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Lincoln the Pit Bull

Discussion in 'Introductions' started by BullyBreedBlogge, Jan 30, 2012.

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  1. Hey guys, I'm Drew the owner of 15-week-old Lincoln the Pit Bull. Lincoln is great, he was a surprise Christmas present(kinda) and has been doing very well, so far the most impressive Pit I have owned.

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    He is my 5th Pit Bull so far.

    These are my other 2 Pit Bulls, Dominoe and Dakota.

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    We are happy to be here and look forward to making some friends and contributing to the community.

    I also run a new but expanding Pit Bull advocacy website called The Bully Breed Blog which you should definitely check out sometime! ;)
     
  2. While I'm sure you're trying to do good, you should educate yourself before spreading ignorance. Some of the silly shit you have posted in your blog/site is just plain wrong. You're not doing any good setting people up for failure.
     
  3. davidfitness83

    davidfitness83 Top Dog

    "As a socialization rule, try to introduce your puppy to 100 different dogs before 4 months of age.
    Make sure you dog meets a wide variety of dogs; skinny, fat, big, small, short, tall and all kinds of colors.
    Neutering your male will definitely help, Spaying your female usually does."

    How can your dog meet 100 dogs when most dogs aren't done with their shots by 4 months of age? I disagree that your puppy should be introduced to strange adult dogs that's a recipe for your dog to get his ass whooped and neutering doesn't do squat if your dog is hot there is nothing you can do to change that.
     
  4. sadieblues

    sadieblues CH Dog

    Right on! I only glanced at the site all I had to see was preventing a pit bull from becoming dog aggressive and I closed out my browser to the site. If you knew anything about this breeds genetics you would know that there is no preventing DA in this breed. You work to control and maintain DA in this breed by utilizing common sense and taking preventative measures. All that other stupid shit is just a bunch of fabricated fairy tales used to impress the public with a pretty picture about a breed whose past is far from pretty. People appreciate honesty and responsible ownership more than they do pretty fairytales covering up the breeds past by trying to make them fit into a society as an all around friendly dog breed does nothing but hurt the breed even more. Accept the breed for what it is and care for them accordingly. If you don't understand the truth about these dogs best to take a seat in the back row as a student and let those teachers who do understand this breed teach others. I am sure your intentions are good but good intentions don't always pave a positive outcome. Welcome to the forum ...
     
  5. popow

    popow Pup

    You do know this is not a bully site!!!
     
  6. What a warm welcome!
    Okay, Sadie I definitely understand your point about Pit Bull genetics, BUT by that logic should I stop trying to socialize my dog? See this is the problem with your point is that it is lazy-logic. I wouldn't stop socializing Pit Bulls because their past is "far from pretty". I am not sure what your point is, but you sound like you would rather just resign to Pit Bulls being DA and that is that. Sorry, but I will do everything I can to make sure my dog gets along with other dogs.
    Sadie, I would conclude that your logic is not just dangerous but also unfair to Pit Bull dogs that without using socializing steps like ones I had outlined, would probably not be able to play with other dogs.

    David, I am not sure where you came up with that but man, that is some scary thinking. Who said the 100 dogs have to be puppies? Wow!
    And the other half of your wild idea assumes that every adult dog is dog-aggressive!!!

    I am starting to think I may have stumbled upon a dog-fighting forum. Seems most of you don't want dogs to be socialized. And yea, I will shut down my site because some incredulous people on a forum think socializing a Pit Bull is a stupid idea? Yikes.

    To me, it looks like you guys have 0 clue what your talking about. ZERO, seriously. I am not mad at ya, but clearly we do things differently. I will agree to disagree, and ask you just don't follow me around with your nonsense.
     
  7. gh32

    gh32 CH Dog

    i checked out that blog of yours and while people like you think you doing good,you killing the breed by telling people to go out and socialize and love the DA out of them.Then when it don't work another black eye for the breed. These dogs were bred for what they were bred for and just accept it.It's not being lazy,it's called intelligent pet ownership.You can train your dog to be housebroken,play fetch whatever but DA is in the genetic makeup of these dogs.Pick a pet that suits what you want,don't pick a pet because it's the cool one to have and try and change it.It seldom works.Me and David RARELY agree,but we do in this case.I don't won't my puppies socializing with anything because all you get by dragging them around is disease and parasites. You have absolutely not stumbled onto a dog fighting site,you have stumbled onto a game dog site where where like the APBT in it's original form and you're welcome to leave if you don't like it. It's your 5th APBT and most likely it's a bully at that and not a real one.There's several people here who have had far more experience than you for you to tell anyone they have no clue. I realize you think you doing good,but these dogs are dog aggressive by nature and it's super easy to deal with,keep them away from other dogs. Does it get any easier,really. That's the problem,getting a APBT and wanting them to interact with other dogs is like getting a cat and wanting to have it interact with mice.But yet so many ignorant,uninformed people insist on doing it.
     
