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Mayweather vs. McGregor

Discussion in 'Chit Chat' started by F.D., Mar 11, 2017.

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  1. Box Bulldog

    Box Bulldog Top Dog

    Dont compare a punch drunk washed up 5'9'' fat James Toney to Floyd Mayweather. I could tell you to watch Ray Mercer take Tim Silvia's head of in a MMA fight but I see as much in common with Tim Silvia and Conor McGreger as I do with Floyd Mayweather and James Toney.
     
  2. thecableguy

    thecableguy Big Dog

    Henderson didn't get tkoed party it should won by decion
     
  3. F.D.

    F.D. Top Dog

    Yea I was just trying to find an example.
     
  4. thecableguy

    thecableguy Big Dog

    Was
    Wasn't a tko Pettis stole the fight with that kick and won by decion
     
  5. c_note

    c_note CH Dog

    I'm betting everything I have on this fight... literally. Connor couldn't beat Cotto, Alverez, Mosley, or any of the other hard punchers Money-May beat in a boxing match. I don't even think he could beat Marquez or Ricky Hatton. Connor punches decent for an mma fighter. Cody Garbrandt has better hands than Connor imo. Connor has a good left, combos could be better. All those guys I named were world champion BOXERS, who boxed all their lives and couldn't beat Floyd!!! The only one who had a CHANCE was Sugar Shane. He had Floyd hurt but didn't jump on him! A younger Mosley probably would have got a knockdown. Maybe a younger De La Hoya
     
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  6. thecableguy

    thecableguy Big Dog

    you seem a bit seasoned at this so I got a question for Mayweather takes really good care of himself and was never Hurt to the point were the fight had be stopped because he is 49 _0 shit we only seen him rocked a handful of times But what about all the gym wars He probably has thousands of hours of sparring under his belt He may have the best defense ever but I'm sure sparring takes its tolls with that being said he just turned 40 and fighters don't age well and age over night we haven't seen money may in there in almost 2 years I dont think Mayweather uses dope or smokes shit I don't even think Mayweather drinks so that's in his favor But father time is undefeated Mayweather has been able to dodge him for now .... Do you think we will the same Mayweather That beat and re berto
     
  7. promoe

    promoe Top Dog

    if connor spars with a muzzle on he should prepared for Floyd frustrating him and fatigue shouldn't play an issue! lol sorry had to poke a little fun as his thread is quite comical. People forget MMA has evolved over the past 10 yrs, its not the same skill level as it was in the past. Its more evenly matched now a days. its not the typical striker vs grappler matches. look at how conner slept aldo...do you think aldo vs Mayweather would have the same amount of criticism?
     
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  8. slim12

    slim12 Super Moderator Staff Member

    I'm not sure a fight with Conor will expose any of the 2 years he has been in retirement. I can't see Connor testing him in anyway.

    I'm not fan of Floyd Mayweather but he is just about the greatest boxer of all time. Like the above post said, world class/world champions could not get it done.

    Floyd's best weapon is his mind. He is all nuts pre-fight but he always thinks with the right organ during the fight and then all nuts/balls post fight. There has been a ton of time talk and antics inside and outside the ring have been used to bait him into a brawl or a fight. Never once did he lose sight of being the best boxer in the world. Boring as all get out, but still the best.

    Conor's only real chance is in the first round, maybe the second and then if he can make Floyd fight. Other than that is will be nothing more than a glorified sparring session. 20 plus million, but still just sparring.

    S
     
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  9. thecableguy

    thecableguy Big Dog

    I don't agree with you but Chris algieri might of been a kick boxing champ and boxing but Tito Ortiz and Dana white where suppose to box out some beef they had and Tito wanted no part of Dana white. yes mma has Come along way but they are to different sports shit I think the punch drunk zombie Brandon rios could beat on Conor in a boxing match
     
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  10. c_note

    c_note CH Dog

    No rust for this if it happens. It'll be like those wars, only it miiiiiight be easier. If Connor gets frustrated, Money will dance and make him look silly. I'm positive Floyd has sparred with countless champs and ex champs. This will be easy work. Connor has a punchers chance, but it's VERY low. I don't see him having the boxing skill to expose Mayweather enough to capitalize. If it happens, the antics will outway the action imo. I just don't see him having the juice to get er done
     
  11. slim12

    slim12 Super Moderator Staff Member

    It has come a long way. It was forced evolution or get mashed.

