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More Sanctions on Iran

Discussion in 'Chit Chat' started by ETRaven, Jan 5, 2018.

  1. ETRaven

    ETRaven Big Dog

    How do you guys feel about that?
    Personally, I think it is a good thing. I know a lot of um, snowflakes, see it as overly aggressive, but in this political climate, it's been proven by the last idiot we had in the White House that making friends with our enemies, don't work. I think we need to get a little aggressive and get some of our reputation back as a country not to be messed with.
     
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  2. kiwidogman

    kiwidogman Top Dog

    Somebody has to keep the savages from ruining it for the rest of us.
    By all means, MAGA!
     
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  3. oldguy

    oldguy CH Dog

    Amen to that ! :)
     
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  4. wicked13

    wicked13 CH Dog

    Gota understand the history of the area way back before the shahs were replaced in the 60s or 50s
     
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  5. ETRaven

    ETRaven Big Dog

    Trump/Pence 2020!!!
     
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  6. ETRaven

    ETRaven Big Dog

    I don't know what it was like back then. So I can't speak to that. I'll definitely dig into it.
    However, what is happening now is ridiculous. They're punishing the people over there for sanctions imposed by the U.S. I'm torn over this, because how much more should wet get involved? We westerners value human life differently than the majority of the eastern culture. I think it's time that people in that part of the world rise up and fight their government, like our revolution from England, without begging us to intervene, then turning on us when they don't need us anymore. However, I don't recall the gruesome brutality of England v Colonies as there is in those parts of the world. (could be being naive) The radicals in the east horrifically kill for sport.
    I feel like we've gotten too involved with everyone else and should have never wavered from our stance on things in the first place. We should've upheld our rules with the rest of the world no matter what. Ie: you trade with N Korea, you're cut off from American trade. Period. All this bending and negotiating has gotten us into this mess. Trump is trying to clean it up.
     
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  7. oldguy

    oldguy CH Dog

    With respect, American foreign policy appears similar to British colonialism in 19th and 20th centuries .. Never mind the brutality of England v Colonies, I know something about England's brutality towards Scotland, they call it ethnic cleansing today! A million men, women and children starved to death in the Irish potato famine, but does anyone actually know how many Scots families starved to death or died of cold n the mountains during the Scottish wars of independence or the Highland clearances? Many who survived emigrated to America and Canada, but who knows how many of the natives they slaughtered while stealing their land and resources, then when the Scottish immigrants acquired huge wealth and status, who knows how many negro slaves they stole from Africa to create greater wealth? The wealth of ex prime minister of UK (david cameron) traces back directly to the slave trade..
    There could be as many as a million civilian deaths in Raqqa as direct result of nato bombs, we bombed Iraq back into the stone age, the people never asked for our help, it was a straight business arrangement between the US and UK, we took out Saddam, handed that shit hole over to his enemies and they paid for our services in oil until ISIS moved in.. It's about money and power and the poor blown up bastards and mutilated babies are only collateral damage in the west's greed for wealth and power!
     
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  8. kiwidogman

    kiwidogman Top Dog

    The West doesn't have a monopoly on greed for wealth & power. It is a human condition borne of thousands of years of a 'if we don't grab what makes us stronger, they will' evolutionary drive.

    African slave markets weren't stocked & run by white men. Other Africans did that to each other, usually fir the reason outlined above. White people were just one type of customer, this is conveniently ignored today.
     
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  9. wicked13

    wicked13 CH Dog

    Yes but I believe it was rosevelt who said it but I might be wrong that nothing in government just happens it's set in place ,hating people for no real reason other then what you see being portrayed by the media Seems backwards to me The higher ups want these things to happen it ain't the lil Muslim. Doing the brain work they Barley can get water.. the people that gain are the people to blame and if u wanna look up a hateful savage religion better look up what the Talmud teaches
     
  10. wicked13

    wicked13 CH Dog

    Slave trade in Africa was started by Jews Hebrews not white peoples until it made it to the states. Also Africans were owned by other Africans ... also for point of reference American does have a monopoly every place we land we don't leave over 500 military bases no other country. Can say that
     
  11. wicked13

    wicked13 CH Dog

    Isis al queda all those were created to create instability across the continent and to have a boogey man every generation had it. Back in the day they were worried of Russia and its nukes now it's Kim jung same shit different decade remember create the problem so you can charge to fix it war on drugs Nixon bringing in Coke from the contras
     
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  12. kiwidogman

    kiwidogman Top Dog

    Ahhhh no it wasn't. Slavery existed long before ANY established religion. It was the Judeo Christian religions that drove if slavery in
     
  13. wicked13

    wicked13 CH Dog

    Jews ain't Christian I should of been more clear earliest documented cases of slavery was that of Hebrew slave owners not that it did not did not exists prior to those time lines
     
  14. kiwidogman

    kiwidogman Top Dog

    Drove ABOLITION of slavery. Where does slavery exist today? Islamic countries ONLY, as a rule.
     
  15. oldguy

    oldguy CH Dog

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  16. kiwidogman

    kiwidogman Top Dog

  17. wicked13

    wicked13 CH Dog

    I believe it's estimated. Close to a few million child slaves in the world Today ..Nike's gota to get them shoes made
     
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  18. wicked13

    wicked13 CH Dog

    Also another side note if anyone researches Iran was also tied into the Reagan contra thing I need to correct myself it was not Nixon it was Reagan in my previous post
     
  19. kiwidogman

    kiwidogman Top Dog

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  20. oldguy

    oldguy CH Dog

    Your a hard scratcher Kiwi, I'll give you that! :) Respect!
     
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