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I don't think there is a better breed to have around kids then a pitbull.

 

no the best breed is the lab to me
a very loving dog

 

williepete you are right about what you just posted. but the fact is we need the responsible "pet" owners in the public eye. the true bulldog is good with kids & does make a good "pet". all of them no but most of them do. responsibility comes with ALL "pet" not just these dogs. the truth is it's the person behind the dog that is the biggest factor. the dogs ain't to blame it's the people. WE need the responsible "pet" owners & all the positive attention WE can get. to prove it ain't the dogs it's the folks behind the dogs.

 

I agree these dogs are not for everyone, but there are many working breeds that the same type of unresponsible people should not own either. Any of the imported working breeds are a hundred times more dangerous than the APBT to humans.

 

agreed wardog, ive seen these dogs with kids for years and its been proven again and again that a good dog with a level head is as good as it gets. so that "bite a kid" shit on this thread is nonsense.

 

so youre aware of the fact that the APBT passes the temp. test higher than the lab and the golden? whos side are you on Frank?

 

it should be of no surprise its happened to most working breeds that were used as the tuff dog

the rotts
the dobies
the chows
akitas
sharpie(sp)

and the list goes on its because when someone tht knows how to handle these dogs and makes it look easy
someone else may think look at that do hows he with kids,strangers, yadayadayada

but they dont see the hard work it takes to maintain a healthy happy working dog
so they get one and think you can just feed the dog and then the dog grows to be a problem dog

same has happened to the pitbull alot of work has been put in to gain a stable temperment and this was accomplished through selective breeding

but with the popularity of this breed there has been a lot of breedings done with
dogs that should have never made it to a chain spot and it reflects on the breed as a whole

 

those test can be altered
and they only test certine dogs

but on the cool a kid shouldnt be left alone with any animal

and Im for the APBT

but what the APBT needs is to be left out of the lime light
and irresponsible owners are focusing the light directly on this breed

 

Frank ya got a lot info on ya

 

As someone who was entrenched in rescue for years, did tons of educating the ''general public'', gave a REAL education on the breed, not some sugar coated crap... I came to one conclusion, after years of thinking that ''education is the key''. People are bloody stupid and I myself will never place another dog with anyone again. You can talk until you are blue in the face and people will nod and agree and then walk out the door and fuck up with their dog two days later. Education is only education if it's sinkin' in, and it's not. Close your cirlces. Stop selling dogs. Cull. I'm not givin' up on the breed. I'm just changing my fighting style so to speak.

 

sounds like a plan to me shit keep only what you need and can care for
if they work out its a keeper if not its a cull

 

Yup. I truely think that's our only hope.

 

1.) I think anyone who puts time in and educates themselves should be fine with an apbt. Ignorance is a gamedogs worst enemy

2.) I think they are all-around dogs, by far the most versatile breed i know of

3.) I agree, even if they arent agressive with kids mine are way to hyper. They kncok them over. Obviously each indidvidual dog differs but overall i think that pit puppies in particular arent for kids

4.) i agree, no point in setting them up for failure. Still the majority of apbts i know are ppl friendly but it doesnt help them by use telling ppl they all are

5.)its time to be honest and truthfull about these dogs and what they are
working dogs--- well said

6.)working dog they have a purpose and it not to lay on the couch all day because an idle mind is the devils work shop--- exactly!

7.) i dont leave let them run free in the backyard unless im watchin. if they get bored they will jump the fench and go find entertainment... and a lawsuit

 

I agree with you, if you don't have any use for the dog no one else will either.

There are exceptions to every rule, but if people would close the circle everyone in the neighborhood wouldn't have a bull dog.

For every person that changes there mind seeing a good dog, 1000s of people change there mind when they see 1 report on the news.

 

Well, all dogs are like that.. I don't see how other breeds of dogs would be better with children then an APBT.

APBT's have a higher pain tolerance than most breeds, and they are practically all muscle. So if a kid accidentally steps on the dog or something, the dog wont freak out like other breeds probably will since they will feel the pain and dont deal with it well.

What would make a Lab or golden retriever, better with children compared to an APBT?

If you take a child and have it pulling the labs ears all day 24/7. Im sure the lab will snap ....