    The foot work still separates. The front foot can go way forward to strike in boxing where as in MMA that leaves one with a leg kick that can't be checked. Brutal.

    In a cross over fight like this I'm wondering at what point Conor lifts a foot or knee without thinking, just reacting.

    Or even better, a double leg stump job in the middle of the ring. That would be killer.

    S
     
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  12. promoe

    promoe Top Dog

    lol again this thread gets even more comical...comparing tito vs dana takes the cake. when has tito been known for his stand up? better yet how many wins does tito have by stopping people on his feet? none...just a handful of tkos while ground n pound. wasn't there talk about a klitschko vs jon jones? yet it wasn't s one sided converstsion to how jones would have nothing to bring to the table when stepping into the ring. ofcourse all of these other boxers claims to ko'in connor IMO a ploy to getting a big pay day. Another question...how many wrestlers/grapplers have had huge success in cage after working on the their stand up? So who is to say that conner hasn't made huge strides in his stand up to provide a competitive match up against a retired Mayweather? to me its complete ignorance to speculate that Mayweather would walk thru a younger ,stronger McGregor....Conner is not a stupid man..i am pretty sure he knows what he is getting into.Mayweather is 40 and Conner is 28 ,if the roles were reversed id jump on the Mayweather bandwagon along with the rest of you. when was the last time Floyd didn't dance his way to a W? oh btw conner started boxing at the age of 12 and became an all irish boxing champion, of ALL the posts on here calling conner a rough cur with no talent...makes me chuckle the most. this no talent cur has 2 ufc titles. I could see if he was and bellator champ. JM2C
     
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  13. promoe

    promoe Top Dog

    lol again this thread gets even more comical...comparing tito vs dana takes the cake. when has tito been known for his stand up? better yet how many wins does tito have by stopping people on his feet? none...just a handful of tkos while ground n pound. wasn't there talk about a klitschko vs jon jones? yet it wasn't s one sided converstsion to how jones would have nothing to bring to the table when stepping into the ring. ofcourse all of these other boxers claims to ko'in connor IMO a ploy to getting a big pay day. Another question...how many wrestlers/grapplers have had huge success in cage after working on the their stand up? So who is to say that conner hasn't made huge strides in his stand up to provide a competitive match up against a retired Mayweather? to me its complete ignorance to speculate that Mayweather would walk thru a younger ,stronger McGregor....Conner is not a stupid man..i am pretty sure he knows what he is getting into.Mayweather is 40 and Conner is 28 ,if the roles were reversed id jump on the Mayweather bandwagon along with the rest of you. when was the last time Floyd didn't dance his way to a W? oh btw conner started boxing at the age of 12 and became an all irish boxing champion, of ALL the posts on here calling conner a rough cur with no little talent
     
  14. thecableguy

    thecableguy Big Dog

    When your only weapons are ur hands Thereat of a take down changes the whole course of a fight so do leg kicks why did conor start throwing so many leg kicks in his 2nd fight with Diaz In the first fight conor became a wrestler If his boxing was so good why did need to hire pro boxers to train for Nate Diaz? Why didn't he just use his usual sparring partners Nate can box but he is no pro his chin granite and has a lot of heart is what make him such a threat I think conor has great stand up but boxing is different sports .. UFC 209 Wonderboy vs Woodley Woodley would get smashed in a muayThai fight but the threat of the takedown changed everything
     
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  15. slim12

    slim12 Super Moderator Staff Member

    Mayweather has never fought his way to a W. That is why I think he is too smart and too skilled, even 2 years out, for Conor to have a real chance. A slim chance early on but after that just two world class athletes competing in only one of their specialties.

    At 28 he is younger and stronger, but age and treachery most often trumps youth and skill.

