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muscle building supplements

Discussion in 'Health & Nutrition' started by xKANEx, Dec 5, 2004.

  1. xKANEx

    xKANEx Pup

    im wondering what kind of muscle building supplements there are out there.. my puppy is by no means ready for them, im just shopping around for when he is.. i heard that http://www.k9power.com/peak.htm those supplements are good, especially the peak performance2.. i was going to get him one of D&B's weighted collars, and work him out with that while running, walking, and playing with the springpole, and then swimming, without the collar of course.. im also building my own treadmill for him.. i was just wondering if anyone knew of anyother supplements out there that will help "muscle up" a little bit.. but again, by no means am i going to do all of this to a 16 week old puppy, im just planning for the future, and shopping around.. ill post pics before/after ear cropping, and during, and present as soon as i get them developed.. as of now, we run every other day, walk on off running days, and play non stop all other times.. thanks
     
  2. XxKonnectionsxX

    XxKonnectionsxX Top Dog

    I'm not sure about how you feel about the natural aproach to things, but you can just feed your dog meat if you want him to muscle up. Think about it to make more muscle (which is meat), you should feed your dog red meat.
     
  3. As your dog's still that young, I wouldn't start worrying about that already. Essential at the moment is a quality kibble! Thats foundation for later.
    And wait with weighted collars until your dog's fully grown. You don't want a crippled but bulky dog, do you?!
    I prefer weighted harnesses as I think they spread the force of weight better. Though they put more strain on the spine. With my weighted harness you can choose how much weight you want the dog to carry around, there are 10 weights of 400g, so I was able to start of slow and with just a bit of weight and increase it little by little.
    But to build muscle swimming is the best and springpole. Swimming is also the least straining on the dog, it's exhausting but can't do the dog any harm.
    I personally don't like mills, as I think it's pretty unfair on the dog to have it running stupidly on it. Why not get yourself a bit of exercise and take your bike and let your dog run along.
    About the supplement I don't know... I dislike predigested stuff. Get quality food, and give the dog kibble in the morning and raw meat with some carbs in the evening. And at 16 weeks you can't judge yet if your dog will be a food burner or not. Just wait and see, your dog will probably develope without that.
     
  4. PADogman

    PADogman Top Dog

    nice info.I started my puppy off with 1/2 dry and 1/2 canned nutro in the morning.and in the late afternoon I feed him 1/3 dry 1/3 canned and 1/3 raw chicken.I'll post some pics of him when I get them he's only 3 months and looks real good so far.Thanks to all the info on this site.



     
  5. xKANEx

    xKANEx Pup

    yea, i definately understand what u mean by waiting, but that is what i said in my original statement, i am by no means worried about weighted collars or anything until he is older and his body can handle the weight. i do plan on swimming him this summer, but its too cold to do it now.. i run him every day, and walk him everyother, he plays with his spring pole for about 2 minutes at a time and loses interest. i cant really run him next to my bike, being the only bike i own is a street bike, cbr 600, and i dont think he can handle 70mph.. lol.. any ideas on how i can get him to pay more attention to his spring pole? i also have his brother, and when the both play with it, they end up just wrestling with eachother.. i would love to see your weighted harness, if you have pictures, or have them for sale.. and do you recommend raw meat at this young of an age? thanks
    p.s. im also feeding him nutro max puppy chow, because it had the best protein and fat content..
     
  6. ha ha ha :p
    anyway with bycicle you'd have to wait still. Anyway I guess you can go slower with a motorbike or what do you tell the cops.
    Wait and play, he'll turn out okay you'll see. Get a thick cotton rope for tug of war, but get one long enough and don't hold it close in fornt of your belly when teasing the dog wanting it to get it, I got a scar from that.
    Remember your dog is only a kid, that's why he might loose interest in stuff quickly.<O:p</O:p

    Being from Europe I got no a very good idea of American food brands, but most of them are global firms so you might find those brands:<O:p</O:p

    -there's a supplement from "Happy Dog" called Power Plus containing maltodextrine, eggs, poultry meat, liver... it's probably the maltodextrine that does the trick as bodybuilders also use it and people that want to gain weight
    -Royal Canin got a PowerBar <O:p</O:p
    -energy bar by Kronch (norwegian firm) called Kronch Pemmikan which contains mainly fat, so you could give your dog pure butter for the same result. Rather something for when you’ve exhausted yout dog and no matter how you’d stuff him and he never get enough calories<O:p</O:p

    Basic rules for training a dog are that the dog's fun doing it, never overdo it, for building muscle a certain amount of rest is a good thing especially at the beginning, workout on one day and the following give him a break and only take him for a stroll, play some ball or what so ever...
     
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  7. PADogman

    PADogman Top Dog

    I was told it's not a good idea to play tug of war with young APBT's.Cause when they get older they feel the need to be the more dominate one.And it leads toward aggression.I dont know if it's true or not but thats what I was told by a couple people that own APBT's.
     
  8. dznutts

    dznutts Big Dog

    I don't think theres anything wrong with tug a war.....
     
  9. I read that, too, also the idea is to not play tug o' war with pups of any breed...
    But by now I think that is nonsense, I think of it like ideas you get from reading parenting books. My sister when she was pregnant with her first kid read them and had a head full of ideas and totally knew how to do it, but nowaday with her 3rd child she gives a fuck on that.
    Anyway if you don't train your dog sit down stay heel...and play tug o' war you'll have problems, but you'd have them, also if not plyaying tug. You need to establish the pecking order and be consequent and patient, that is the secret of raising a stable, good dog wht breed so ever
    We train three to four times a week for Schutzhund and everybody has either a ball or a no idea what it's called in english (direct German translation would be biting sausage) a recktangular thing made from jute, leather or nylon, which is tightly stuffed and is used as biting surface and for retrieving... (no idea what I#m talking about, see here http://www.zooplus.de/app/WebObjects/ZooShop.woa?AF=15558&PG=339&PID=4932)
    and you even get the advise to tug and let the dogs win, so the dog won't loose interest in the game and will do anything for it...
    And I was bitten by a four months old puppy at that time and she only wanted her rope, that my belly was there was just bad luck. I started sliming down and got wiser...
     
  10. dznutts

    dznutts Big Dog

    I guess your belly was popping out farther than the rope....LOL....
     
  11. miakoda

    miakoda GRCH Dog

    tug of war is fun to play. the rule to remember is that you start the game and you end it. teaching your dog a "release" command is probably one of the best it can know. when starting out tell it to "take" the rope (or whatever command you want), then play a little bit, then tell him to release. at that time offer a piece of a treat. at that age, he'll usually go for the food. that way as they age, you remain in control and you don't have to be an hour late to whereever you were headed cause your dog wouldn't let go of the rope. :D on a side note, wait till he's at least 1 yr before you do heavy running/jogging with him. these dogs grow till about 1 1/2 - 2 yrs of age. give his joints, bones, & muscles some time to mature. HAVE FUN!
     

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