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Old irish staff

Discussion in 'Staffordshire Bull Terriers' started by ohpitbulls, Mar 15, 2010.

  1. geezuss

    geezuss Big Dog

    would that mean that he has the blue pauls and red smutts in his blood?i dont understand about the irish staffs?thanks

     
  2. venom

    venom Top Dog

    nice looking dogs, but if they were bred for performance then most likely there will be dogs that do not fit the bill as far as standard goes and looks! A dog that would never be bred based on his looks not meeting show or breed standards could be bred hundreds of times based on his performance. So to say a dog is not something based on the way he looks, i don't particularly agree with that if it is a performance dog...
     
  3. culabula

    culabula Big Dog

    thanks Jack i was thinking along the same lines or wondering did it come from a chocolate fell or apbt.Ive read one or 2 of his books-id say he was given to exaggeration all right.Everything he wrote about breeding/genetics was lifted straight from J.H.walsh(stonehenge) and a dutch guy called Haagedoorn.you can download the E-book: Animal breeding by haagedoorn if you google his name.Its the best i ever read on the subject,not overly scientific and full of practical info.
    Getting back to the staffs,even k.c show bred lines throw the occasional little psycho.staffs have become very common here in ireland in the last few years but its more difficult to find a good one.Maybe the showring champions of yesteryear were well proven in teastas mor trials on badgers
    and the benefit of this game selection is nearly fizzled out now.i know a fellow had good show staffs and most of them were good workers.this was a good few years back.
    I went to a dog show last year(hadnt been at one since i was a kid) and was surprised at how bulldog like,top level show staffs had become
     
  4. Hello everyone . Dont mean to jump in on disscussion but only new to site and dont know where to post pics of me dogs . This is Teigans Mika . She is from Pounders Stella and Garys Lagen , She is 2 and quater years old . Very Atheletic and obidient , great around my daughter and other kids , maybe abit to friendly with her tounge . She is great with my other staff (max) as he is 15 now . He didnt like her at first but just puts up with her now lol .
    We use Teigans Mika as her paper name but we as a family call her Shiva (dont laugh ) was the wifes idea from the movie polar express .
    Anyway back to this dog of mine .
    She is a real fine example of the old time staffords .In her pedigree we have Fair & Squares champion Milo , East streets Mac , East Streets Beanie 2 , Flanders FieldBoys 3 , Farmer Boys Blue , Farmer Boys Blue Bell , Kaos Kennels Blue , KK Scrag , Scratch Kennels Haggler , Flanders Field Boys Beanie ,East Streets China , This line goes way back to East Streets Jocko , Ricky B`s Champion Psycho , Farmer Boys Jonah the list goes on and on but heres a couple of pics of her and any comments , good or bad will be answered .
     
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  5. Can you tell if this dog of jjbulls is proven (and I dont mean jumping over and over a piece of wood) or is it bred just to produce "pretty blue dogs"
    If it is the 2nd answer can you tell me why its has been mated to a bitch as it will only produce infearior staffords and there is more than enough of those about. People like you are the downfall of this great breed
     
  6. Hairy Kelly

    Hairy Kelly Banned

    you have got some good blood behind her mate.in my eyes east streets bred some crackers
     
  7. sorry thought i put a couple of pics up of her .. Anyway here they are .
    These were taken over the fields on our daily 8-9 mile walk .
     

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  8. can only seam to load up 5 pics at a time so heres a couple more .
     

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  9. thanks for the comments hairy .
    I thank the breader for this dog . She`s a cracking example .
     
  10. general

    general Big Dog

    by the looks of the bitch mate i would say the bitch never covered 8-9 miles in her life time, never mind daily, for a 2 1/2 year old bitch it could do with a diet and a walk.
     
  11. well general . you the first to comment like that so ill just ignore it . But thanks anyway , suppose your dogs are lean and ribs showing are they ??
     
  12. gog123

    gog123 Top Dog

    I agree mate, that dog is being feed to much if your honestly walking that many miles every day.
     
  13. XXLbully

    XXLbully Big Dog

    i was thinking the same,she could easily lose a few pounds.
     
  14. general

    general Big Dog

    over the years my champion dogs have appered in mags/ books all over the world !!!! yes they all are lean and had rib showing .i can see in dogs things that others dont see , be honest to others and others will be honest with you, i never meant to offend you in my post.
     
  15. no offence taken my friend , just that you use your dogs for different pourpeses (no good at spelling ) sorry .
    Ive always belived that if the dogs ribs are showing and is bang on the game weight then i belive that , that dog is going to be a little more aggresive than a dog that is fed just meat and mixer .
    Everyone has their opinion of a nice dog , im sure as hell your dogs are exellent for what you use them for , anyway going for a doobie as starting to bite my nails lol
    I dont walk 8-9 EVERY day but we do about atleast 6-8 , we been out thisnorning and done 6 miles and im going to make a couple of smokes and go out again and do 2 and half miles , i do know how much we walk as route is posted
     
  16. bip

    bip Pup

    I agree with the others. she can lose a few kg...
     
  17. no way .. a thin dog is a hungry dog . = aggression . JMHO
     
  18. nasher

    nasher Big Dog

    there is a difference between a conditioned dog and a thin dog for starters muscle mass and time and dedication do yourself a favour stop feeding the meat(I presume tinned) as it is full of shit and mixer try a decent kibble or even better feed raw and a little bit of friendly advice cut down on the feed a little;)
     
  19. oldtymer

    oldtymer Top Dog

    You are way wrong there, a lean well exercised dog does not equal a thin dog nor does it equal an aggresive dog ,what it does equal is a well looked after animal !!!! Plus a dog that is a little under weight is far better than a dog thats over weight.
     
  20. Cheers for the advice nasher . Might try the kibble . Thanks again
     

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