    The two premises of boxing is to hit and then not get hit. Mayweather is just about the best ever at that and his compuscores say he is one of the all time greats when doing the hitting.

    Conor is best served with someone coming forward, boxing or MMA, Aldo the perfect example, and Mayweather will never walk right down main street.

    It is a payday for both.

    S
     
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  16. Box Bulldog

    Box Bulldog Top Dog

    I am not a fan of Floyd or his style to tell the honest truth I watched all of his fights hoping to see him loose. But I will give him credit he is a exceptional athlete. The only faster fighter I ever saw him against him was Zab Judah. He has a way of figureing fighters out he may loose a early round or two but after that he dominates. He has GREAT defense the only time I remember him ever getting caught clean was against Shane Mosley. He had a very close fight with Marcos Madiana but had him figured well in the rematch. Love him or hate him he has earned respect. As for Conor he maybe a alright boxer for a MMA fighter but as just a boxer he is nothing. I have been to many amateur boxing events and he wouldn't be much at that level never mind against Floyd. As C note said already I will bet the house. As sure of a bet as can be.
     
  17. niko

    niko CH Dog

    Floyd is a MASTER at his craft....anybody wanna bet on Connor?..lmao....how many people would actually bet on Connor in a boxing match against UNDEAFETED Floyd Mayweather???...are you kidding me I'll take your money lol
     
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  18. Box Bulldog

    Box Bulldog Top Dog

    You would be surprised how many complete fools there is out there. I heard these punks at work saying how Conors going to knock his ass out. I should tell my boss to fire them if they are stupid enough to think that they should not be working for us. I to can't wait to get paid.
     
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  19. slim12

    slim12 Super Moderator Staff Member

    Agreed. The only thing Connor really has going for him is that I am betting against him. Lately that is all the other team needs is me betting against them. LOL

    Jerry Rice at 40 two years removed against Richard Sherman at 28 still playing. Edge goes to Sherman. Jerry Rice two years removed against a 28 year old Luke Kuekly who only has to cover occasionally and only in certain parts of the field. Edge goes to Rice.

    All three play football. Conor and Floyd both fight. All 3 have been deemed the best at their respective jobs. Rice and Mayweather are arguably the best their sports have had to offer. Each has a specialty. Each dominates/dominated their tasks when compared to others at the same position. But to ask a guy to go outside his specialty against the very best in the world the first time out is a bit much.

    When big dogging people MacGregor is as good as his sport has to offer. When even or big dogged, he is just really good. Floyd has mastered the ring and mastered the prep. He always boxes on his side of the street, on the day and time he chooses against the people he chooses.

    I call it cherry picking but when a fighter is hot and in his prime Mayweather boxes the other two guys and comes back to the guy once he has been knocked around a little. Mayweather out boxes the other guys after they fought other fighters.

    After all that said, if I bet the house, Connor has a real chance.

    S
     
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  20. c_note

    c_note CH Dog

    If this fight happens, I'll bet whatever you wanna bet... Connor couldn't beat most of the guys Floyd beat. Like 80-90%. Floyd has been a champ and beating champs/chumps since the 90s... He may not have fought who we wanted him to WHEN we wanted him to, but he fought em and won. His defense is THE BEST I have ever seen. Call it runnin, duckin, hidin, dancin, or whatever, defense is about NOT getting hit. Who did that better than Floyd? We all love a good fight, but boxing isn't always fighting. Connor hasn't mastered the timing and footwork of boxing, like Slim said. Whooooole different animal!

    Now this business of Connor being an Irish boxing champ?!?!?!?! WHEN??????? I ain't neeeeeeevaaa heard that!! Maybe when he was a kid!! Even then, that's like saying he was the best RECREATION team player in the city. A small city at that. Who is the best Irish boxer of all times? Don't google it either...

    I been a Mayweather fan since he beat Diego Chico Corrales (rip), been watchin him longer than that!

    Favorite all time fighter PERIOD???




    Kid Dynamite, IRON, Mike Tyson!!!
     
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