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members of congress to introduce historic legistation on june 23

Discussion in 'Chit Chat' started by old goat, Jun 22, 2011.

  1. old goat

    old goat CH Dog

    look at how the police get you buy using a flawed drug test . and k-9's also give false possitive results . never plea deal . that's how they make their money . you need a lawyer and then yo will pay a fine if you got a lawyer and money . or you will go to jail . i sat in the court room and watch ed . the ones that have money and a lawyer will do ok . but the poor will get time . i saw a young mexican guy get 3 months for some burnt . and i was there just for jury duty .
    http://cannabisculture.com/v2/content/2011/08/05/Miscarriage-Justice-Marijuana
     
  2. RRL

    RRL Top Dog

    yup...better call saul!
     
  3. bgblok68

    bgblok68 CH Dog

    The drug tests are a joke. Just a way for them to get income.
     
  4. RRL

    RRL Top Dog

    post the article about the DEA working with the Mexican drug lord,allowing tons of "illegal" (for us common folk) drugs into the USA.As long as this guy ratted out his compitition they didn't care what he did.I saw it on the news the other day.
     
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    Drug Czar "Too Busy" to Meet With Fellow Cops

    By Norm Stamper, Huffington Post - Monday, August 8 2011 Tags:
    Law Enforcement Against Prohibition tries to get Gil Kerlkowske to read their report on the failed War on Drugs
    [​IMG]Back in June, representatives of Law Enforcement Against Prohibition, a 40,000-member organization led by Executive Director Neill Franklin, marched from the National Press Club to the Office of National Drug Control Policy headquarters. Our mission: to hand-deliver a copy of our new report, "Ending the Drug War: A Dream Deferred," to the nation's drug czar.
    We thought the 40th anniversary of President Nixon's famous declaration of the "war on drugs" would be a good time for reflection on what has been achieved -- or not -- over these past decades.
    Common courtesy dictates that the head of ONDCP, Gil Kerlkowske, do what his aide promised on his behalf, namely that he would read the report and tell us what he thinks. Perhaps we weren't sufficiently "official" in our request. Perhaps this appeal will be more successful.



    MEMORANDUM
    Date: August 6, 2011
    To: Gil Kerlikowske, Seattle Chief of Police (Ret.)
    From: Norm Stamper, Seattle Chief of Police (Ret.)
    Subject: You Can Run But You Can't Hide
    We didn't just drop by on June 14, Gil. We had sent emails and made phone calls asking for a meeting. Our requests went unanswered. So we decided to show up in person, and hope for an audience.
    Instead, you sent your aide downstairs to head us off in the lobby. The man graciously accepted the report, promised to deliver it to you, and to convey our request that you get back to us with your reactions.

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    Just curious, have you read it?
    It's a short report, only 19 pages. The print is large, there are lots of charts, graphs, photos, even an executive summary. Perhaps if you read only the executive summary?
    As we told your aide, and the press, we were seeking an opportunity to present evidence of the sweeping failure of U.S. drug policy. History confirms that prohibition causes death, disease, crime and violence. It also contributes to addiction. Prohibition costs this country between fifty and seventy billion dollars a year. Think about the fiscal effect of replacing prohibition with a regulatory model. (Such a change may not have single-handedly staved off the debt-ceiling crisis, but it's hardly chump change.)
    Think about the return on investment, human and financial, if we were to pump at least a portion of those savings into drug education, prevention, and treatment.
    The "Ending the Drug War" report leaves no doubt about the absurdity of the country's drug policies. But, to this day, we have not heard from you. Is your silence because you lack an adequate answer to the points we've made?
    From all outward indications, you are following in the steps of your predecessor, John Walters. A George W. Bush appointee, Mr. Walters rarely missed an opportunity to duck a debate with drug policy reformers.
    Or, did you dodge us because, by law, the drug czar cannot support legislation or any other initiative that would legalize drugs?
    Crazy as it seems, and as un-American and unscientific as it plainly is, it is true that you must oppose any and all attempts to legalize the use of currently illicit drugs. According to the "Office of National Drug Control Policy Reauthorization Act of 1998," the director "shall ensure that no Federal funds appropriated to the Office of National Drug Control Policy shall be expended for any study or contract relating to the legalization (for a medical use or any other use) of a substance listed in schedule 1."
    But we weren't there to ask for money, Gil. And we do understand that you haven't the authority to change laws.
    Our expectation was that you'd at least be willing to have a grownup conversation about our drug laws.
    In today's climate, with marijuana clearly on a course to legalization by popular demand, we were particularly interested in your personal view that cannabis has "no medicinal benefit," a position recently made official by the Drug Enforcement Administration. DEA? Narcs, not docs?
    You've also asserted that marijuana should continue to be classified, along with heroin and crystal meth, as a "Schedule 1" drug, thereby buttressing the position that the feds, not the states, reign triumphant in the government's battle to keep recreational marijuana out of the hands of responsible adults, and medicinal marijuana away from patients suffering intractable pain, wasting and terminal illnesses.
    These are issues that beg to be discussed, Gil. With all stakeholders, including your former colleagues in law enforcement.
    LEAP repeats its request. Will you please sit down and have an open dialogue with us? We are, as you know, current and former chiefs, sheriffs, rank-and-file cops, prosecutors, judges, prison wardens, and agents of the FBI, DEA, Homeland Security.
    We've come by our anti-drug war views honestly, through scholarship, research and real-world experience. Our point of view is increasingly in alignment with that of citizen-taxpayers across the country.
    We're not going away, Gil. Talk to us.
    - Article Originally from The Huffington Postr.



