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Ya....thats What The Post Was About....hog Hunting....riggghhhttt.

 

Whats The Difference Between Not Being Opposed To It And Thinking Its Ok?

 

I would really like to see some specific posts that you have "judged" to be an indication of "dog fighting" or "illegal activities"

Please share with us posts you have used to come to these conclusions, so maybe we can better understand your point of view, and basis for your judgements.

 

BAM! THERE YA GO:

http://www.game-dog.com/forums/showthread.php?t=11934

 

Maybe it means that I would be indifferent to it....

 

Right. In Difference Definitely Is Not Saying Its Wrong. Its Saying You Dont Care. ...so You Dont Care About Dogfighting Until Someone Starts Implying Someone Else Is Doing It? If You Are Indifferent About Dogfighting Then Why Did You Feel Compelled To Comment And Read Through This Thread I Am Concerned About? Whatever. I Dont Even Really Care About What Your Reasoning Is...its A Bigger Issue Than Why You Were Looking Through The Thread So I Wont Even Go There...if You Are Indifferent You're Saying "its Fine With Me."

 

Crazy here does make a valid point. Folks see what they want to see, even if it's complete and utter bullshit

 

Gives me shits and giggles.

 

I must be missing something. What specifically in that thread leads you believe anyone is breaking the law or matching dogs in a jursidiction where it illegal.

Is that all you got? One thread that specifically states

"This thread is intended to deal only with activities outside the US of A. and is for entertainment purposes only."

You make judgements, that could hurt peoples lives and family based on that?

Thats not a very high standard by which to label someone a "dog fighter" if you ask me.

 

well thank you.

 

No you are. I have said I believe DF is wrong. I've seen it and don't like it.
Yet you still clump me in with ppl you think are doing it and that's judging me and I think you did it first. I will state again that I don't believe anyone on this board is fighting dogs. Just because it is talked about doesn't make you guilty of it. That's the point we were trying to make in this thread in the beginning, remember, don't accuse unless you have fact. You can say a teacher is screwwing her students and when the law comes down on them, they are ruined, even if not guilty. No more job, family is scorned. I have agreed with you about the DF, just not that this forum condones it.

 

I think Id have to say the only thing worse than people who love and advocate dogfighting is people who try to deny its going on because they hate to think of themselves as judgeing one of their own (pit bull owner) you better wake up and smell the blood. For people who are not guilty of doing anything wrong, they sure seem to be talking about the wrong things in this thread Im talking about. You can say what you want, justify it as you see fit I mean I know what it looks like to me. It looks like men sitting around discussing what dogfighters over sees are doing with their dogs and what the possible outcome of changing their fighting dogs would be in a match. Looks like assholes trying to compare boxing and UFC to dogs killing one another and it looks like people who think they can get around the law and scrutiny by stating a disclaimer that says bla bla bla. What it DOESNT look like to me is a thread started by someone who takes the animal rights act of 1976 very seriously, doesnt believe in it and is only using it to cover his ass. It DOESNT look like a
"make believe" conversation of "perpetrators" just "fooling around" and it DOESNT look like people who are very concerned about the wellfare of themselves, their families or their dogs...otherwise posting something like this would be out of the question.

 

I appreciate your concerns and most everyone on the site shares your love for the breed, but most have expressed concern that you are overzellost(sp) in labeling people "dogfighters" and thats what most of the concern is over.

As far as the other stuff, any specific examples of what you are referancing when you says "its Plain to see", or that "its obvious whats going on"

Any specific examples of how "dogfighters are networking" on this site, and using site to "improve" fighting abilities of dogs, as you state.

 

chinasmom,

Ok first of all i havent accused you of dogfighting. Im accusing you of being naive. What makes you naive enough to think no one on this site fights their dogs? And what ISNT suspect about that thread?

 

Marty,
so you are saying I should not be alarmed or concerned about threads discussing bettering the ability of a fighting dog? Im still not clear on how you feel about this post Im concerned about.

Rationalize this for me:

http://www.game-dog.com/forums/showthread.php?t=11934

 

Do you not agree with the purpose Of this site...

Pit Bull Community is dedicated to the preservation of the pit bull in its original form as a game-bred dog and in its modern incarnations as a loving companion pet and top competitor in weight pull competitions and conformation shows. We are opposed to all forms of animal cruelty, and do not promote any illegal activities, but we celebrate the history of the pit bull and value its qualities of courage, strength and tenacity as the essence of the breed. We are therefore against all forms of breed-specific legislation, and work to protect the constitutional rights of pit bull owners.

Pit Bull Community's primary goal is to provide education to the public about the nature of the American Pit Bull Terrier (APBT) and related breeds such as the American Staffordshire Terrier and the Staffordshire Bull Terrier, all of which are often referred to as "pit bulls." These breeds have become the media's current choice of "dangerous dog," following the German Shepherd, the Doberman Pinscher, and the Rottweiler. In light of today's barrage of newspaper reports of pit bull attacks, it is hard to imagine that today's "bad dog" was once favored in the United States.

The shift in the mass media's portrayal of the pit bull, from the loyal family pet of Our Gang's Petey to a fearsome beast, as well as the rise in breed-specific legislation banning pit bulls, is the result of widespread misinformation and prejudice. The imputation of actions and characteristics of individual dogs to an entire breed, which forms the basis of breed-specific legislation (BSL), is analogous to human racism or classism.

