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Looking for a show quality show dog

Discussion in 'Staffordshire Bull Terriers' started by old time dogman, Mar 10, 2010.

  1. BGD

    BGD Pup

    They look like that Frenchie got into the blood somewhere down the line.
     
  2. Tigerlines

    Tigerlines Banned

    what you need to bare in mind is that,....the percentage of those breeding show dogs , inbred of the m line dogs is tiny............the vast magority of staffords kept and bred are nothing like the show strain stuff...........particularly in areas where these dogs have run the streets for generations......ten a penny like rats in a sewer
     
  3. Tigerlines i feel like i need a translator for some of your replies. Do you mean that most staffs in the UK are more performance type?

    Man those crossgun dogs sure have short noses. Someone said it right when it looks like that frenchie got in the genepool somewhere.
     
  4. Tigerlines

    Tigerlines Banned

    thank you , bull and terrier,...very good...what does PERFORMANCE TYPE mean to you?????.......
     
  5. Your welcome! It was in reference to "ten a penny like rats in a sewer"... always gives me a chuckle...

    Performance "type" generally means a more athletic body shape> longer legs, smaller chest and longer snout than the show staffs as exemplified by the crossgun dogs.

    As ever i know you consider performance type as something proven in the box which i would agree with! But thats more of a venue to "perform" and less a "performance looking type".
     
  6. Tigerlines

    Tigerlines Banned

    if you mean long legged, long muzzled ,tall athletic staffords....then yes these are ten a penny.............if your refering to WORKING DOGS......then i can assure you , their are plenty of small time doggers in the uk.......breeding dogs of TYPE.......breeding some of the best you will ever see........who you will never know about...
     
  7. ultimatek9

    ultimatek9 Top Dog



    Not sure of your location, but I have a friend in Florida that produces some nice SBT. I got my boy from her. His ancestors are conformation, obedience, tracking, weight pull, and flyball titled.
    This is Boom, my 6 month old pup.
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    Here he is at flyball training tonight.
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    Her website is www.freewebs.com/chulapit
    Her SBTs are from Inkwood Kennel and Tempest Kennel. She is considering doing a repeat/final breeding of Boom's parents later this year.
     
  8. nasher

    nasher Big Dog


    I must be in the wrong areas as I always see the hoods on the estates with the shorter stockier types or the mastiff mix not many taller types running 10 a penny around the streets for generations.
    and that is one of the largest council estates in europe
     
  9. Sasha's

    Sasha's Pup

    Nice post mate
     
  10. Tigerlines

    Tigerlines Banned

    nasher......thats a funny post:).....i would forget the HOODS IN COUNCIL ESTATES.....if the american bully was leagal ,.......the HOODS IN COUNCIL ESTATES would be the no.1 owner of this type.....but i know where you are coming from......the no.1 cross i have seen in these type of areas is the american bulldog x staff.......very large ,and normally called a pitbull x staff by your average glue sniffer.however ...in other areas , most noteably in the midlands,liverpool,areas in london and parts of yorkshire, the 'red nosed terrier' ...the 'american staff'....-the old tyme staff....the long legged staff...the irish staff...the athletic staff....the irish blue staff......the red nosed staff..ect,ect...have been advertised and sold to the general public as much as any show bred kc staff.....its like pre 36................you had better learn what your looking for with your own two eyes....or you will get burned real fast by a peddler...whether kc or not.
    in my own area ...within a radius of a mile ..... the long limbed, pit bull type is far more predominant , than the kc type.......and it is owned by far more types of people ,from white lads ....asian lads.......black lads....ect..........many gangs , with many connects all over the country...they are not fools when it comes to making money...and they see animals for a use......if they know of a small time dogger breeding good dogs of type......they steal the animals ....for you know what.
    remember in 1991 their was an estimated 10 - 20,000 pitbulls in the uk....and they werent here for conformation shows..lol
    and they werent all lead off to the dog pound.
    have a look at some of the breeding practices in the uk....where dogs have been bred for type.......it is very different to the mainstream american breeding practices of inbreeding off names, families,lines,papers ect...........many who breed dogs of TYPE ....are interested in the animal, not its breed , not its name, not its bloodline,not its potential......they breed like lurcher men........
    i remember the first time i saw a pitbull,...i owned a stafford from good kc lines ,and knew a guy from notts.....he also kept staffords, and was into field sports,..he was housing the pitbull for a few days....and had to keep his staffords out of the way...this animal was no joke.....it had no ears , and damaged lips ....it was operating on a different plane to a pet animal........it was all work, if you get my meaning.....it was nothing like the show types in build, or character..to me it was my first eye opener......it made me research everything i thought i knew about the history of these dogs, ..it was exactly like the dogs described by the old tymers in those early books on the stafford........now dogs are being solld left , right and center which could fall into the catagory of PITBULL TYPE......this fact is why the dangerous dogs act has become unenforceable, the police bare the brunt of the cost to enforce, and as it stands today in the uk ,that cost is too high due to the shear number of long limbed pitbull/staff types with unprovable ancestry.
     
