulls i cant even explain what a stupid comment that is?

No one has any interest in that other than from a history point of view. Most probally dislike the shows because its full of wankers who think they have good staffords because it jumps abit of wood....they also tend to sit all day and talk about the dogs who actually done something other than exercise and use this to sell pups. Nothing wrong with your shows.. i just dont feel it deems a dog breed worthy and even more so when so many poor staffords are in shelters...im sure some of those would be more than able to exercise at a show.