  8. 6sN7s

    6sN7s Top Dog

    was going to type a positive piece of text, but no

    respect to the mentaly strong who're still going to put work in making you understand, lol
     
  9. sadieblues

    sadieblues CH Dog

    Well here is my input on socialization for APBT's you want to socialize your dogs do it as pups after they have had ALL their shots on a leash in a controlled enviorment preferably with dog's in your own home. I have 4 APBT's none of which have ever been around any dogs outside the ones in my home 2 of them are pup's the other 2 are adults. I allow all of my dog's to interact under my supervision knowing that I may have to break up a fight and the more they mature the more likely it will be that these dogs will all have to separated. I have 4 bulldogs and 4 crates I do not allow these dogs to EVER be left alone for any period of time unattended. When I take my dogs outside they are always on a leash and under my control at all times. I do not punish my dogs for barking at other dogs on walks I try to divert their attention away from them as quickly as possible. I understand I own a gladiator breed I knew that before I took them on so I do not expect my dogs to happily co exist with the rest of the animals on the planet. What I do with my dogs in my own home is my business but I don't ever want to give off the impression to the general public that these dogs are sweet and friendly with other dogs because it's just not true. My dog's genetics is backed up by years of blood sport DA is bred into my dogs and I fully respect that and the men who created these dogs. Dog Aggression is a small price to pay for owning such a loyal human friendly breed that will do ANYTHING for their owner. And in return to strive to be happy all these dogs need is their owner's companionship in return they do not need other dog friends. Once people start respecting the breeds history and the genetic makeup of these dogs the better off the breed will be. Lying to the public about how wonderful the breed is with other dogs is they are quote on quote " Raised Right" only makes us responsible dog folks look like fools when another pit bull kills someone's innocent dog at one of these dog parks.
     
  10. sadieblues

    sadieblues CH Dog

    Oh FYI I hardly fight my dogs and all 4 of them are well cared for they play together on my time clock in my home when I allow them to and this probably won't last much longer but I have given my dogs socialization with the dogs in my house not out in public around strange animals. I realize that I am on borrowed time but I am prepared to break up fights and crate and rotate if and when needed I understand the risks involved here and am not living in la la land you shouldn't either.

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  11. davidfitness83

    davidfitness83 Top Dog

    My adult male is an intact(that means not neutered by the way lol ) 3 year old Canine Good Citizen and he lives with 2 ankle biters and 3 cats. He has also attended two advanced obedience class in one of the best schools in the country which happened to have one of the top dogs in the USA that went over to Crufts to compete in obedience in Europe two years ago. I bet you I have more control of my dog more respect and loyalty out of my dog than you have with any of yours because I understand its instincts. I would never put my dog in a situation where it can get in trouble even though he is so confident and obedient. So I think your little blog idea is just a collection of thoughts you gathered by reading Google, Wikipedia and watching too many episodes of the dog whisperer which will set up any bull breed owner for failure.

    Just for your information my dog has he ever displayed an ounce of aggression or resource guarding behavior with anyone or any animal of the house. However, I understand that while my dog may be a super watered down I cannot trust the dog to take abuse or a challenge from another dog/animal in the street. I would never take the dog to a dog park or let it meet strange dogs while on walks, there are way too many clueless people out there that think they know their dogs until it's too late. I've had many dogs charging at me and my dog during our walks and guess what? My dog is leashed and we are following the law but if one of those fluffy dogs gets close enough to my dog and challenge and my dog defends it self which dog do you think it will get put down? Not the fluffy rude, unexercised dog that broke out of the house charging aggressively at my dog. My dog will be euthanized no questions asked, so I have to bend down and pick up 80 pounds of dog and scoop him over my shoulder and start screaming until the owners come get their loose dogs. When people like you make up these fictitious claims about how to magically change a breed's hardwired instincts is when we have 5'oclock news incidents, or dogs being put down from attacks in dog parks and states or countries trying to ban these dogs. Sad part is that someone else that has no clue will read your blog and get infected with your ignorance and try to play the magic dog trainer with their pit bull.
     
