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Mouth grip Exercises

Discussion in 'Training & Behavior' started by mellosup, Sep 27, 2017.

  1. mellosup

    mellosup Pup

    Hey community, it's been a while since i last posted, was very inexperienced and went with any dog that appeared to be more appearance rather than a specific trait or skill i was willing to invest additional time into given that the breeder had done their part and brought up the right condition. With that being said, my pup is near 4 months and was wondering if he has great wrestling skills but lacks a good grip on his toys and rope, what can i do to condition his jaw to apply the right amount of pressure to develop a better grip? Thus far i have been trying cotton plush's but all that does is draw spots of blood from his misplaced bites. Any reference or advice would be greatly appreciated. I just want to be set in the right direction in raising an all round dog is all. Thanks.
  2. majestasi

    majestasi Pup

    Drop rabbits. They are soft enough to not break his teeth. And fast enough to get out the way ,picks up his prey drive and the urge to hold on tighter. At about 6 months drop piglets have his weight.
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  3. mellosup

    mellosup Pup

  4. mellosup

    mellosup Pup

    That's a great idea if I had a wide acred field but I need a more discreet method, I stay in apartments with nosey neighbors that are too good for their own good
  5. slim12

    slim12 CH Dog Staff Member

    The flirt pole. It will challenge his prey drive. It will work his entire body and he will learn to target.

    I would not worry so much about his mouth till all his adult teeth are in. Let him gram the rag and do some tugging the give it up and let him win. Praise him up when he wins.

    At 4 months let him be a puppy. Make everything he does a game even when it is mimicking or preparing him for hard work down the road.

    Good luck.

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  6. pitbulld0gs

    pitbulld0gs Top Dog Staff Member

    This ^

    Not to mention, not all will grip, they only do it if they want to, you may encourage it but that still doesn't mean they will.
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  7. Saiyagin

    Saiyagin Chihuahua Premium Member

    So I guess no one has heard about the peanut butter technique to entice a dog to grip/hold. LMAO
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  8. wicked13

    wicked13 Top Dog

    its coconuts it has and always will be coconuts
  9. Very Sound Advice.
  10. oldguy

    oldguy Big Dog

    I was a big fan of springpole, mostly worked my dogs between that and flirtpole.. In one of the photos below, the dog's working an old piece of hemp rope, but the other 2 he's working some car inner tube, I lived in the city, never had access to animal hide (no Stillwater back then) so used whatever I could find.. I'd let my dogs chew up old car tyres, tore the shit out of them and they loved it, but apart from wearing down their teeth, I'm convinced the chemicals in the rubber gave my dogs cancer. I lost a few before my pea brain worked that out.

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  11. AGK

    AGK Super duper pooper scooper Staff Member

    I never really believed you can get a dog to bite any harder than it would already bite naturally. Maybe a tiny bit but nothing dramatic. I've had dogs that never chewed bones or anything like that, never cared for the spring pole yet would bite and do incredible damage while doing so. Then I've also had ones that work a pole regularly and is always chewing on hard bones constantly yet couldn't bite their way out a wet paper bag. What I have noticed is, the ones with the longer, more narrow type muzzles bit a lot harder than the ones with the shorter muzzle's and more blocky heads. I believe they bite hard or they don't. You could fine tune it a tiny bit using certain exercises but at the end of the day, they either did or they didn't have a mouth on them and no amount of exercise did much difference.
  12. oldguy

    oldguy Big Dog

    I agree with you AGK .. I used springpole a lot and don't believe I witnessed any dog with average mouth improve much (if at all) as a result of that type of exercise, I gave it to dogs who really enjoyed it, a reward after chasing a flirtpole and once they got on it, that's when the singing started :)
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  13. bamaman

    bamaman CH Dog

    Dog bites hard because it wants to.Yep some couldnt even if they wanted to.Personally I have saw no distinctive features to determine which will bite the hardest.JMO.I say help save on the hardware and let the dog decide how bard it wants to bite.JMO
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  14. GK1

    GK1 Big Dog

    I’ve been tinkering with grip work and targeting for several years now with my dogs, and observing others in my club doing the same. From my limited experience, I would agree genetics predominate the dog’s ability/willingness/drive to bite, catch, hold, etc. However, I see the flirt, spring, frisbee, ball, tug, sleeve etc. as effective tools in building overall strength, coordination and endurance. Common sense dictates there is more benefit in firing and tuning the various muscle groups which facilitate the bite than leaving them dormant. But I can’t speak for hunting/animal combat.
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  15. My Mouth wont come down hard until i see fit /wont run hot .. Good trait i found in sum buc/pure rb here. 426306 x 490480
  16. pitbulld0gs

    pitbulld0gs Top Dog Staff Member

    Meh, AGK and Bama have it right imho. I have a male here now that loves the spring pole and even after weeks of work, his bite doesn't change much, he still bites about the same in terms of how hard. If there is a difference, it's not noticeable to me. Also have a little black bitch here, longer narrow muzzle and when she bites, she takes chunks of whatever it is with her. She has been on a bird killing spree these last couple of months, everyone of them has big chunks taken out of them, real clean bite, whereas my male just grabs them and crushes them lol.
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  17. c_note

    c_note CH Dog

    May sound silly, but I think it’s the amount of the ancestor breeds in the dog/family. Bulldogs were never supposed to bite hard or do a lot of damage. Grip, hold, wait. Terriers on the other hand were to dig out their pray, fighting it in the hole, and maybe kill it there. I feel like the more terrier in the background the more intense the dog or bite. More bulldog less out of holds. This is just something I have come to believe
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  18. oldguy

    oldguy Big Dog

    Makes sense to me!
  19. pitbulld0gs

    pitbulld0gs Top Dog Staff Member

    Hard for me to disagree with this as i have seen it first hand, coincidence? Not sure but it sure don't seem like it.
  20. GK1

    GK1 Big Dog

    Interesting theory. I would think the ancient mollossers (bulldog predecessors?) which went to war with the Roman legions or fought in the gladiator arenas were expected to crush bones and destroy foes.

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