  11. mixed-grill

    mixed-grill Big Dog

    :rolleyes:...Jesus 'tigerlines' you dont half jibber some rubbish...no one asked for your life story!:D
    "who you will never know about":rolleyes:...you just had to add that one...you got waay to much spare time
     
  12. Tigerlines

    Tigerlines Banned

    cheers mixed grill,....im in my kitchen cooking egg fried rice while typing this...its a beautifull day here in the uk..:)....i responded to the comments about long legged staffords in the uk......i stated my own personnal experience and understanding.......it obviously riled you why?????
    are you a breeder of kc dogs????
    are you a peddler of long limbed types?????
    do you have a problem with reading????
    why torture yourself by reading jibber jabber??????
    why respond to jibber jabber.......with your own jibber jabber??????
    you are funny.......and stupid........lol
     
  13. Tigerlines

    Tigerlines Banned

    and the comments about "you will never know"...were not directed at anyone in particular.....nor were they about any one in particular..........it was not an attempt to imply i know ...and you dont.....it was a statement of truth......heres another life story jibberish just for you mixed grill.....i was enquiring after a dog around 5 yrs ago , a friend of a friend....put me in contact with a man in burton....i had never heard of this man......and i had never seen this mans dogs before....he had produced a litter of small pitbulls that were serious animals....all smaller than a kc stafford.....these dogs were 1000 pounds each.......this man was not a peddler.....and i only knew of him through a friend of a friend.......i wasnt interested,and did not persue the matter further.....but it illistrates my point ...their are plenty of small time doggers who are producing top class animals who you will never know about.........i hope this post pisses you off even more mixed grill....
     
  14. Tigerlines

    Tigerlines Banned

    mixed grill....... i get it ....i understand why you have jumped on your pc ...to waste your own valuable time..lol...very funny .....you own A REAL STAFFORD..LOL
    dont tell me its one of those OLD TIME TYPES....LOL
    a REAL one ...LOL
    all tall and long limbed...lol
    fit for purpose..lol
    bred true to type...lol
    i bet you are a real dog man...LOL
    i bet you know the history and pedigree of your REAL old time type...LOL
    i bet your REAL one comes from a line of REAL proven types...LOL
    are you selling pupies and pedigrees??????????????????????????????
    your a fake and a joke MIXED GRILL ......AND YOUR DOGS ARE LIKE YOUR NAME ....A MIXED GRILL.........NOW GO FIND SOME OTHER GULLIBLE FOOL TO TALK FAKE STAFFORDS WITH.....OR GO JOIN THE IKC .......AND PEDDLE YOUR BULLSHIT WITH LIKE MINDED FANTASISTS.......i dont breed dogs......i dont sell dogs ......i dont own dogs.......and im not after any one elses dogs.............toodle oo
     
  15. nasher

    nasher Big Dog

    where im based the youngsters have gone from the types you mention and are into bull greys/lurchers as they use them for sporting purposes namely cats and the odd fox.
    as for long limbed staffords are we saying they are all from dubious breedings? as im sure you are aware that there are genuine taller staffords .
     
  16. nasher

    nasher Big Dog

    not being funny tigerlines i know mixed grill and he does own real staffords from proven types he does not sell or peddle puppies or has anything to do with the ikc I dont think you know his dogs either maybe pm him if you are getting frustrated and sort it out man to man if you dont own dogs are you one of these haters that like shit stirring???
     
  17. Tigerlines

    Tigerlines Banned

    nasher ...thats funny "sporting purposes namely cats and foxs"...lol......thats good:D
    what GENUINE taller staffords would you be refering to..?
    just out of interest, how tall do you mean..?
    and were are these dogs registered...?
     
  18. Tigerlines

    Tigerlines Banned

    no nasher .....i only wish to wind him up...i couldnt care less how real or fake his dogs are..........and it would have stayed that way , but something in my post must have made him jump on his pc to respond to a post i made towards you....maybe he likes to play the dog man online with his real proven dogs....real STAFFORDS...or may be he thinks that my post was implying that I AM A REAL DOG MAN..lol........he got all jealous,...felt the need to reply directly to me with STUPIDNESS.....so i give back in kind.....and no I DO NOT OWN DOGS.....AND HAVE NO INTEREST IN ANY ONE ELSES EITHER.......and finally your good friend could have followed your own advice and pmd me.....so who is shit stirring?????????????????
     
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  19. nasher

    nasher Big Dog

    as for the cats that is true they have sent the old bill and rspca onto the estate to take pics of these dogs so that witnesses can identify them also the crafty gits held a free pet check day at the local community centre, and free chipping so they could have a nose.

    around 18/20 inch mark sparpit dogs kc registered
     
  20. 12 gauge

    12 gauge CH Dog

    nice to see a nice dog from showstock doing something and not just posing pretty for pics. don't take this in a bad way but if i were you i'd let the lil' guy be a pup until he is 1 1/2 year or 2 or whatever age his line or blood usually matures, feed him what he's suppose to get and dont strip him that much. a lot of us love to see our dogs in a good nick but there'll be time for that, keep the pics coming
     

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