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Methods for Strength Training during Keep

Discussion in 'Training & Behavior' started by budgee, Apr 6, 2015.

  1. budgee

    budgee Pup

    Hi
    Was wandering what different methods you use for strength training. I'm aware of the following;
    1. Carpet Mill
    2. Weight Collar
    3. Drag chain during walk
    4. Weighted Harness

    How do you get the dog to work as hard/intensity as he does on a carpet mill, with the other 3?
    Do you add more sets?
    Thanks
     
  2. c_note

    c_note CH Dog

    Start with low weight and work up.
     
  3. slim12

    slim12 CH Dog Staff Member

    It will be hard to get the intensity of a carpet mill with the other three. Maybe with a bike or four wheeler, or maybe having another dog out front to keep him jacked. Pulling chains is usually a slower steady pull over distance/time. It builds strength but it is not an intensive exercise, effective, but not as intense.


    Figure out a way to all-out sprint the dog. Repeated sprints can be amazing. S
     
  4. Mop Master

    Mop Master Yard Boi AKA MopMaster, Gutter Boy & LWG

    find you a creek about chest high (on the dog) have him
    fetch up against the current.
     
  5. GcGc

    GcGc Pup

    I have dog that's 50% game bloodline 50%staff line built like a game dog but has staff type colering. His favorite thing was springpole until I hooked a rope to a weight machine one with cables and you can adjust the weight from 10-150pounds. The rope hooked where the leg curl is. Anyway I got him up to 80pounds where he will yank and shake and sometimes just tug like he on a springpole and he only 45ish-50. He doesn't want his springpole now that he has this and will go up to a hour non stop depending on Weight
     
  6. Abear

    Abear Pup

    Check out some swimming for the resistance
     
  7. budgee

    budgee Pup

    Thanks for all the replies
    Next question:
    What's your rule of thumb for the amount of weight to start with?
    How much do you increase?
    When do you increase?(weekly/daily)
    Thanks
     
  8. budgee

    budgee Pup

    Assuming it's a 45# dog and is already a strong natural puller
     
  9. NYSTATEOFMIND

    NYSTATEOFMIND Big Dog

    Flirt pole to work on sprinting and making fast turns. builds up wind for short busrts. Also I sit in the trunk of car while wifey drives slow with dog on leash. You can only do this obviously in rural areas. Tire pull down the block on a harness, and I still use a "cat-mill" of sorts..minus the cat. I take an old pair of my jeans, and use it to play Tug with a dogs for a few days, then I attach it to the Cat mill. It is loaded with my scent and some dogs Will chase it for a long time.
     
  10. GcGc

    GcGc Pup

    I use to be big into weight lifting so I use alot of the methods .

    when I first was getting him use to it. I used low weight to not get him frustrated or discouraged. Now I start about half the max he likes to do once he gets going I'll put it up to his max and let him wear down. Once he starts lagging. I'll cut it in half and let him burn out.

    I
    basically watch the dog if say its on #50 and he tearing shit up I know he can do more and increase it. I also occasionally have him stop for couple mins and it allows him to go max level again
     
  11. okcdogman82

    okcdogman82 Top Dog

    are you going too use the dog for weight pull?
     
  12. niko

    niko CH Dog

    Ive also had great results with sprint work
     
  13. 21 dre

    21 dre Big Dog

    What are you training for, the track or the woods? This breed is naturally strong so you don't need a ton of strength work unless you just want them to look cocky. With these dogs, you want Bruce Lee...not Lee Haney.
     
  14. budgee

    budgee Pup

    the woods for boar hunting
     
  15. 21 dre

    21 dre Big Dog

    One thing that worked/works for us is to play catch with someone with a cong ball as the dog is chasing it. Stand 40-50 yards apart from the other guy and chuck away!! Have the dog drag in between you two, basically it's suicide drills like in basketball practice. When I throw the ball, my partner will get it and throw it right back. I'll get it then keep the dog on interested and on his feet for 30 seconds...(recover!!) the throw it again. Just know the difference between the dog being bored and having muscle fatigue. Hope this helps.
     
  16. Beatrix Kiddo

    Beatrix Kiddo Top Dog

    i started mine out doing drag work, pulling 15lbs of chain
     
  17. TheCoach

    TheCoach Pup

    Manual resistance is an easy modality to use.
    Walk/bike the dog in harness with some kind of lure in front of him. Your weight and strength provides the resistance. This builds endurance-strength.
    When I was a teen I walked dogs next to a lake. The geese and ducks just off shore would have the dog lunging, jumping, dragging me, etc......
    This is good for building absolute strength and power
     

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