  12. BBT

    BBT Big Dog

    Guys this guys does not own and never did own an APBT. He has bully mixes. He also does not understand the true working APBT or a site like this. I think it's great what he does with his dogs on his time but that does not mean he belongs here. Let him continue to work with rescue dogs and hiking group.
    Once again I think that half steppers that have access to this site will only hurt the breed. They just don't know enough and believe too much that is based off of too little.
     
  13. davidfitness83

    davidfitness83 Top Dog

    Shit I own a Bully that's cold as ICE and I would never trust it no matter what.. lol
     
  14. Mr.Revolution

    Mr.Revolution CH Dog

    at least he neutering and recommending neutering for them mutts is all i can say
     
  15. hardluck

    hardluck Banned

    there is nothing wrong with socialization, but why socialize your dog with every single dog you come across? the only dogs you should care about are the dogs you already have. socilization should only be amongst those dogs, if you can get it to work. GH32 said it correct " That's the problem,getting a APBT and wanting them to interact with other dogs is like getting a cat and wanting to have it interact with mice" a wonderful statement. your wishing on pipe dreams, or else your watching too much cesar milan and want your dog to be just like his fake APBT. yes that dog i think its name is daddy is not a APBT. dont be afraid of the history of the breed it will make you a better responsible owner.
     
  16. hardluck

    hardluck Banned

    and nice dog you have too
     
  17. sadieblues

    sadieblues CH Dog

    When it comes down to BSL/ the General Public it doesn't matter if it's and APBT or an American Bully or just some random mutt if it looks like a pit bull then that's what it will get labeled it's not right but that is the way it is. Singling out pet owners from proper breed education doesn't work. Trust me I understand your frustration with the pet bull mentality but that doesn't mean these people can't be taught. I am willing to help anyone who is willing to listen. I didn't always have the right idea about the breed but certain people were willing to help me and I learned a great deal from them. Not all pet bull people are a dead end. And in the end the pet people will fight for their mutt's/bullies just as hard as the APBT people will. This might be a working dog site but that shouldn't mean we should send pet people away hell even the bully people as long as they aren't passing off their bullies as APBT's I am ok with them. I respect anyone who wants to be here and learn. That's my JMO
     
  18. sadieblues

    sadieblues CH Dog

    Also I have seen some DA American Bullies they are not all dog friendly remember those dog's were mixed with APBT blood at some point it doesn't make them APBT's but if any of those dog's have a drop of APBT blood in them then they possibility for DA to exist in those dogs is there. So if I did own an American Bully I sure as hell wouldn't be taking it to no dog park.
     
  19. BBT

    BBT Big Dog

    Sadie I understand exactly what you are saying. All I am saying is that some people only know this breed as a mixed breed pet and have no understanding of what a true working dog is of any breed or have any inclination to learn about working dogs. These same people only understand pets.
    And this guy above has mixed breed bully pets.. He has seen game bred dogs and doesnt even know it. He very well could have had his dogs next to a pure APBT from working stock and would not have known it yet the dog could have been the better behaved dog while still being hot and he would not be able to know why.
    He only understands them as pets and that is what makes him an expert. I am sure you will agree that most pet owners who see a working yard do not understand and are quick to judge negatively. They judge against a pet standard..
    This guy does great things or is part of a group that does great things for pets. God Bless them.
    All that I am saying are two things
    1) that when you judge a working dog against a pet standard that the working dog will not be judged fairly
    2) most pet owners don't care to learn, appreciate, understand, and/or are NOT OPEN to understand how some domesticated animals are not pets.
     
  20. sadieblues

    sadieblues CH Dog

    Your right about that BBT and I do understand and agree with you on where you are coming from. Like I said I get frustrated too with that mentality I come from a forum with nothing but pet owners/rescue people there are few working dog lovers and most of the time I find myself defending the history of our breed and why we even have these dogs to begin with. So the first thing those type of owners do when they see a dog on a chain is automatically assume that these people are dog fighters ect ect. I know these people are very misguided and a lot of them are stuck in their ways but not all of them are close minded and I try to keep that in mind when dealing with these types of owners. Some will learn and most probably won't. I know most people shouldn't even own this breed but because of the popularity rise these dogs are everywhere even with people that shouldn't own them so I try to help educate everyone hoping that if I can reach just one person that's one less uneducated breed owner in the world. Even if someone is willing to listen we can at least get the message across wether they will take heed or not is something else they are not our problem when something happens we told them so. But we as a community can at least made the effort and that makes me feel like I have done my job at the end of the day if that makes any sense LOL.
     
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