Muscles

Good post.. I learned something here i can put in practice.

 

This is a great post.

Speak more on this part:

Don Mayfield was light years ahead of conditioners in his time and if you are using an aerobic blunt tool such as a slat mill you will never maximize a dog's anaerobic capacity!

 

Here is my spin. The guy that turned me onto these dogs as young man was good friends with Mr. Mayfield. He travelled from to Mr. Mayfield's place on a couple three occasions. He stayed for 2-3 weeks and watched him work a number of dogs.

Mr. Mayfield was ahead of his time in bringing a dog in at his lightest weight possible and still have enough in the tank to get the job done. His feed pan and how he pulled water was ahead of most other dog men going back then. (Mid to late 70's). As a kid I remember how we worked dogs before the trips and then how things changed afterwards.

Talking with the him now he often tells me that he won a lot of matches after working dogs with Don. He would call off the names and I remember the dogs and where they were chained. He had a lot of Red Boy dog back then off Red Boy/sons and daughters of Red Boy. He credited Mr. Mayfield with the conditioning that kept the 'softer' mouth dogs going all night, yet made the dogs with a lot of finish all the more in that first barnstorm.

This was done via Mr. Mayfield with a slat mill, an e-mill and harness with a set of chains.

I'm always interested in information regarding Mr. Mayfield.

S

 

When you take the air out of workouts you will take your dog to another level!

I'm not sure I get this train of thought.

If we are hooking to a cart and pulling a heavy weight for a short distance I see the point. If we are hunting hogs where as it is a 3/4 to all out sprint for a few minutes tops and then an extreme out put of energy for a few minutes I can see the point.

The prolonged muscle pump is great for building muscle. It will make a dog strong. I personally like strong dogs but I prefer dogs with power, speed and strength. But what I like most of all is the 'stronger longer' approach. Creating muscle pump is good, maintaining it in bursts is good, but maintaining the pump to the point muscles grow is a bit much for me because I am not pulling a cart.

I'm more concerned with how many muscle pumps I can get in a given period much more so than how long I can maintain them. Ina get together there are flurries. The longer and sustained pumps will win the first series of flurries and if that is not enough to win then there will be fade. The pumps are great and I am all about the pump through explosive force but I am looking for that explosive force deep into the night. Deep into the night requires multiple pumps over a given period more so than prolonged pumps.

Prolonged pumps will make muscles. And muscles will grow. And maybe I missed the point of the topic as I am applying it to working a dog for an endeavor which has no time or no distance set to determine the finishing point.

In between the pumps there has to be air, and the ability to gather air while under load is paramount. For me, I'm in search of the same pump, but recovering as the pump fades in order to get back to the next pump as quickly as he can.

S

 

I agree with the exception of two things. The complex carbs can be dropped with the same effect.

An using sugars to mimic an insulin spike is awesome but not as powerful as testosterone.

When both are used correctly creatine and sugars will pale in comparison to testosterone.

The reason it compares favorably is the number of people who can correctly used testosterone are few and very far between. Couple a camp with access to bloodwork, a needle that is only equaled and not surpassed by a work plan and a feed pan, top that with a hard working dog and it is just about an unbeatable combination.

Very few can line all those things together. Just like it was said earlier 'big muscles blow dogs hot is a myth/misunderstanding'. It goes the same with steroids/testosterone, they get the rap for blowing dogs out but it is the furthest from the truth. The dogs blow hot because the work, the feed and the dog did not equal to the needle being used.

People seldom blame themselves when they can blame something else.

I do like your posts. And in a real conversation vs. typed messages I am guessing we would closer to being on the same page.

I enjoy these exchanges.

S

 

And of the four things you listed I would add water. Water is the thing that makes all them work.

There is no need for insulin spike if the dog is dehydrated as there will be no volume in cell volume. The mitochondria you spoke of in over in one corner asking for water to make the magic happen.

One of the myths about creatine is it creates water retention. In a way yes, but one can only retain water if it is there. The dog has to be on the wet side of dehydration in order for it all to work. The key with it all is to hit the wet mark every day in order to take advantage of the gains be it a needle or old school insulin spike. The art in turn is being adequately hydrated to the type of dog, the outside temperature, elevation, etc. etc. and then pulling from there without losing the benefits of the supplementation.

But I am a fan of pure creatine. There use to be a company in Germany that is no longer in business. The package had pure creatine with another canister of a dextrose/sucrose blend. Basically one pre-loaded for a week, then did the maintenance servings. The sugar amount was adjusted based on bodyweight and metabolism. It was a way more efficient way to utilize the creatine. There was mix cup that dictated body weight and sugar amount that equaled to the amount of water required to drink. I have the 180lb. man dosage broke down to per pound for dogs.

When the sugar and water is fitted to the base of creatine one can see the difference in the dog over a relatively short time period. It does do wonders.

S