Moreover, with a wide range of sizes and colors, and an ever-increasing mixed-breed population, the pit bull presents a challenge for those who would define it. These days, it seems that everyone knows what a "pit bull" is and that "they" are dangerous. This ambiguous status has led to vague definitions of the pit bull in breed-banning ordinances, and the label "pit bull" has been applied generically to any dog that appears dangerous. In fact, over eighty percent of Americans, when faced with pictures of the American Pit Bull Terrier and related breeds, fail to correctly identify the APBT.

The American Pit Bull Terrier is descended from the fighting dogs that came to the United States from England and Ireland in the late 19th and early 20th century. Although some dispute its heritage, the APBT is generally thought to have been the result of a cross between the original English Bulldog and a smaller, game terrier, a cross which was then refined on American soil. The United Kennel Club (UKC) was formed in 1898 to recognize the APBT, and other pit bull registries have been founded since, which reward conformation based on performance rather than on size, color or other physical characteristics.

Despite the media's portrayal of fighting dogs, it is precisely the APBT's history as a fighting dog that has made it such a fine companion animal. Bred to be handled extensively by humans who regularly separated fighting dogs in the pit, APBTs became uniquely human-friendly; an APBT who would injure a human, without human error or provocation, was removed from breeding stock. The true, game-bred APBT is thus uniquely responsive to humans and will go to amazing lengths to please its owner.

The gameness of APBTs also allows them to excel as working dogs, in sports such as hog hunting and weight pulling. Because they are so friendly to humans, APBTs are not suitable for guard dogs. Even though the myth, that pit bulls have locking jaws has been completely debunked, they are powerful natural athletes, and encouraging them to be aggressive toward humans is tantamount to criminal action.

Although APBTs typically do not bite people, any dog of any breed will bite a person under certain circumstances. Like any dog, an APBT should always be supervised around young children. Many people, when talking about a pit bull, will call a dog that bites an individual a "man-biter." A man-biter will go after man like another animal with all intent to take it out. At least 99.99% of APBTs will not attack a human, but many display protective instincts and will defend their family and/or property. Humans are most always the ones to blame when a dog bites someone - they have failed in some way, but refuse to take blame for their inability to properly raise, house, and train their pets correctly. It is always easier to blame the dog, its breed, or its genetic makeup, than to take responsibility, train them correctly from day one, and should a problem arise, seek professional help. It is the irresponsible owners who have allowed accidents to happen which could have been prevented, and are now threatening to destroy the pit bull breeds.

Even though the APBT is the most reliably human-friendly of breeds, they often become dog-aggressive when mature (beginning anywhere from six months to two years of age and continuing for the rest of their adult lives). APBTs do not need to be trained to fight other dogs - it is in their nature. Contrary to popular opinion, dog-aggression cannot be "loved out" or "trained out" of APBTs, but it is typically apparent and controllable through supervision and separation of dogs. In fact, dog-aggression is also common in other bully and terrier breeds, and has nothing whatsoever to do with aggression toward humans.

For these reasons, persons who aspire to own an APBT take on a great responsibility. These dogs must be supervised around other dogs, cats, or pets and many should be the only house pet. Even though chains are out of favor among animal welfare advocates today, often with good reason, a well-maintained chain set-up is often the best outdoor containment system for an APBT, and allows them a great deal more exercise and safe interaction than a dog run or kennel. Although parting sticks and exercise equipment are characterized by law enforcement as evidence of dog fighting, they can also be hallmarks of responsible ownership and well cared-for APBTs. We believe that all of these responsibilities are a small price to pay for such a wonderful companion.

We do not condone the indiscriminate breeding of pit bulls, and do not allow posts relating to dogs for sale or stud, when there are countless homeless and unwanted pit bulls being put to death daily in America's shelters. While we support rescue efforts, we are not animal rights extremists. We denounce the mass extermination of pit bulls seized when dogfighters are arrested. Most of these dogs and puppies are similar in temperament to other APBTs and can be successfully placed in homes as pets or with working families. In addition, limited breeding programs, undertaken by knowledgeable and responsible breeders, are necessary to preserve the APBT for future generations.

Pit Bull Community rejects BSL as an unconstitutional infringement on the rights of Americans, based in a vicious prejudice that seeks to destroy an honorable tradition. Many people do not realize it, but there exists an entire culture and way of life in the United States built around caring for and raising APBTs. This breed is an important historical and cultural legacy, and the staff of Pit Bull Community believe that public safety is best served by preserving the APBT in its original form: as a game-bred dog.

We at the Pit Bull Community hope to increase public understanding and dispel the myths surrounding the APBT and the related breeds known as "pit bulls." Please, do your part to educate yourself and others, and save America's dog as well as life as we know it for the owners and lovers of this heroic breed!

 

Marty, Im sure you can make sense of this for me because I know you have seen the thread and you have commented on it as well so Id like to know how you feel about it.

 

I know about this. Ive seen this before but it doesnt answer the questions Im asking you about this thread. If you dont condone dogfighting then why is the thread still up and active?

 

You have to be the Dumbest fucking Cunt, I have ever seen in my entire life. You just don't GET IT do you. Nobody on here gives two fucks and a shit what "concerns" or "alarms" you. What people are against is you labeling people "dog fighters" with such a total disregard for thier lives and families lives.

The fucking post concerns and alarms you so you need to save the dogs by posting all the mean dog fighters on the net. Give me a fucking break.

Look under Stupid Cunt in Websters and you will see these pictures.

 

There are threads posted for history purpose only... I have no idea what your agenda is but your barking up the wrong tree... I have allowed you here to try to talk some sense in you but you seem not to listen :rolleyes:

We do not cater to dog fighting as you assume... so what should I do close the site?