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Kennel and Dog House set up

Discussion in 'Dog Discussion' started by BoogiemanBlood, Dec 26, 2010.

  1. treezpitz

    treezpitz CH Dog Staff Member

    lol IDK, she might have. Maybe I'm wrong lol either way, it's not hard or expensive is the point you were making and you're absolutely right.
     
  2. Beatrix Kiddo

    Beatrix Kiddo Top Dog

    yea my bad i meant just in labor. I've never just picked someone up from home depot to do some labor for me, not sure on the going rate. i was trying to be funny more than serious
     
  3. treezpitz

    treezpitz CH Dog Staff Member

    Well, if they're the same ones at our HD, slow down but don't stop and they'll just hop in and you can work out price once you get to job site lol.
     
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  4. Laced Wit Game

    Laced Wit Game Yard Boy

    give em $10 B... then call the migra when your done..... LOL
     
  5. Beatrix Kiddo

    Beatrix Kiddo Top Dog

    poor guys standing around in the heat all day for the off chance they may get some work... i'd hook em up.
     
  6. costly, but comes 90% preassembled according to them

    Dog Den 2..... by K-9 Kondo
     
  7. ^ That K-9 condo is nice. Thanks guys.
     
  8. Tiznow

    Tiznow Big Dog

    Gosh, I didn't read all this except for the first few pages...but I wanted to emphasize the point that was made earlier (back in 2012).

    People seem to think chain-link is chain-link! There is SO much difference in it. Go to the fence companies and compare the gauges and link size. Too many people get these cheap panels at the home supply or feed stores and they are WORTHLESS for anything bigger than a Chihuahua. A good wind will tear them up! It's SO important to spend the money and get GOOD chain link (11 g is TOO BIG I agree -- 2 1/2" link is TO0 BIG.). Once a dog gets out of an improper chain-link kennel, they will keep trying. You have to start with a proper set-up and it's GOING to cost you!

    I LIKE chain-link. I bought proper 10' panels years ago and have had them (hauled them everywhere I moved to over the years) for 25 years. I bought them from a fence company and picked them up from private sellers over the years. Best investment I ever made.
     
  9. ELIAS'PISTOLA

    ELIAS'PISTOLA CH Dog

    As beautiful setup as you can get,nice...
    We have tethering & bsl regulations in some areas we keep our dogs,your set up is what they want to see with a cement pad,heavy panels and a roof.We fought to use cattle panels instead of cement for an assortment of reasons and they finally allowed it.Our complaints were backed by a veternary and are as follows.Hard on dogs joints,too hot or cold,takes alot more to sanitize it,not to mention cost.Luckily ac sided with us and let us suppliment cement with cattle pannels as a floor and roof.
    Another thing we changed was building heavy duty,chew proof houses that we bolt with heavy lags to the outside of the kennel.This gives them less corners to chew on and more over all sq ft.We use metal angle iron on the inside of the door opening to both the breezeway and the sleeping quarters to also help prevent chewing...
    A good chain setup is priceless,easy to clean and feed/water.A big kennel set up is expensive,takes alot of time opening closing doors not to mention an occasional ecscape if your not on top of it.Too clean shit and urine is almost impossible with out some good disenfectant and a good power sprayer.It becomes alot of time, work and money.
    Plus its hard to have someone else take care of them if you go out of town as my good friend wife is figuring out,she has about 30 bullies in kennels on cement.Id rather spend all that wasted time walking dogs and all that wasted money on better over all husbandry to nurture the athlete.Instead we imprison them in small quarters ,CELL BLOCK 6 LIGHTS OUT....
     
  10. ELIAS'PISTOLA

    ELIAS'PISTOLA CH Dog

    Sorry,didnt notice you put the house on the outside also,any current pics???
     
  11. treezpitz

    treezpitz CH Dog Staff Member

    "A good chain setup is priceless,easy to clean and feed/water.A big kennel set up is expensive,takes alot of time opening closing doors not to mention an occasional ecscape if your not on top of it.Too clean shit and urine is almost impossible with out some good disenfectant and a good power sprayer.It becomes alot of time, work and money."



    Good post overall EP!

    Also, another reason why I prefer chains over kennels is the obvious fact that a chain dog would usually get more personal attention/affection than a kennel dog. Usually, the most a kennel dog gets is a couple fingers stuck through a opening in the panels but chain dogs can easily get a pat on the head as you walk through the yard.
     
  12. SENIOR DRAGON

    SENIOR DRAGON Big Dog

  13. Tiznow

    Tiznow Big Dog

    I think both can be bad for personal attention/affection. Yes, kennel dogs get fingers stuck through the fence; and chained dogs are often so hyped, a person doesn't get close! You've seen the pics of chain dogs straining towards a person who stands just out of reach in order not to get jumped on. The look on the faces of these dogs......

    ALL of them, kenneled or otherwise, should have free time every day out of the kennel or off the chain. They ALL yearn for and deserve that.
     
  14. treezpitz

    treezpitz CH Dog Staff Member

    "and chained dogs are often so hyped, a person doesn't get close!"



    Speak for yourself. My "chain dogs" get attention all throughout the day. They also have time off of their chain.
     
