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Not The Same: Liars and Cheats

Discussion in 'Dog Discussion' started by Popeye88, Oct 31, 2014.

  1. Popeye88

    Popeye88 Pup

    I want to start a rather personal topic. Hopefully some of the old timers and new guys can share some experiences and stories. And maybe even help deal with certain situations. I know plenty have been lied to and cheated. Had folk talk bad about you. Telling stories that aren't true, and you believe them lol. And when you confirm from credible sources, they tell more stories or try to hide from the truth. You see, I need to pump my brakes, and take it slow. Moving too fast, and taking in more than I can handle. Being hardheaded has its consequences. I hope that some of the younger dudes getting started in the dogs learn from our mistakes, for real. I'm not gonna tell you not to get these dogs because I already know what it is. I have been there. Everyone stay safe and keep'em scratchin


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  2. slim12

    slim12 Super Moderator Staff Member

    It has always been a part of the game. Dogmen/women are nothing more than a cross section of society. If society has liars and cheats then so will the dogs. If society has molesters, murderers, thieves and rapists, in turn, the dogs will have the same.


    Every click is made up of society so in turn every click will have its issues. Within all those clicks there are straight up, honest good people.


    What sucks is that the good people are sometimes harder to find than the other types. Although is a perfect world they would be an easy find, but in our world it takes a little more effort to locate them. S
     
  3. Popeye88

    Popeye88 Pup

    That's very true slim.


    Front Lynaz
     
  4. treezpitz

    treezpitz CH Dog Staff Member

    So true, great post.
     
  5. MCM_VIII

    MCM_VIII Pup

    Agreed everything in life has it's positives and negatives. For every good person there is one or more bad, Nothing drives it home more than even in the churches we see bad things crop up and that is supposed to be the pillars of the community in which they reside. Not bashing church and not turning this into a church/religion thread just thought it was a perfect example.

    What was told to me and I do really try to stick to it even though it is difficult is, It is not these things that you've just brought up that define who you are but how you come out on the other side when it's all over. Anyone can say anything about you but if it is discredited by your actions and reputation then in the end they'll hang theirself with their own rope.
     
  6. mccoypitbulls

    mccoypitbulls Underdog

    There has been corruption in the church and killing in the name of God since the begining.
     
  7. slim12

    slim12 Super Moderator Staff Member

    Our churches, regardless of denomination, regardless of faith, is a cross section of our society. There will be good and there will be bad.


    When it comes from a church it has some shock value as it is often 'from the person you did not expect'. On the outside the person s a pillar of the community but sometimes they have secrets. Those secrets when told, because of the outwardly appearance, have shock value.


    The church is a great example. The shock value is also lessened when 'stereotyping' is in play. If a redneck white guy is standing in the door way, with a cigarette in one hand, a beer in the other and wearing a wife beater t-shirt. If his wife has bruises there is not a lot of shock value as his with his stereotype it is 'expected'.


    Young black man, pants sagging, lots of bling, hanging on the corner is the stereotypical drug dealer. When he gets arrested it is not that big of a surprise to anyone.


    Now if that guy in the wife beater is sleeping and whooping the preacher's wife, that has shock value. If that kid saggin' on the corner sells some weed to the reverend himself, that has shock value.


    And to bring it full circle. These dogs have been based on a criminal act since just about the beginning. It is no surprise for me when people committing a crime anyway, have other negative aspects as well. Anything that can be bought and sold will draw in people who are willing to lie, cheat and steal to make that sale.


    It is like 'honor amongst thieves' has some real meaning. The dogs are based on an illegality so when a guy shoots you a curve, it has to be expected. The dogs are a buyer's beware market, as well as a money making machine. The first should help with the second. S
     
  8. treezpitz

    treezpitz CH Dog Staff Member

    Another great post, slim. ^^
     
  9. slim12

    slim12 Super Moderator Staff Member

    On the Steve Harvey show, Steve claims everybody has a cousin who is a crack head or on meth. I admit I do. He was recently arrested for fighting/assault/simple affray. he and his crack head pal broke into a man's shop, stole a lot of his power tools, and hid them to be sold the next morning. His crack head friend got to the tools first (early bird gets the worm) and sold them and smoked it up before the partner was available.


    My cousin felt wronged. He said it just was not right. They were partners. Go figure. S
     
  10. MCM_VIII

    MCM_VIII Pup

    Yep that's what I was getting at, Regardless of where you go from church all the way down to the dogs you have good folks and bad folks. In every single aspect of every corner of the world you have the good and the bad.
     
  11. Popeye88

    Popeye88 Pup

    Has anyone bought a pup without papers? The person tells you the pup is off of a great stud dog, but he only wants a couple hundred. And he tells you to keep it on the low. You know it seems fishy, so you do a little homework. The pup turns out to be something different. But it's still game bred. Would you keep the pup, or get your money back?
     
  12. slim12

    slim12 Super Moderator Staff Member

    More than likely get my money back, if you can. Not so much by what the puppy is or was suppose to be, or even might be, but because of the lie. Cut ties and move on. S
     

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