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  14. ElJay

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    nice. so ridiculous. they act like if they pretend we're not here, we'll go away. sigh....
     
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    12 Days in Jail Over a Faulty Drug Test

    By Randy Furst, Star Tribune - Monday, August 15 2011 Tags:
    Warroad woman was held in Canada after a motor oil bottle tested positive for heroin.
    [​IMG]In April, Janet Goodin of Warroad, Minn., was crossing into Canada for an evening of bingo with her daughters when an officer with the Canadian Border Service conducted a routine search of her van. The officer found an old bottle of motor oil, did a field test and told her that it contained heroin.
    "I can't even describe the feeling of amazement," Goodin, 66, said in an interview. "I said, 'That's not possible, it's leftover oil.'"
    The bottle was re-tested, and agents said it again revealed the presence of heroin. Goodin was arrested, handcuffed and taken to jail, where she was strip-searched. The motor oil was sent to a Canadian federal laboratory, which eventually determined there was no heroin in it. After 12 days behind bars, Goodin was released.
    Goodin's case has been seized upon by critics who question the reliability of field drug-test kits, which are used widely by law enforcement.
    "She is what you call collateral damage in the drug war," said former FBI special agent Frederic Whitehurst, a North Carolina attorney and forensic consultant with a Ph.D. in analytic chemistry, who has publicly raised concerns about field drug-test kits. "When you run the tests, you run into all sorts of problems from overzealous cops."
    Goodin was actually arrested twice: first by the Border Service, which performed the field test, and then by the Royal Canadian Mounted Police (RCMP), which took over her case from the Border Service.
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    The Border Service won't explain how they made the mistake. But Sgt. Line Karpish of the RCMP said her agency used "reasonable grounds" based on information it got from the Canadian Border Service. She noted that drugs are smuggled into Canada by all types of people. "We find it in diapers, we find it on old ladies, young ladies, beautiful ladies," Karpish says. "You can't let 'grandma' cloud your judgment about the police force. That's why terrorists use kids."
    As she waited in a Canadian jail, Goodin, who said her only court-related record is a bad check she wrote in 2001, became increasingly alarmed after learning that she could get a 2-year prison sentence. Rather than pay at least $5,000 cash to make bail, she decided to stay in jail and save the money for a lawyer.
    Meanwhile, the RCMP sent the bottle of oil to the federal Canadian health lab for testing, "and because the person in question was a U.S. citizen, a rush was put on it," Karpish said. "We were called by the lab and told this isn't contraband. We said, 'Okay, this isn't good.' Our [RCMP] member contacted the federal crown [the prosecutor], informed them of this finding. They proceeded to stay the charges, and she was released from custody right away."
    Whitehurst finds the delay unacceptable. "Twelve days is really not a rush job," he said. While he said that it cannot be done for everyone, the bottle of oil could have been hand-delivered to the Canadian lab, which could have analyzed it within an hour.
    There have been other controversies over field drug tests. In 2008, a Canadian couple who have a homemade chocolate business, Ron Obadia and Nadine Artemis, were detained by Canadian border agents and then the U.S. border patrol after they were told their chocolate tested positive for marijuana. Both times, after many hours, they were released. They said they bought the same test kits to test their own chocolate and other brands, including Hershey. The tests detected marijuana in all of them.
    The couple has followed the Goodin case. "I think it's horrific," said Nadine Artemis. "I can't believe she had to spend time in jail."
    Field drug-test companies defend their product. Jack Thorndike, a sales and training representative in North Carolina for Nark field drug tests, says that when the tests are properly conducted, they can be used by law enforcement as confirmation of probable cause of illicit drugs. Both Hennepin County and the city of Minneapolis use Nark products, but the Canadian Border Service uses a different brand, Thorndike said.
    Field tests are reliable, he said, but they are insufficient evidence for conviction and require follow-up lab tests.
    Goodin has hired a Canadian lawyer and doesn't want to talk about her next step. A widow who lives on Social Security, Goodin told Whistleblower, "I was so angry at first, and then I got to be really afraid. ... If it could happen to me, it could happen to anybody."
    Since her May 2 release, she has crossed the Canadian border at least 10 times. "The first time I took the van back, I went over it with a fine-toothed comb," she said. "I was shaking in my boots. I don't speak to them unless they speak to me. ... Now they all know me."
     
  17. ElJay

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    Ridiculous! this war must stop
     
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  19. old goat

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    if you want a really good laugh and be pissed and see alot of lying read this .it's long but you will be pissed . damn FDA TEST . and we're supposed to believe this. hell they give ok for many medicines that hurt you bad . and at the end see who's going to make the money .big pharm
    http://www.whitehousedrugpolicy.gov/strategy/2011ndcs/chapter1.html#MM
     
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