  15. Saiyagin

    Saiyagin Chihuahua Premium Member

    First off let me just say that the amount of attention a dog gets is not because of ones containment method thats just a EXCUSE some owners like to use instead of blaming themselves as to why there dogs aint getting enough attention LOL.

    With that said, like I said before the most securest containment method is a properly made chain set up. Not only is it the most securest set up but its way cheaper then a good quality kennel set up.

    For a kennel set up the chain link gauge should be 9 or lower and even at 9 gauge a dog that constantly chews on that same spot can eventually wear it down. At the lower but stronger gauges like 6 the holes are much smaller so its harder for a dog to chew on but its cost is very expensive. The top and bottom of the kennels should also be enclosed as some dogs can climb and some dogs like to dig so I recommend chain link on the top and cement tile blocks or caps on the bottom. And even after all that is done a dog can still escape from the kennel when you open the door when cleaning or feeding UNLESS you make a double entrance with 2 doors but that is an EXTRA cost of money but its worth the extra security to prevent a sneeky dog from bolting out and escaping when you open the door. Also there is some dogs that are smart enough to know how to lift the door latch up so make sure you put some kind of pin in it to prevent this from happening. Even the best good quality kennel set up can have accidents due to the human errors involved like forgetting to close the door or forgetting to put the pin the door latch etc....but with a chain the dog is only coming off if the owner wants to take him off so there are no accidents due to human error....now worn down chain set ups can break if not checked on for a really long while same with a kennel due to wear and tare so always make sure to check hard ware.

    A good chain set up cost around $50.00-$100.00 per set up depending on length etc...while a good kennel set up can cost you around $500.00-$1000.00 and up depending on size and gauge. Not only is the chain set up way cheaper but its still more secure.

    Also about this Anti-Tethering law the main reason why it was started is not because of all the BULLSHIT excuses the AR activist groups like to use like oh it makes the dog mean/aggressive or more territorial etc...It was started to deter dogmen from owning a lot of dogs due to the expensive and costly form of containment.
     
  16. TDK

    TDK CH Dog Staff Member

    When I first saw SENIOR DRAGON'S pics of his yard I was HIGHLY impressed. I still am, of course. What appeared clearly was that there are different forms of excellence as to a yard set up. It's obvious that one who lives in close proximity to others has different needs for space and class features, cleanliness and beauty of layout than one who lives, as do I, in the middle of nowhere.

    I find his domain to not only be ingenious in set up, but to be a shining example of how we CAN keep our dogs, even if not out in the great remote.

    On the other hand, I try to keep my yard as that of a park. Trimmed, neat, sanitary, many trees, proper drainage, free of debris from weather, and something any couple just might like to hold hands and stroll through on a Summer night or Spring day.

    I find the need for all facilities, even in the country. I like my chain areas to be neat and uniform. Everyone has the same house type and water vats. Even feed pans. I have a whelp bungalow with heat and air. I have a mama chain just outside for their timely constitution every so often as needed. It's an in and out affair.

    I have a kennel barn. Kennels IN the barn. All organized and clean. I have elevated keeps. They are used for any dog not feeling up to snuff, or whelping, as there is a whelping caboose at the rear of each. I have electricity running to them and from them. All recepticals. Both my barns (The kennel barn and my dog barn) have cement flooring for better cleanliness and upkeep.

    In my experience, I find Saiyagin to be totally correct in saying that for the amount of expense and work, a clean and neat, and safe chain set up is the best way of keeping a dog or dogs. But I find the need for all facets of housing and care facilities to be necessary, also. Even out in the country.

    My point is to say that we all have different situations which require different modes of upkeep and facilitation. And that while some may have the luxury of space and the ability to make their yard look beautifully groomed and kept by way of the space and serenity of the country setting, and others the ingenuity shown by SENIOR DRAGON and his set up. It all just means that whatever your situation, a set up such as SENIOR DRAGON'S shows we can all strive, use our ingenuity, and have a class and beautiful set up to represent our dogs, the way he has.

    1311111447.jpg Photo by danlee123456 | Photobucket

    1311111447.jpg Photo by danlee123456 | Photobucket

    Just a couple of pics of what I feel is a pretty fair ol' country yard belonging and kept by a friend of mine up North.
     
  17. treezpitz

    treezpitz CH Dog Staff Member

    Nice, clean looking yard there in those pics TDK. Both were the same pics, in case you didn't realize it.

    Also, sounds like you have a first class setup there TDK. I'd love to be setup like that one day.
     
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  18. treezpitz

    treezpitz CH Dog Staff Member

    Saiy, I agree that somebody could open each kennel door and pat the head on each dog if they wanted to but that's my exact point, most would not. They'd stick their hands through the kennel and keep it pushing. But one could easily walk down a line of 20 dogs and give a couple pats on each dogs head in a real quick manner. So, IMO, the dogs (in general) get more attention on the chain, in similar circumstances. I do agree in the ideal yard that somebody would have both kennels and chain setups.
     
  19. TDK

    TDK CH Dog Staff Member

  20. treezpitz

    treezpitz CH Dog Staff Member

    Your friend has a very nice setup, T. Anyone maintaining a place like that should be proud. NP on the heads up.
     

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