I just dont see how other breeds will be better for children then an APBT?

The energy, personality, and pain tolerance/them being practically all muscle is a perfect match with children.

Here is my APBT and children. He doesnt even live with these kids on a daily basis. IMO, the children will get more fun out of an APBT than a calm boring dog with no personality. Look at them having a blast..


YouTube - American Pit Bull Terrier And Children Playing


^ Video of my APBT with the kids.


I will not leave them alone together because I am afraid that my dog will get hurt from the kids!! NOT my dog biting one of them.

 

Some of the people on here are not getting the meaning of this post.. I get what he's saying and I agree 100%. There are alot of people out there who own APBTs but do not have any idea of how to properly raise and train a dog..

APBTs are not for timid or weak minded people.
They are not a persons "first dog".
They are not meant to grow up with the children.
They are not meant to protect you backyard (because the actually want to get out of the yard)
They are not meant for the elderly or someone who can not control the dog on or off the leash.
They are not meant for the single mother who does not have time to take the dog out for "hard exercise" every day.

-there are alot more "nots" but you get the picture.

The reason why we have so much problem with BSL is because of some of the same "nots" I just mentioned.

I own 4 apbts. A male adult and a female adult and two of their male pups. Now my dogs are very socialized but I will never, ever put past my dogs what I know they are capable of.

I do not let kids pet my dogs with out their parents present.
I do not allow people to get eye level with my dogs, thats a tonge bath waiting to happen.
I do not allow people to "baby talk" with my dogs. It only gets them excited and they start figuring that person is an equal.
I do not allow them to run with out their leash unless I'm in a controled area or in the desert.

example-I have had to deal with injuries to my adult male (Jack) because I had him leashed and a crippled woman had a APBT unleashed that attacked my dog. I had Jack afixitated by his choke chain while her dog was wrecking the back of his neck. She was unable to control her dog and get him off of mine so I had to let my boy go so that he could defend his self, but I looked like a bad person for allowing Jack to do that. (My boy Jack is 65 lbs of pure muscle, he will make a weight lifter jealous. He is loving and friendly but he hates to be dominated by any dog other than my female apbt- his wife. He is strong enough to uproot a tree and he can take out a 110 lb Rottie). I had to spend two weeks cleaning and tending to the wounds he got from that lady's dog on the back of his neck. This was unneccesary.

I got other situations but you get my point.

I also come across alot of first time pitbull owners who have dogs that they allowed dominant behaviors happen while they were pups and they want my suggestion.. Hey, I'm not the dog whisperer, they should have never got a apbt if they never raised a dog before.

 

Yeah i will agree with you .... it bothers me more to see kids getting hurt because of stupid people that wont listen ,,,, not all these dogs are good with kids or make great pets some have no bisness in pet homes ,, but yes resposibile pet owners are great but finding them is not as easy as most think

 

i will agree with that. I dont think the average joe should be aloud to have them. Part of me doesnt what hardly anyone to have them bc they are becoming the demise of the breed. Its not that more people couldnt be good apbt owners as much as they dont take the time to find out how. For this, i think closing the circles maybe the best options. The people i know dont even let most ppl know they have them. But the BBYs are the ones passing them out to everyone, and regardless if they are curs, or mutts they still ruin our dogs reputation

 

get the fuck out of town you are the type of person this thread is about an accident waiting to happen

the dog is just holding back the urge to bite prey that is running an screaming
and letting him jump up in a kids face is a nono

just understand that you are training him to to jump at a persons face
and in the unfortunate event that he believes the kids are his equal and not above him in the pack he will go to the face first

i never let my dogs jump on my kid to lick her in the face

all Im saying is dont let the last words you have about this dog be
WELL HE NEVER DID THAT BEFORE

 

I fully disagree too, When dealing with dogs that are inbred (sometimes very inbred) you can, and I have seen it first hand, get a dog or 2 that comes out totally friggin retarded mentally. A bad breeding can create bad traits in the offspring, there are most definitly dogs that are bad temperd regardless of how they are brought up chow-chows are a very good example of this (not all, but statistically alot of them are not very well temperd dogs). As for the a dog will only do what an owner allows it to, I don't alow dogs pissing or shitting in my house yet they still do it from time to time.